What will be the COP for 2025 S1 posting?
11(M) or 10(M)?

What will be the COP for 2025 S1 posting?
11(M) or 10(M)?

Re: Chung Cheng High (Main)

qms\" post_id=\"2053952\" time=\"1640786260\" user_id=\"5718:

There's a reason for this arrangement and it has something to do with the location of the school. Consider what the residents there have to go through and you will understand why the school has made reporting time at 7.30 am when lessons only start at 8 am.

In the past, all schools (primary and secondary) in Singapore had two sessions (Double Session System), and 7:30 was a reasonable start time.
But now all secondary schools (and most primary schools) have implemented the single session system since 2000. 7:30 is no longer reasonable. We need to change accordingly. Long-term existence does not mean reasonable.
Reference link:
https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/history/events/53f31349-1918-493d-9c05-74017f98b9cb

qms\" post_id=\"2053969\" time=\"1640814209\" user_id=\"5718:

You should look at the traffic condition around the school 20 minutes before and after 7.30 am. It's insane. How would you feel if you were a resident staying there and trying to drive out of the house to work?

If you change the reporting time to 8 am, it means traffic will pile up from (to be optimistic) 7.40 am to 8.20 am. This is the time that residents there usually leave house for work. Would you be happy to be stuck in the traffic four days a week? What about not buying the house around the school in the first place if you don't want to have this problem?

Let's say you change the school start time to 8.30 am. Currently, students report to school at 8.30 am on Thursdays and this is the exception rather than the norm. Parents probably think that their children could go to school on their own one day a week. However, if you change the reporting time to 8.30 am everyday, the consideration would be different. You would still see traffic being piled up. It's a matter of time CCHMS principal becomes inundated with complaints from residents living around the school. Maybe the principal will get a visit from the MP of the area?

Traffic jams happen everywhere in the morning. Not only around the CCHM area. Please note that Anglican High School is also located in a residential area. There are no such imaginary problems.
[quote]Also, if you push the school start time to 8.30 am everyday, what would happen on CCA days? Lessons would end at 3.30 pm, CCAs would start at 4 pm and 7 pm. What time would it be when the students reached home? Bear in mind that some CCAs practice three times a week, so this would be the case three times a week.

Let's go even further. The coaches for CCHMS wushu also teach other schools. Pre-COVID time, wushu students from VJC would travel to CCHMS for their wushu training that started at 7 pm as CCHMS wushu students' end time for their training was 6.30 pm. Have a guess what time VJC students ended their wushu training? So, should we ignore VJC students since they were not CCHMS students? What about changing the training session to Saturdays? Sorry, the coaches had to go to another school for coaching (and mind you, the Saturday training was not the normal CCA day for this other school, too). So, how? Change coach? This is only one CCA. What about other CCAs?[/quote]This is just a special case for wushu, not a common CCA. In my opinion, we should ignore VJC students in this consideration.
[quote]So, you are not the only one who is concerned about the well-being of children. The fact that the school is unwilling to delay the start time means that there are other considerations and it is not just a simple matter of \"start late for the well-being of the students\". Between asking the school the push back the reporting time and you transferring your children to another school that meets your conditions, have a guess which one has a higher chance of happening.[/quote]Yes, everyone cares about the well-being of their children, but they just don't want to do or sacrifice anything for it.

MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2053986\" time=\"1640832034\" user_id=\"2964:

I think if the students need extra sleep, they should just go to bed earlier. :lightrod: If they dont want to sleep earlier, pushing back the start time doesn’t automatically mean they will get extra sleep, because they may just sleep even later.

I will ask my children to go to bed early. But my idea is to let all future students (if not now) benefit from starting school later.

qms\" post_id=\"2053969\" time=\"1640814209\" user_id=\"5718:

You should look at the traffic condition around the school 20 minutes before and after 7.30 am. It's insane. How would you feel if you were a resident staying there and trying to drive out of the house to work?

If you change the reporting time to 8 am, it means traffic will pile up from (to be optimistic) 7.40 am to 8.20 am. This is the time that residents there usually leave house for work. Would you be happy to be stuck in the traffic four days a week? What about not buying the house around the school in the first place if you don't want to have this problem?

Let's say you change the school start time to 8.30 am. Currently, students report to school at 8.30 am on Thursdays and this is the exception rather than the norm. Parents probably think that their children could go to school on their own one day a week. However, if you change the reporting time to 8.30 am everyday, the consideration would be different. You would still see traffic being piled up. It's a matter of time CCHMS principal becomes inundated with complaints from residents living around the school. Maybe the principal will get a visit from the MP of the area?

Also, if you push the school start time to 8.30 am everyday, what would happen on CCA days? Lessons would end at 3.30 pm, CCAs would start at 4 pm and 7 pm. What time would it be when the students reached home? Bear in mind that some CCAs practice three times a week, so this would be the case three times a week.

Let's go even further. The coaches for CCHMS wushu also teach other schools. Pre-COVID time, wushu students from VJC would travel to CCHMS for their wushu training that started at 7 pm as CCHMS wushu students' end time for their training was 6.30 pm. Have a guess what time VJC students ended their wushu training? So, should we ignore VJC students since they were not CCHMS students? What about changing the training session to Saturdays? Sorry, the coaches had to go to another school for coaching (and mind you, the Saturday training was not the normal CCA day for this other school, too). So, how? Change coach? This is only one CCA. What about other CCAs?

So, you are not the only one who is concerned about the well-being of children. The fact that the school is unwilling to delay the start time means that there are other considerations and it is not just a simple matter of \"start late for the well-being of the students\". Between asking the school the push back the reporting time and you transferring your children to another school that meets your conditions, have a guess which one has a higher chance of happening.

We all have good reasons to start early (7:30) or late (8:00). But for most schools in the world, 8:00 is the best start time. Anglican High school is a good sample for all Singapore schools.

ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2053978\" time=\"1640826983\" user_id=\"3:

Maybe we should do a quick poll in this thread to see if people support the idea of moving hours from 7:30am to 8am?

This is a good idea. And it should be better to include students.

Pegasus08\" post_id=\"2053939\" time=\"1640779582\" user_id=\"41264:

I'm a mother of a girl who is joining the school next year. I do think it is weird that lessons start at 8 am but flag raising/self reading takes 30 minutes, making school time start at 730 am. Besides, with covid, I presume that there is no large scale assembly and these are all done in the individual classrooms. Assuming it takes 5 to 10 minutes to sing the national anthem and the school song, it would be better to allow the school reporting time to be pushed later than 730 am. No change to lessons start time of 8 am, meaning no change to curriculum hours.

But of course, we can discuss all we want until the cows come home but unless there is an influential group (how strong is the PSG?) that conveys this to the new Principal or decision making committee, nothing will change.

Good idea to convey our voice to the school. In fact, I have already sent the message to the school. But the school just replied that it would consider this in the future. sad. I hope PSG can do something about this.

qms\" post_id=\"2053952\" time=\"1640786260\" user_id=\"5718:

There's a reason for this arrangement and it has something to do with the location of the school. Consider what the residents there have to go through and you will understand why the school has made reporting time at 7.30 am when lessons only start at 8 am.

Don't understand why?

mamamiya\" post_id=\"2053914\" time=\"1640765858\" user_id=\"6056:

CCHM has longer school hours as compared to a normal non-SAP secondary school. That’s because they cover additional lessons on appreciation of Chinese culture and elementary Malay language which are compulsory for all lower secondary school students. I don’t think it is possible for the school to start lessons at 0830hrs everyday, esp if there are other activities like CCA, electives to consider. Once a week is fine. But hey, I think CCHM is not the only school which starts at 0800hr. Many other schools start around the same time too

If CCHM could change the start time of each day to 8:00 (30 minutes late), it would make a big difference. Just like the Anglican High School has done.