Networking Group - JCs General
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akckk:
Interesting. My A-Level subject combi is a result of interest vs necessity. Interest is computer science. Necessity to me means physics because I don't see life beyond physics. I felt that it is more important to go for something that interests me rather than things that everyone would have gone for. Had Further Math for the 1st 3 months (while waiting for o-level results) but found it tough so I dropped it.am y4 this year in an ip secondary school and currently deciding on jc subj combi!
am debating between these
1. h1 math vs h2 math
2. pcme vs cmeg
my math is pretty weak and didn't do well in math throughout secondary school, math teacher told me to take h1. many of my friends are suggesting to me to try h2 for a year then drop if i really can't manage, but i myself am not even sure if i can do well in h2 math even if i work harder in the subject next year
i understand that h2 math is important but i feel taking h1 will guarantee me a better grade throughout jc and ultimately at As (i have no plans going for engineering)
basically physics vs geog, science stream vs hybrid. my geog has always been stronger than physics and i definitely prefer geog more, but would taking cmeg + h1 math narrow down my university choices by a lot? heard from seniors in jc that physics is really tough there and a number of them are going to drop physics from h2 to h1 the next year.
generally my ideal would be cmeg + h1 math but i am pretty worried where that subject combi would eventually lead me to! like university and career choices :(( any thoughts?
So the most important question to ask is if you would like the combi. -
floppy:
Thanks Floppy. Yes but I have heard some applied in J1, defer one more after that one year, I hope we could do that.Song22:
Hi there, I wonder if boys could apply for UK unis in J2 or could they only apply in their first year of NS? I have heard that some boys applied during their J2 but some uk unis state that their deferment is one year. I think it is great if they could apply in J2 so as to get it done before they go NS. Thank you!
Depends on uni policy.
Those that accept deferment up to one year - apply during NS.
Those that accept deferment up to two years - apply in J2. -
ilovelaksa:
Quite true
This is not true for VJC. The IP students are very good in critical thinking. But when it comes to content, drilling subjects, the O levellers are better, they know how to score.zbear:
I have 2 children who graduated from JC - one is from IP, the other is from JAE.
Speaking from my experience only (others may think differently), there is a marked difference in the academic calibe of both IP and JAE and it shows at JC level. JAE students need a lot of hardwork, determination and peservance to catch up with IP students. -
slmkhoo:
Actually it may be quite true. My dd's JC math teacher said that students who take H1 Math from the beginning tend to do better in it than students who drop H2 Math to do H1 Math after JC1.
I agree with jtoh. If you've always been weaker at Maths and don't think you can do well in H2, then it probably wasting time to try, then drop to H1. My older girl was making the same decision a few years ago, and we encouraged her to take H1 Maths and work harder on her H2s (you only need 3 H2s for university entry). Also, if your Maths is weak, you are unlikely to do well in Physics, so Geog is a better choice in terms of grades.
For career, you are unlikely to want a career that requires the subjects you are weak in (ie Physics and Maths), so don't worry about it. With a combination like CEG + H1 maths, there are many things you can do. -
NotEducatedMan:
Quite true[/quote]From what my dd1 had gone thru this year (she is in jc1 now), it does not seem so. My girl isnt very sociable to know the happening in school but her jae classmates told her apparently the 75 rank pts n above for mye results were dominated by ip students and looks like it is going to be same for promo as school will only release ranking after pw op. Content based subject like econs needs evaluation skills and in her school most top scorers for econs are also good in gp which again are dominated by ip students. My dd2 is in o level track n wants to follow her sis to go jc next time, so i m not sure how well she can cope next time as from what i can see, there is a gap judging from the comparison in jc1 results but i am not sure if it happens in all ipjc.
This is not true for VJC. The IP students are very good in critical thinking. But when it comes to content, drilling subjects, the O levellers are better, they know how to score.ilovelaksa:
[quote=\"zbear\"]I have 2 children who graduated from JC - one is from IP, the other is from JAE.
Speaking from my experience only (others may think differently), there is a marked difference in the academic calibe of both IP and JAE and it shows at JC level. JAE students need a lot of hardwork, determination and peservance to catch up with IP students. -
snowyqueen:
From what my dd1 had gone thru this year (she is in jc1 now), it does not seem so. My girl isnt very sociable to know the happening in school but her jae classmates told her apparently the 75 rank pts n above for mye results were dominated by ip students and looks like it is going to be same for promo as school will only release ranking after pw op. Content based subject like econs needs evaluation skills and in her school most top scorers for econs are also good in gp which again are dominated by ip students. My dd2 is in o level track n wants to follow her sis to go jc next time, so i m not sure how well she can cope next time as from what i can see, there is a gap judging from the comparison in jc1 results but i am not sure if it happens in all ipjc.
Just as in any bunch of students, some will be more able and willing to mug and drill when it counts, and some will not (either they refuse to, or somehow just can't focus enough, or whatever). IP students may have had less drilling in the earlier years, but it doesn't mean they can't when they need to. My younger daughter was in an IP school and enjoyed the \"less drilling\" atmosphere up to Y4, but she and many of her schoolmates got down to the mugging and drilling in the JC years, just like every other JC student. The ability to mug and drill is more dependent on willingness than skill; students don't need to be \"trained\" from early years.
Of course, there will be some IP students who are less strong academically, less willing or able to mug and drill, or just don't perform as well for a multitude of reasons. Similarly, there are non-IP students who are academically able, hardworking etc etc, and they can do as well as the best IP students. It doesn't mean that a student in the O level track will necessarily do worse than an IP student. Things are never as clear cut as that. But given that, in general, the more able students go into IP, it's not surprising that IP students generally do better than JAE students, but there is a mixture throughout the range. -
NotEducatedMan:
Quite true[/quote]
This is not true for VJC. The IP students are very good in critical thinking. But when it comes to content, drilling subjects, the O levellers are better, they know how to score.ilovelaksa:
[quote=\"zbear\"]I have 2 children who graduated from JC - one is from IP, the other is from JAE.
Speaking from my experience only (others may think differently), there is a marked difference in the academic calibe of both IP and JAE and it shows at JC level. JAE students need a lot of hardwork, determination and peservance to catch up with IP students.snowyqueen:
What I actually mean is that, provided the JAE student work hard, they should be able to keep up with their IP classmates.From what my dd1 had gone thru this year (she is in jc1 now), it does not seem so. My girl isnt very sociable to know the happening in school but her jae classmates told her apparently the 75 rank pts n above for mye results were dominated by ip students and looks like it is going to be same for promo as school will only release ranking after pw op. Content based subject like econs needs evaluation skills and in her school most top scorers for econs are also good in gp which again are dominated by ip students. My dd2 is in o level track n wants to follow her sis to go jc next time, so i m not sure how well she can cope next time as from what i can see, there is a gap judging from the comparison in jc1 results but i am not sure if it happens in all ipjc.
Is hard (no point) to judge the academic caliber or performance between both IP and JAE students by simply based on 75 rank pts & above \"were dominated by IP students\".
Just an example only:
In the first place. if based on IP, this group already considered as top 10%.
So eventhough they have skipped the O level exam. I assume they already belonging to the group of \"Raw scorers of 6-8 points for L1R5\" (let's say)
Whereas those coming from JAE, (let's say) mainly with an \"average Raw score of between 9-11 points\". And in fact majority of JAE students depend on 2-3 points deduction from their bonus points to be eligible to enter to a particular IP JC with a cut-off-points of 8.
On top of that, an IP JC has more IP students than JAE students. -
Hello, just curious, anyone knows the retaining rate for the various schools this year?
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genevaong:
Hello, just curious, anyone knows the retaining rate for the various schools this year?
Will only kn after retake papers in Jan 2019 -
Hello all, I would like to seek some advice from all of you.
My child entered a merged college last year and she was retained, therefore she has to repeat her JC1 this year.
She was a member of the Students' Council, and now that she is being retained, she has to leave her CCA as policy is that Students' Council cannot have any retainees. She is rather upset about this as she has sentiments towards Council and she is passionate and loves what she does there.
I would like to ask, whether there is any possibility for her to be able to appeal to the new principal and school management for her to remain in Students' Council? I know it has always been a policy for retainees to leave Council, but is there any possibilities for her to still remain in Council?
Please advise, thank you
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