Dad jailed for hitting son

[mintcc]

I suppose the jail term also serve as a warning for others.


There had already been a few kids who were so badly abuse that they lost their young life as a result of adult abuse. 1 year old is all the more vulnerable as their organs are not fully developed yet.

[Blobbi]

I didn’t read very far back, but my feel is, this guy needs to feel fear to stop. Punitive measures have to be taken. It’s harsh but it works.

[tutormum]

Blobbi:

I didn't read very far back, but my feel is, this guy needs to feel fear to stop. Punitive measures have to be taken. It's harsh but it works.

I agree totally. 1 year old is too young to know or understand anything. Even for a 2 year old, one needs lots of patience to deal with them. Hitting a child this young won't yield the desired results. If a child cries, the more you hit him/her to try to stop the crying, the more he/she will cry. :roll: ALL potential parents should be sent for parenting course to learn how to care for their unborn child. Parents are protectors and care givers and if they don't meet the requirements, the child should be moved away from them as far as possible. One solution is to put the child in a foster home until the parents are deemed capable to care for him/her without using unnecessary force. :idea: Who knows, the father will take revenge on this poor child once he's out of jail. :nailbite:

[tree nymph]

I can only say that not all people has equal opportunities in life. They may not know the best way to disclipine kids. come to think of it, there’s no best way. one has to apply different methods for different kids though there are some generalization. Maybe they are first time parents, maybe the father should just walk away when he was angry, maybe the mother can bring the kiddo out and calm the kid down, maybe she can call her friends for advise, maybe she can google and search on the web for some ideas, maybe the father can bring the kiddo for a ride in his car to calm him down… but maybe not… they probably do not have this kind of help-lines… So why couldn’t the parents be counselled and taught to care for their kid?


Even though the judge may asks lots of questions and so on, a lot also depends on the lawyers presenting the cases for both sides. Anyway, the judge has already passed the sentence. although i think the sentence maybe a bit harsh, the judge may also want to hand out the harsh sentence to warn parents on this.

[Blobbi]

lovekidsverymuch:

Blobbi:

I didn't read very far back, but my feel is, this guy needs to feel fear to stop. Punitive measures have to be taken. It's harsh but it works.

Even if its 1st time?

I don't think this is his first time. I think it's his first time getting caught. People like that have a history of violence. His first time may have been a lot milder, but this level is easily surpassed cos the kid is defenceless, and it's oh so easy to carry on. That's why the child has to see the doctor. Sooner or later, he'll need hospitalization as the injruries get worse.

This man needs to feel the rotan to condition him to stop.

[Blobbi]

Tree Nymph and Tutormom,


You’re both talking like normal parents. We have our kids, we’re surprised that, wah, so hard to manage them (or harder than we thought). We even lose our tempers, smack them, and no matter how justified we feel, there’s always this tinge of regret and remorse so that we scurry to kiasuparents or our friends to vent and look for other ways to deal more effectively without causing grief. We want them to learn so that the whole process is not repeated. Of course it does get repeated, so we reflect and rethink our strategies …

Not so for these guys. It’s a completely different cycle to what a normal parent thinks. This guy is not interested in bettering the child - he’s interested in himself. He has a low tolerance for getting annoyed or, if he’s upset with something else, he wants a punching bag to let his stress out on. Children in these families are NOT better disciplined. In fact, they’re probably beaten up with very little idea why (what can a yr old boy do to deserve this?). When the child gets older and actually does make a misdemeanour that justifies punishment, the resultant "discipline" can land him in hospital, or he becomes strong enough to fight back. If you learn at a young age that violence is the key to power and surival, there’ll be another vicious cycle repeated in the following generation.

Yep, this guy desrves a jolt, either from the rotan or the end of an electric cable a la Skinner. We need to stop this vicious cycle.

[autumnbronze]

:thankyou: to those who GET it, after reading the article.



Also, as a fellow experienced but deceptively old sounding forummer mentioned, the child was not being 'disciplined' but abused.

I shall refrain from making anymore comments abt my stand.

To each his own lah .....

[Blobbi]

Blobbi:

Yep, this guy desrves a jolt, either from the rotan or the end of an electric cable a la Skinner. We need to stop this vicious cycle.

Just read my own post - a bit contradictory to say, stop violence with violence.

But with these people, violence is the only language they know. Maybe after that, we can talk sense with these people. But they have to be stopped first.

Autumnbronze, sorry - didn't know there was a controversy going on? My views are a bit extreme because I know of a 3 yr old whose fingers were broken ... I hope I didn't offend anyone and don't worry about offending me!

Poverty, frustration, depression often accompany these cases. There is no single cure-all fix. My own sense is, try to stop the pain first. The child goes to foster care (since home care is actually dangerous anyway). When the parent/s are able to prove they can take care of the kid (repeated interviews, counseling at MCYS, jail time, getting a stable job, a change in family mix, like grandparents or siblings chip in) after some time (can take months or years), they can have the kid back.

[autumnbronze]

Blobbi:

Autumnbronze, sorry - didn't know there was a controversy going on? My views are a bit extreme because I know of a 3 yr old whose fingers were broken ... I hope I didn't offend anyone and don't worry about offending me!

No controversy lah Blobbi.

I am being extreme too and for me, for this case involving a toddler, there's no 2 ways abt it

[tree nymph]

autumnbronze:

:thankyou: to those who GET it, after reading the article.



Also, as a fellow experienced but deceptively old sounding forummer mentioned, the child was not being 'disciplined' but abused.

I shall refrain from making anymore comments abt my stand.

To each his own lah .....

Maybe I don't GET it.

I too think its wrong the hit the child up like that too. But aren't we discussing if there are any better ways to teach this guy? So is this the only punishment that he can get. So what if he is back from jail, will he hate his son for making him loose his temper and then this cycle of using violence will go on and on...

blobbi:

Poverty, frustration, depression often accompany these cases. There is no single cure-all fix. My own sense is, try to stop the pain first. The child goes to foster care (since home care is actually dangerous anyway). When the parent/s are able to prove they can take care of the kid (repeated interviews, counseling at MCYS, jail time, getting a stable job, a change in family mix, like grandparents or siblings chip in) after some time (can take months or years), they can have the kid back

We alone can't do all. The parents have to realize what they did is wrong. So counselling etc plays a part in teaching the parents if they are indeed that ignorant.

Just hope that the child didn't suffer anything major and the parents realize that no matter what, the child doesn't warrant this kind of treatment.