GEP 2010 - Screening & Selection

[HyperKiasu]

CoffeeCat:

training to do better in the gep test is different from having the attitude to survive in gep.

rather than throwing so much money at him, might as well spent it on iq books and brainteasers and let the child practice.

Hi CoffeeCat,

Any books to recommend? I guess GEP potentials shall enjoy doing IQ or brainteasers tests. :thankyou:

[CoffeeCat]

HyperKiasu:

CoffeeCat:

training to do better in the gep test is different from having the attitude to survive in gep.

rather than throwing so much money at him, might as well spent it on iq books and brainteasers and let the child practice.

Hi CoffeeCat,

Any books to recommend? I guess GEP potentials shall enjoy doing IQ or brainteasers tests. :thankyou:

for the general reasoning
the \"obvious\" ones are the mensa ones. I not sure if most of them has worked solutions and it will be a good workout for the parents and the kids. I not sure if there are still questions testing on analogies like word A is to B as word c is to ___. you get the idea, any books with weird reasoning questions might be useful.
for the maths
for maths best to find puzzle (numerical, mathematical) in nature. You can find this small thin book called maths quiz 3 in popular. Again you might find the maths olympiad books a bit useful.
for english...
lol this one very hard to prepare. its either the case that your english is good enough or not. Both times i took the test i don't understand what the passage was talking about.

[HyperKiasu]

CoffeeCat:

for the general reasoning

the \"obvious\" ones are the mensa ones. I not sure if most of them has worked solutions and it will be a good workout for the parents and the kids. I not sure if questions that test on analogies like word A is to B as word c is to ___. you get the idea, any books with weird reasoning questions might be useful.
for the maths
for maths best to find puzzle (numerical, mathematical) in nature. You can find this small thin book called maths quiz 3 in popular. Again you might find the maths olympiad books a bit useful.
for english...
lol this one very hard to prepare. its either your english is good enough or not. Both times i took the test i don't understand what the passage was talking about.

thanks for the information
when did you take the test? When was the GEP implemented? wondering whether you are a parent or a kid :?
is the vocabulary for english very demanding?

[HyperKiasu]

vlim:

ya la... going into gep is unlike getting into a good secondary school...if the child 'no swim' he or she will sink in the gep....

Hi, Vlim,

any idea how many got drowned in the end? :?:

[HyperKiasu]

KSP:

Oh really? Then how come they are still surviving? Sorry, I'm not challenging but just want to find out more.

IMHO, they can survive because there is demand. Just as plastical surgery, if look can be artificially enhanced, why not brain?

[HyperKiasu]

p.s.


I love this forum very much and have read almost all the two hundred pages within 3 days. Once I log on, I become addicted.....

The \"big yellow envelope\" episode is especially dramatic. However, I had mixed feeling afterwards:
1) I felt it is fun, informative....
2) I was touched by the love of all the Kiasuparents, especially Kiasimom's \"养儿一百年, 长忧九十九......\" (kind of miss Kiasimom.... )
3) skeptical/confused about GEP.
* perhaps \"giftedness\" the word itself is a bit misleading.
* how many truly exceptional gifted ppl are there? perhaps 1 out of 100,000 ? So all the GEPers (1%) are only marginally or moderately gifted, right? So what is the difference between a marginally/moderately gifted and highly abitlity?
* If my little darlings were exceptional gifted, I would worry more than if they are what they are now, happy, care-free, stress-free.....
There are many exceptional gifted children grow up to become very weired persons with pretty low EQ. Perhaps their low EQ have been compensated by high IQ...
4) I felt sad some bright kids broke down when not accepted into GEP. Thus I hope our parents do not set expectations too high and avoid discussing too much about GEP with children.
5) We still can use the books ( as recommended by CoffeeCat ) to train the brain of our kids. But our purpose is definitely not GEP. Even they remain in mainstream, we still have a way to help them to unleash their potentials because i believe: 脑子越动越活

my 2centsworth

[Way2GO]

HyperKiasu:

IMHO, they can survive because there is demand. Just as plastical surgery, if look can be artificially enhanced, why not brain?

What HyperKiasu said hit the nail on its head:
Dr Peh survives cos' there is a demand; though I would add that Dr. Peh covers more than just GEP training to survive.
Do u know that Dr. Peh has pre-requisites b4 they accept your kid into the GEP training?
If they are so cxxx-sure, why the need for these pre-requisites?

MOE does not encourage preparation for GEP.
The msg is clear from its stance.

So what if you practice your child to qualify for GEP?
Are u going to hand-hold your kid henceforth?
Let it be: if your kid has it, cheers to u;
if not; GEP is not a big deal; there's light at the end of the tunnel.

Did u see the top scorers' for this year's A levels?
GEPers did not top the cohort!
Is this another cause for concern?

[verykiasu2010]

GEP is not everything


GEPers’ promotion to Sec 1 is also dependent on their attitude … so watch it there

spoke with some sec sch principal recently - also some concerns of the GEPers attitude in sec sch - even in IP school, there is no guarantee they will perform - it is all attitude issue

if a kid has been hot housed to make it into GEP, can she/he cope with the rigour of the programme ?

[Way2GO]

verykiasu2010:

GEP is not everything

how true.

[HyperKiasu]

absolutely.

GEP is nothing, nothing but an experiment with smaller size of class and earlier exposure to higher level of study.

Does GEP really matter?
P4-P6 only 3 yrs. the 3 yrs’ disparity will be levelled off very fast along the way…