City Harvest's founder Kong Hee & 4 others arrested/charged

[mdmlow]

Like go clubbing than go church

[Augmum]

mummy of three:

ooptimizer:

They are abusing the concept of tithing in the Bible to profit themselves. Just think - can you stay in a Sentosa Cove bungalow and drive a big car with bodyguards?

Loss of moral compass

That's how i feel.....that's why i raised that question....

[hquek]

mummy of three:

Tithing is not compulsory, it was in the old testament.

The way they do it is like putting pressure on donors.

I'm not well versed in this so not going there. point is, offering bags are passed out during service - my limited understanding is that not happy can don't give; happy can give. those who need some direction just take whereever they find (ie old testament).

The way I heard this church does is scary, eg can use credit card, give until bleed. Dunno if it's true but I'm taking it as is.

[sinoboy]

pirate:

But don't forget the Lord works in mysterious ways har. Who knows? Sometimes can be through the instrument of a deputy public prosecutor or six. This one is a big gun from Oxford.


:imanangel:

Oxford vs SCs and MP? Hard to say who wins. :scratchhead:

[phtthp]

High court Justice rajah said No need to hire a queen counsel from uk :-

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/court-dismisses-city-harv/596048.html

http://www.law.com/jsp/law/international/LawArticleIntl.jsp?id=1202596485277&slreturn=20130423074006

http://www.breakfastnetwork.sg/?p=2169

[vinegar]

hire a queen counsel? use church funds again?

[Fresco]

It is a fact that even biblical leaders cannot escape the pitfalls of succumbing to the subtle seduction of the devil. From spiritual success to moral decay and subsequently ministry failure. We have seen them all. How we run our race is how well we will finish when we stand before the Judge in the end.


When people twist biblical truths to fit their own pursuits and agenda, they are playing to be God themselves. God is no longer in the picture. It is these very people, even biblical leaders we revere, who will have problems with finishing well. God will be their final judge.

Mahatma Gandhi had this to say…‘I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.’

That’s something for all Christians to chew on.

[kaisuDad]

sinoboy:

pirate:

But don't forget the Lord works in mysterious ways har. Who knows? Sometimes can be through the instrument of a deputy public prosecutor or six. This one is a big gun from Oxford.


:imanangel:

Oxford vs SCs and MP? Hard to say who wins. :scratchhead:

we have a Law professor who is still struggling to win his sex for grade case. haha

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ngl2010:

The one that I don't like are those ex-prisoners selling badges, etc in the food court. I want to help them but I think it is not the way to help. They are all able-bodies and looks so healthy so why can't they do other jobs such as technician jobs, construction jobs, etc?

Let's be realistic, how many companies be it Mnc or sme would give chance to these people. Won't be surprised if the application forms would be the 1st one to go into the bin (unless the applicant kept quiet about his past history).

Even if he is given a chance but the minute co-workers learnt about his past history, teh work place would probably be a hell spot for him.

[sundaymorning]

路人甲:

ngl2010:

The one that I don't like are those ex-prisoners selling badges, etc in the food court. I want to help them but I think it is not the way to help. They are all able-bodies and looks so healthy so why can't they do other jobs such as technician jobs, construction jobs, etc?

Let's be realistic, how many companies be it Mnc or sme would give chance to these people. Won't be surprised if the application forms would be the 1st one to go into the bin (unless the applicant kept quiet about his past history).

Even if he is given a chance but the minute co-workers learnt about his past history, teh work place would probably be a hell spot for him.

Indeed that is true , its a pretty sad society. once wrong never given another chance to repent.