Chung Cheng High (Main)
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No, My DD is sec 4 this year. and this is the first time she has received such a punishment from the school. Is yr DS in upper sec this year?
It was the DM that was shouting and punishing the people. Yes, after that incident the school disallow teachers to punish students like that anymore, instead they will just send them to detention straight.
My DD said it was definitely a male teacher , bc all the students are standing in front and the teachers are at the back. But bc my DD didnt see who that teacher was, so I didnt lodge a complaint to the school.
According to the school, they said it’s one of the Singapore’s govt policy that students have to gather at a common venue for flag raising in the morning, so they cant do anything to change it, they can only shorten the timing of flag raising at most. My DD said that feedbacks to the FT will not work either, she had feedback about some problems before, but despite two reminders, nothing was done. So, I concluded that FT cannot do much either.
I am generally happy that the school is disciplining students, but I think that not all students deserve such a harsh punishment as it could be their first time in 4 years and they didnt do it on purpose. Moreover, they should also make sure that the teachers do not go overbroad when they want to punish their students ( example insulting the students or physically do damage to them). -
Victorica:
Yes totally Agreed. CCHM punishment is very harsh. Discipline methods are not intelligent.Hello everyone,
Does anyone thinks CCHMS punishment is harsh? My dd is studying at cchms, told me that she saw and experienced many different types of punishment. Detention and teachers forcing students to copy large chunks of text or do reflection are very common . After exams debrief, teachers can force the whole level of students to stay back for one hour! :scared: :scared: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:
At flag-raising ceremony, there are just too many students rushing down,causing a massive jam at cramp walkways and staircases. As a result, the teachers have to block out the students who cant reach there on time. then the Discipline Master will punish them by asking them to do 20 squads and more while facing the morning sun. My dd said a male teacher even pulled her hair to stop her from joining her class, I am so shocked! :scared: How can a teacher do that to a student? especially he is a male?! :mad: :mad: :rant: My dd always do things with a sense of urgency, but bc her classroom is very far from the parade square, the whole class always comes later than others, and the crowd jamming the staicases wont allow them to come down fast enough.
I personally feel that the school should not be punishing for no good reason. CCHMS is a generally a good school, they educate students on knowledge, they shouldn't make students suffer pain and humiliation in front of thousand of pupils. :mad: The DM always claims that he does not care if parents asked why is the school doing that, he claims they are EDUCATING the students to make them learn. Isn't that a bit too harsh?
My DD's classmates called a girl \"fat\" and were suspended from lesson. The \"fat\" girl was unable to sleep and needed counseling. School viewed that giving people's nickname is considered bully and is a very serious case so those who called the girl \"fat\" were being suspended from lesson. There was no warning to those bullied and the class. Immediately those bullied got suspended from class. School said detention is for minor case whereas suspension is for serious case. They viewed calling name is a serious case.
I think this punishment is not intelligent in handling. It is not long term solution in solving as it will cause those being punished to hate the \"fat\" girl more and no more friendship. This will definitely worsen their friendship. Those bullied said they would keep a distance from her. They will not befriend her as they afraid she may complain about them for any other matter and they will get punish again.
In my another child's school, the discipline master is very intelligent and experience. He handles differently and amazingly. My dd was bullied in school by her classmate beginning this year. Friends telling each other not to be her friend and gave my dd nickname as well. She cried and unable to sleep and also needed counseling. I contacted the discipline master and discipline master said he knew how to handle. Instead of punished those bullied students, he went to the class and explained and educated them. Amazing, immediately no more bully. Those bullied becomes my dd friends and now all can work together happily till now.
The above are my true experience. I find CCHM only know how to solve problem by just punished the students for detention or suspension. There is no other methods. Whereas my the other dd's school, the discipline handled very differently. So the school has lesser problems. They discipline the students differently. Students seldom have detention or suspension. The discipline master uses his true love and education method as he doesn't believe in punishment unless fighting or smoking cos he said he ever lost his student in a car accident so he treasure his students a lot. I salute this discipline master at other school. -
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how are the Teachers in cchm? will they stay back to help those students who doesn't do as well as others? :imcool:
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My ds says that mostly u have to ask the teacher for consultation if u need any help. If not is the teacher think u r weak and would ask u to stay back after school for extra lessons. Consultations are a great way to clear the doubts u have about the subject as most times its a 1 to 1 session if not is maximum around 2 or 3 so the teacher has more attention towards u
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Betty Boop:
My ds says that mostly u have to ask the teacher for consultation if u need any help. If not is the teacher think u r weak and would ask u to stay back after school for extra lessons. Consultations are a great way to clear the doubts u have about the subject as most times its a 1 to 1 session if not is maximum around 2 or 3 so the teacher has more attention towards u
I agree with Betty Boop. You need to approach the teachers for help if you have doubts. They are very willing to spend time with the students.
My DS has been approaching these subject teachers for help n he benefited a lot from the consultations.
He has been very fortunate to get good subject teachers (not all subjects, of course) but the one he has for SS is really superb - dedicated and encouraging. -
Victorica:
:nailbite: :yikes:Hello everyone,
Does anyone thinks CCHMS punishment is harsh? My dd is studying at cchms, told me that she saw and experienced many different types of punishment. Detention and teachers forcing students to copy large chunks of text or do reflection are very common . After exams debrief, teachers can force the whole level of students to stay back for one hour! :scared: :scared: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:
At flag-raising ceremony, there are just too many students rushing down,causing a massive jam at cramp walkways and staircases. As a result, the teachers have to block out the students who cant reach there on time. then the Discipline Master will punish them by asking them to do 20 squads and more while facing the morning sun. My dd said a male teacher even pulled her hair to stop her from joining her class, I am so shocked! :scared: How can a teacher do that to a student? especially he is a male?! :mad: :mad: :rant: My dd always do things with a sense of urgency, but bc her classroom is very far from the parade square, the whole class always comes later than others, and the crowd jamming the staicases wont allow them to come down fast enough.
I personally feel that the school should not be punishing for no good reason. CCHMS is a generally a good school, they educate students on knowledge, they shouldn't make students suffer pain and humiliation in front of thousand of pupils. :mad: The DM always claims that he does not care if parents asked why is the school doing that, he claims they are EDUCATING the students to make them learn. Isn't that a bit too harsh?
Helping a friend to check on some potential schools for her DD. I have very good impression of CCHMS until this piece of info surfaces. I don't think I can tolerate this kind of chinese old-fashioned disciplinary actions from school's teachers and leaders. I believe they may cause grave repercussions for some pupils when they become adults. :sad: Sorry I won't recommend this sch to friend.
Maybe it's only me... -
My younger girl has been in this school for 2 years already, proceeding on to secondary 3 next year , year 2016. I have never once regretted sending my girl to that school . We would usually talk about the events that happened at school during dinner. After reading the comments made by other parents in this forum , I would question my girl whether they are true
Yes discipline is strictly enforced in this school , but not enforced at random . Detention is given to students who are late , students who REPEATEDLY refuse to hand in/do homework , students who have abusive behaviour , among other serious cases.
My girl says that the teachers there are very caring and are willing to stay back after school hours to teach and coach the students regarding the subjects .
Based on the impression I have gotten about the school personally and from my girl , I feel that "hair pulling from male teachers" and "150 or even 20 squats" are very unlikely punishments given to the students from school . One thing , the discipline master is well received by students and is known to be nice from students , not saying the disciplinary part . As the saying goes "spare the rod , spoil the child ", discipline is necessary for students but I beg to differ that disciplinary actions is harsh in CCHMS .
Once again , CCHMS is a good school , all-rounded in its value teaching , academic syllabuses , heritage , discipline and lastly , teachers . -
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:nailbite: :yikes:Victorica:
Hello everyone,
Does anyone thinks CCHMS punishment is harsh? My dd is studying at cchms, told me that she saw and experienced many different types of punishment. Detention and teachers forcing students to copy large chunks of text or do reflection are very common . After exams debrief, teachers can force the whole level of students to stay back for one hour! :scared: :scared: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:
At flag-raising ceremony, there are just too many students rushing down,causing a massive jam at cramp walkways and staircases. As a result, the teachers have to block out the students who cant reach there on time. then the Discipline Master will punish them by asking them to do 20 squads and more while facing the morning sun. My dd said a male teacher even pulled her hair to stop her from joining her class, I am so shocked! :scared: How can a teacher do that to a student? especially he is a male?! :mad: :mad: :rant: My dd always do things with a sense of urgency, but bc her classroom is very far from the parade square, the whole class always comes later than others, and the crowd jamming the staicases wont allow them to come down fast enough.
I personally feel that the school should not be punishing for no good reason. CCHMS is a generally a good school, they educate students on knowledge, they shouldn't make students suffer pain and humiliation in front of thousand of pupils. :mad: The DM always claims that he does not care if parents asked why is the school doing that, he claims they are EDUCATING the students to make them learn. Isn't that a bit too harsh?
Helping a friend to check on some potential schools for her DD. I have very good impression of CCHMS until this piece of info surfaces. I don't think I can tolerate this kind of chinese old-fashioned disciplinary actions from school's teachers and leaders. I believe they may cause grave repercussions for some pupils when they become adults. :sad: Sorry I won't recommend this sch to friend.
Maybe it's only me...
Factually, I wouldn't be helping a friend if I will to advise him or her purely on hear-say or from some article that I read but not verify as true yet.
If indeed you are sincere to help your friend, go down to the sch, talk to the teachers, talk to the principle and talk to parents that have kids going to that school. That will give you true insight so that you can really give sound advice your friend. -
can I ask about the use of phones in cchm? and how's today's orientation? I was hoping that the school will allow pupils to make friends and know their classes etc but it ended up only being able to buy stuff & leave :lightrod:
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