Networking Group - JCs General

[Parent]

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In my DD's school, no one scored A1 for Higher Chinese for the recent GCE O Levels.

This is very surprising becos there are students who are very academically inclined and some have shown consistent strength in the subject over the 4 years in secondary school.

I wonder how other secondary schools perform in this subject. Or did MOE raised the standard or the school is just unlucky where their students exam papers were marked by an unusually strict examiner/marker?

The distinction for HCL in my DS school is 29.6%. Considering that he is from a SAP school with strong Chinese culture.. this is quite low.. but to be fair.. with 8-9 subjects to manage and knowing that C6 will get you the 2 bonus points.. how many kids will aim for A1? My DS got C6 and he is happy that he got his 2 bonus points..

May I know the distinction you are referring to is A1 or A1 and A2?

By the way, there are students motivated enough to aim for better grades than a low pass for the 2 bonus points.

[hnghng]

My DS got L1R5 11 - 2 point = 9.

Is’t safe to put SAJC as 1st choice?
Thanks.

[lag]

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lag\" post_id=\"1959137\" time=\"1579060591\" user_id=\"47694:

[quote=Parent post_id=1959088 time=1579052209 user_id=2348]In my DD's school, no one scored A1 for Higher Chinese for the recent GCE O Levels.

This is very surprising becos there are students who are very academically inclined and some have shown consistent strength in the subject over the 4 years in secondary school.

I wonder how other secondary schools perform in this subject. Or did MOE raised the standard or the school is just unlucky where their students exam papers were marked by an unusually strict examiner/marker?

The distinction for HCL in my DS school is 29.6%. Considering that he is from a SAP school with strong Chinese culture.. this is quite low.. but to be fair.. with 8-9 subjects to manage and knowing that C6 will get you the 2 bonus points.. how many kids will aim for A1? My DS got C6 and he is happy that he got his 2 bonus points..

May I know the distinction you are referring to is A1 or A1 and A2?

By the way, there are students motivated enough to aim for better grades than a low pass for the 2 bonus points.[/quote]Distinction refers to A1 and A2.

[MMM]

Promotion criteria in JC might be another consideration for parents.


This is probably child dependent. Doing well in O levels does not necessarily equate to them doing well at JC1. Some JCs might be known to have tougher promotion criteria vs others. So to us, that is a consideration too in JC choice.

[floppy]

Careermum\" post_id=\"1959132\" time=\"1579059932\" user_id=\"22005:

Parent\" post_id=\"1959118\" time=\"1579056856\" user_id=\"2348:

[quote=MyPillow post_id=1958910 time=1578971057 user_id=70594]How does the JC allocation system work
Allocate students by pts only or choice matters ?
what if two kid got 7 pts (after minus 2 bonus) who will got in first OR lucky draw?

Thanks!

Allocation by:
1. Nett points
2. If there is a tie, Singaporeans come first followed by PR and then foreign students
3. If 2 Singapore students are tied, the one with better raw points will get in first.
4. If there is still a tie, then ballot

For Allocation by:
1. Nett points

Is it all the 7-2 get in 1st, then the 9-4 get in, until the very last vacancy with a tie?[/quote]Based on net score, there’s no difference between 7-2 or 9-4. Both are treated as 5 pointers. However, if 5 is the COP, ie the last place, and both are SC, then the student with raw 7 will get the place first.

[ynwa9]

It is very clearly stated in the JAE admission booklet that the admission criteria are net L1R5, citizenship, gross L1R5. If still tied, it says that there will be a computerized ballot with EQUAL CHANCE given to candidates. No where does it mention that the order in which the JC was selected matter. So it means that if two students have identical nett and gross scores apply and both are citizens, it theoretically should not matter if the student put the JC as 1st choice or 3rd choice? Can someone shed some light on this because I keep hearing people say that that is not the case and that the student who put the JC as 1st choice would be given priority.

[stetan]

ynwa9\" post_id=\"1959210\" time=\"1579073907\" user_id=\"48765:

It is very clearly stated in the JAE admission booklet that the admission criteria are net L1R5, citizenship, gross L1R5. If still tied, it says that there will be a computerized ballot with EQUAL CHANCE given to candidates. No where does it mention that the order in which the JC was selected matter. So it means that if two students have identical nett and gross scores apply and both are citizens, it theoretically should not matter if the student put the JC as 1st choice or 3rd choice? Can someone shed some light on this because I keep hearing people say that that is not the case and that the student who put the JC as 1st choice would be given priority.

Consider this scenerio, the JC has 100 places

Computer consider round 1 : 1st choices of all students. At this round 100 students of COP 7 chose the JC and got in

Student B have the same COP 7 but only put the JC as 3rd choice ( which I presume the computer will process in round 3, correct me if I am wrong). But all places have already been filled in Round 1

I may be wrong though

[zac's mum]

But student B would have gotten into his 1st or 2nd choice liao. He’d be happy too.

[floppy]

stetan\" post_id=\"1959236\" time=\"1579078529\" user_id=\"3358:

ynwa9\" post_id=\"1959210\" time=\"1579073907\" user_id=\"48765:

It is very clearly stated in the JAE admission booklet that the admission criteria are net L1R5, citizenship, gross L1R5. If still tied, it says that there will be a computerized ballot with EQUAL CHANCE given to candidates. No where does it mention that the order in which the JC was selected matter. So it means that if two students have identical nett and gross scores apply and both are citizens, it theoretically should not matter if the student put the JC as 1st choice or 3rd choice? Can someone shed some light on this because I keep hearing people say that that is not the case and that the student who put the JC as 1st choice would be given priority.

Consider this scenerio, the JC has 100 places

Computer consider round 1 : 1st choices of all students. At this round 100 students of COP 7 chose the JC and got in

Student B have the same COP 7 but only put the JC as 3rd choice ( which I presume the computer will process in round 3, correct me if I am wrong). But all places have already been filled in Round 1

I may be wrong though

Choice order doesn’t matter. The rounds isn’t determined by choice order, the computer goes by your net score.

Based on your example. If student B 1st choice is COP 5, 2nd choice is COP 6, he would have not made it to the first two choices. He will be processed for his 3rd choice school with COP 7 along with all the 100 students who list the JC as first choice. In short, all places cannot be filled up until students of the same net score have been considered.

[zeemimi]

stetan\" post_id=\"1959236\" time=\"1579078529\" user_id=\"3358:

ynwa9\" post_id=\"1959210\" time=\"1579073907\" user_id=\"48765:

It is very clearly stated in the JAE admission booklet that the admission criteria are net L1R5, citizenship, gross L1R5. If still tied, it says that there will be a computerized ballot with EQUAL CHANCE given to candidates. No where does it mention that the order in which the JC was selected matter. So it means that if two students have identical nett and gross scores apply and both are citizens, it theoretically should not matter if the student put the JC as 1st choice or 3rd choice? Can someone shed some light on this because I keep hearing people say that that is not the case and that the student who put the JC as 1st choice would be given priority.

Consider this scenerio, the JC has 100 places

Computer consider round 1 : 1st choices of all students. At this round 100 students of COP 7 chose the JC and got in

Student B have the same COP 7 but only put the JC as 3rd choice ( which I presume the computer will process in round 3, correct me if I am wrong). But all places have already been filled in Round 1

I may be wrong though

I think allocation is by merit.
All the 2 pointers will be considered first. Followed by the 3 pointers, 4, 5, 6, ......
For the above scenario, student B will be considered together with all the 7 pointers. If he doesn't qualify for the 1st and 2nd choice, he competes on the 3rd choice together with all the other 7 pointers.
I believe the allocation task is easily solved using AI. Just input all the requirements. While human uses sequential logic, the computer is capable of processing multiple values concurrently.
So barring any computer bugs, student B should not miss 3rd choice to someone who has put the sch as 1st choice, assuming they get the same COP 7.