Networking Group - JCs General

[doodbug]

I hor, feel that if end aim is to go to SG unis, better do SG A levels, poly or IB - these are the recognized routes…SG A levels IGPs and poly GPAs are all published.


For other qualifications like UK A levels, cannot be sure it will be recognized even if we know of kids in local unis who enteted with UK A levels. The policy and treatment can change any time.

But if end aim is to UK or Aussie unis then UK A levels is less painful than SG A levels.

[MrsKiasu]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2095318\" time=\"1673962862\" user_id=\"17023:

You go find out more about Concord College.

It is very popular with many Singaporeans kids taking UK-A level there. Hearsay many do very well and can come back to apply into local universities. Of cos, maybe by then, your DD has decided she likes UK so much that she just wants to study in a UK uni instead of coming back to study in SG universities. UK I think can go, given that the exchange rate has fallen so much compared to just a few years ago!

Leeyl, you are really good, got so much info thank you.

[lee_yl]

Take IB is the best. I have not known of anyone whose kids who took IB (ACSI/SJI and international schools) cannot make it into local Uni. Whereas for SG A levels, quite a handful I know, couldn’t make it to local universities. So far, all of them opted for poly instead of retaking SG A levels. A levels must be traumatic for them


3 in 10 A level students cannot make it to local uni. From a macro level, it is not distributed uniformly across all the JCs. Maybe 5% from RI couldn’t make it to local Uni but when it comes to lower tier JCs, the proportion of students not making into local Uni could be 50%

[MrsKiasu]

Reading about the A, I'm also feeling very worry with mine. Go overseas for 5 years is really :moneyflies: what if the other also want/need to :nailbite: see if we both old ones can find 2 jobs or not

[MrsKiasu]

Leeyl, any idea if go poly for course A, then if say don’t like, can we go apply Uni (private in SG or overseas) for a not very related Degree course or they will want the kid to start fm Diploma?

[doodbug]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2095321\" time=\"1673964767\" user_id=\"17023:

Take IB is the best. I have not known of anyone whose kids who took IB (ACSI/SJI and international schools) cannot make it into local Uni. Whereas for SG A levels, quite a handful I know, couldn’t make it to local universities. So far, all of them opted for poly instead of retaking SG A levels. A levels must be traumatic for them

3 in 10 A level students cannot make it to local uni. From a macro level, it is not distributed uniformly across all the JCs. Maybe 5% from RI couldn’t make it to local Uni but when it comes to lower tier JCs, the proportion of students not making into local Uni could be 50%

Not easy to retake SG A levels as not all schools are able or willing to take repeat students for a better grade (not sure if there is some MOE guideline on this), unless you fail the A level completely and fail to get the A level certificate.

[SG_KP1]

For the A Level students, I’m not sure what the 70% figure is referencing. I am not 100% sure but I think some of these stats from historical time periods may be impacted by changing cohort sizes.


Currently, I think MOE has said local universities have spots for about 40% of the cohort or about 16,000 students. Roughly speaking this ties out with ~20,000 university intake x 85% or 17,500 students (10% IS and 5% PR, although some of these kids would have been part of the cohort as well).

JC1 Arts + Science intake is about 12,500 (not sure if this is A only or A + IB; I think it is both since the A Level results has included about 11,000 kids), Poly intake is around 20,500. Hence, 30% of Poly + JC = ~18,660. Assuming 30% of Poly kids were admitted first (just for illustrative purpose, not saying this is done), this would leave a JC to local uni admission rate in the high 70%. However, I think it is also fair to say that some JC kids will go elsewhere for whatever reason.

If you backup a decade, JC1 intake was 16,000+ and Poly intake was 26,000+. At the time, local university spots were more like mid-teens thousands.

I’m not suggesting everyone can get in or get what they want. Just saying the 70% figure didn’t tie out completely in my mind (article didn’t also seem to entirely define what / how 70% was calculated).

[doodbug]

A proportion of poly kids also choose to work instead of applying for university. I think it’s fair to say every A level kid tries to apply for uni after A levels as 1st option, but may dnd up articulating to other pathways if they cant get the uni place they desire

[phtthp]

doodbug\" post_id=\"2095334\" time=\"1673966943\" user_id=\"13281:

A proportion of poly kids also choose to work instead of applying for university. I think it's fair to say every A level kid tries to apply for uni after A levels as 1st option, but may dnd up articulating to other pathways if they cant get the uni place they desire

In a way, for Poly grads to work one or 2 years is good, in the sense that

AFTER working in the real world that is directly related to that Diploma u graduate from, if u don't like what u are working at, at least still can switch over to another different degree to study in the uni, later on.

Whereas
for A level graduates who blur blur choose a degree to study bec still lost in career direction,
they may end up regretting what they have studied for, in the uni.

[phtthp]

doodbug\" post_id=\"2095332\" time=\"1673966305\" user_id=\"13281:

Not easy to retake SG A levels as not all schools are able or willing to take repeat students for a better grade (not sure if there is some MOE guideline on this), unless you fail the A level completely and fail to get the A level certificate.

Yes, correct.

If say, an RI student didn't do well in A-level, RI won't take him back unless this student failed badly. Otherwise, he has to re-take as private candidate.