Hi parents, when appealing to secondary schools provided we meet the cut off point, can we also submit Edusave awards and other leadership positions in primary school, and will it make the student stand a better chance? TIA!

Hi all, I’m considering TKGS for my daughter for Sec 1 next year. I would like to know where do the students go for MSP (Malay special program) classes? As I noted MSP is not part of their school subjects offered.


According to the website, school ends at 2.45pm, isn’t this quite late compared to other schools I heard is around 1.30 - 2.15pm?
Thanks in advance!

lakaik\" post_id=\"2081939\" time=\"1662969403\" user_id=\"137619:

With her result, she very likely can go in to RGS via her PSLE result. If RGS is her first priority, go ahead to apply thru PSLE result. She can always groomed for leadership in RGS via many other channels/opportunities.

If her heart is not with NYGH, no need to consider the WL at all. NYGH with cut off at AL7, she almost confirm can still enter the school via PSLE result later, if she still want to reconsider the school later. :xedfingers:

This is just my POV.

Appreciate very much for sharing your POV. You are right, the only reason my daughter is considering NYGH is for the Service Leadership program and even that it is only a WL. And maybe also that NYGH starts later at 8.15am. Otherwise RGS is still her preference.

AHsDad\" post_id=\"2081936\" time=\"1662968707\" user_id=\"172457:

Hi there. Rgs took in 13 girls through DSA community youth leadership (CYL). These girls still must take up own separate CCA (go thru audition and all).

Basically CYL commitment for year 1 is to help organise a social welfare event (old folks home cleanup. Etc). For year 2, as part of Character leadership education (CLE), the CYL girls will specifically enter ONE of the leadership modules. CLE is a programme for ALL girls.

There are still numerous other leadership Programmes, Eg prefects and student council, hence entrance via psle does not mean leadership opportunities are being held back.

Hoping the best for ur child (and all kids doing psle this year). As u mentioned, after psle then can confirm the decision

Thank you for sharing some very good insights to the RGS leadership activities. May I ask whether all CYL girls will definitely be part of the prefectorial board or it is a separate selection exercise?
And is that ONE CLE leadership module you mentioned above only meant for the CYL girls?

cutepandabear\" post_id=\"2081929\" time=\"1662967853\" user_id=\"150031:

Based on what you've shared, If it were me, and if the kid clearly wants RGS more, I would forgo the WL. No offence to anyone, but it is only a WL, not a CO in the bag, and therefore carries uncertainty with it as well, so very little marginal assurance. Especially with her grades, the odds are in your favour. I would roll the dice and use results to get into my dream school.

Re: leadership opportunities. Both RGS and NYGH have many leadership boards. One need not have entered the school via leadership domain to be groomed for leadership opportunities. And between the schools, I think RGS has more leadership roles available cos of their house system which NYGH doesn't have.

My two cents' worth. All the best.

Thank you, that's exactly what I wanted to know. I thought maybe there will be special RGS leadership training programs that are organised only for the RGS DSA CYL girls.

phtthp\" post_id=\"2081915\" time=\"1662963279\" user_id=\"35251:

Does your daughter want the school or want the \"Leadership\" domain ? Ask her - what does she want ?

If she desires \"Leadership\" a lot, then just accept the Wait-list ( from Nanyang Girls High ).

Because

assuming that
your girl actual PSLE results released in November 2022 managed to qualify for RGS Cut off point (via S1 posting),
very, very unlikely that
she will get back her \"Leadership\" in RGS.
Why ?

Because

during DSA (RGS) ( tests cum interview ) conducted, RGS panel of DSA management already very thorough, in considering who to give out the (COs and Wait-lists) to, amongst suitable applicants. If she were to enter RGS, her past DSA application record is still with them, and all the comments by them why she is not successful for Leadership (RGS) domain, are all kept there. They can always reference back, to her existing DSA application record.

So,
tell your daughter that even if she were to enter RGS via S1 posting, in the end, she won't get back the Leadership that she want. On the contrary, be mentally prepared to join and to accept some other Cca in RGS, instead.

Also, come January,
the audition process for respective Sec 1 Cca(s) in RGS, is cut throat competition, just to alert this first.
Very, very competitive, this Cca Audition exercise (process), that the Sec 1s go through, come every Term 1 when they newly joined RGS.

Frankly,
if I were your daughter (in her shoes), if \"Leadership\" means a lot to me, I will gladly accept NYGH (Leadership) WL, and forget about RGS. But, this is my own personal opinion, only. You all don't need to agree with me.

Thanks phtthp for the heads up on the Sec 1 CCA audition. Didn't realise there will a competition among students just to join a CCA. Will let my daughter focus on the upcoming PSLE and talk to her after that to see what she really wants.

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2081906\" time=\"1662961055\" user_id=\"188234:

Strong results! Most likely can at least ballot for RGS. One downside calculation I can suggest is take the worst grade for each subject across P5 SA2-P6 SA1-Prelim and sum them up. If still AL6 (ie lower scores in same subject, other subjects consistent), should have more comfort (but still not guaranteed).

I do not know about RGS but other schools there will be leadership opportunities for those beyond the DSA domain. But applicants will likely exceed spots so not guaranteed. I do think there are other leadership opportunities in upper secondary so not all is lost if miss out in Sec 1. It's a long journey, just keep improving oneself.

Good luck again!

Many thanks on the tips! Will mull over this with DD after PSLE.

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2081899\" time=\"1662958447\" user_id=\"188234:

Hi and congrats. I think there are two questions. First, does she want the domain or the school more? If domain, just put the NYGH WL in the preference submission and see if it gets converted. Rumor is NYGH WL has high chance of conversion.

Second, if want try RGS what are the odds of scoring lower than AL6 at PSLE? If AL6 can at least ballot for RGS and will most likely be placed into NYGH if ballot out. I guess in the end no one knows how our kids will score on the actual test, and it comes down to one's views about risk and reward.

Last consideration is that if try for RGS via PSLE but get posted to NYGH the leadership opportunity may not be guaranteed (will be applying for spots with all the kids posted via S1 just like at RGS).

Also, can just sit on this for a bit and focus on PSLE for the next 3.5 weeks. There is some time after PSLE before the preference submissions are due. Good luck!

Thank you SG_KP1 For the recent prelims she got AL4(D), MYE AL6 and P5 EYE AL5(D) in MS, so fingers crossed actual psle will not deviate too far. Thinking of forgoing NYGH WL May I ask if RGS or other secondary schools’ students in their respective talent area are all pre-selected during dsa? In short, will the secondary school still lookout for talents among those who enter via psle results? TIA again!

True, will sit on it till after PSLE, just that sometimes cannot help thinking about this dilemma haha

Dear parents, first time I’m posting in this DSA discussion. My DD received WL for NYGH leadership but got rejected from RGS which is her first preference. She probably might still get into RGS with her PSLE results but she’s also keen on the leadership training opportunity which I assume she will not get a chance if she gets into RGS using PSLE. To make this dilemma worse we also don’t know whether NYGH WL will get converted. Appreciate any advice from experienced parents here. TIA!

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Zinnia\" post_id=\"2007404\" time=\"1607506290\" user_id=\"135741:

[quote=coast post_id=2007387 time=1607503912 user_id=38933]

:congrats: :rahrah:

It is certainly not easy to get a ECHA award. All the best.

:thankyou: coast!!

yes, it’s certainly not easy to get. Besides getting nominated by school, the students went thru interview too 😆😆😆

Congrats again 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻[/quote]Thank you pampers ! Indeed we are surprise and delighted.
I recall my P4 daughter was only given an essay to write, she did not have to go through any interview.