All About Full-Time Maids

[gumiho]

bobo99:

Hihi


chanced upon this thread while checking out how to send money back to Myanmar for maid.

After seeing so much discussion about maids, I am wondering if there is a channel to share / warn others about the maids who have been transferred out so that the next potential employer can think twice about getting them.

The maid was an Indon, Siti Masidah from Nation Maid Agency, and she went on a shopping spree after stealing from my family. She did her shopping spree on the morning I went to deliver my baby; bought skimpy shorts and tops which she hid them between bedsheets (rolled up). She is a married Muslim with a child but yet buy all these skimpy shorts. She also stole spaghetti-dresses from neighbours and claimed that people gave them to her for being honest. We wanted to give her another chance but when we asked her to come clean since we knew about her acts, she actually climbed out of our flat through the bedroom windows!

That was a wake-up call to us how daring this Siti can be so we transferred her back to agency. Last we heard, she was re-employed by another family from Nation in Hougang branch.

Given how scheming she was to us, we hope the family she is currently with now will not suffer the ordeal and trauma (when she climbed down from our flat, we were still worried she may fall and hurt herself). She didnt hurt herself but came back in 1 complete piece 2 hrs later to ask us to take her back, of course, we didn't. If she could do something so daring, who knows what's next?

Thus, I suggest all who's looking for a transfer maid to think twice since agents usually are obligated to paint a nice picture of them so that they can be re-employed.

Getting a maid is really a gamble these days so if there can be better channels to share, maybe we can have more confidence in getting the right maid.

Heard so much about Nation. High Class Fee/Charges and problematic maids.

[Funz]

Why not send them maid home instead of allowing her to transfer?


Police report should have been made if there are evidence of theft and threat of suicide, that could have been used to blacklist the maid with MOM.

[bobo99]

The maid still has loan balance and we just want her out of our lives as she did all these while I was 2 weeks in my confinement. Even though there was the runaway insurance, it cannot be counted as Siti Masidah came back to ask us to take her back, so this cannot be considered as runaway or missing. We did make a police report within an hour after she ran away. Even the policeman asked us to get her out of our home, just in case she turned crazy and bring our=t the chopper to harm us, and this accordingly to the police officer, is so common.


The Nation manager was kind enough to let us change our choice of another maid even though the contract stated can change only Indo to Indo. We have now since changed to a Burmese and so far, simpler demands as probably she is from a Kampung and a freshie. Everytime if there’s any issue, I can call the counsellor from Nation to get it explained more clearly on what can and what cannot; so far, this has been helpful.

If there is a channel to blacklist those troublesome maids, that will be good. Employers can search abit before they get them.

So for our case, the evil maid is Siti Masidah from Nation Maid Agency.
We can only warn each other through such channels if such trouble maids are still in SG.

[straffan23]

Actually, I cannot understand why some employers would, on the one hand felt that their maids should be transferred to another employer; but on the other hand, and almost concurrently, ask forumers to blacklist this person. The deal is that if the maid is not transferred within 21 days, the employer still need to bear the consequence of losing the deposit as well as cost of repatriation.


Also, I feel that it is a social responsibility of us employers, and most of us here being parents when it comes to making a decision to either transfer a maid, or repatriate her. The former means she is worthy of a second chance, the latter means she is probably beyond help, and in worse case scenario, could even pose a danger to the new household!

Indeed, it could be a very expensive decision - which is why I do not agree with the current regulations! But then again, it would be so shitty if one day, should we end up as that unsuspecting employer, right?

[POA Teacher]

straffan23:

. The deal is that if the maid is not transferred within 21 days, the employer still need to bear the consequence of losing the deposit as well as cost of repatriation.

I haven't had to deal with any maid agency for a long while. I'm surprised to read from your post that the employer would lose the deposit? Isn't the agent the one contractually responsible for finding a replacement employer? And therefore the agent shouldn't be penalising the employer for the agent's own failure?
The airfare is payable by the employer.

[bobo99]

Hi all


I was a first time employer who had just given birth 2 weeks when Siti’s acts were uncovered and her stunts shown. Thus, couldn’t think of the best way to handle it.

My family was too stunned and shocked that she actually dare to climb out of the window and abseil down to ‘escape’ with her loot. And when she returned again to ask us to take her back, all in our mind was to prevent her from getting close to my baby and taking out the knife etc, as warned by the police officer.

This is SG and not some third world country and she’s a woman so we didnt expect all these episodes to happen. Also, she was treated like part of the family; ate salmon, drumsticks, Japanese brand ice-cream, slept in own bedroom with proper bed and mattress, and we even helped her shopped and brought her shopping to buy things back for her family and also arranged the courier for her big carton. Thus, was really a stab in our backs.

I was also very shocked when I received the letter from MOM to inform me that Siti Masidah has been successfully re-employed and new permit has been given.

It’s a shocking and rude way to learn how to handle maid for a first timer and we are still learning with the current one.

Before getting her, we read forums on guidelines on what to expect etc but nothing beats real time experience.

Hopefully Siti has learnt her lesson and is good to the current employer

[bobo99]

Actually, I cannot understand why some employers would, on the one hand felt that their maids should be transferred to another employer; but on the other hand, and almost concurrently, ask forumers to blacklist this person. The deal is that if the maid is not transferred within 21 days, the employer still need to bear the consequence of losing the deposit as well as cost of repatriation.


Also, I feel that it is a social responsibility of us employers, and most of us here being parents when it comes to making a decision to either transfer a maid, or repatriate her. The former means she is worthy of a second chance, the latter means she is probably beyond help, and in worse case scenario, could even pose a danger to the new household!

Indeed, it could be a very expensive decision - which is why I do not agree with the current regulations! But then again, it would be so shitty if one day, should we end up as that unsuspecting employer, right?

"All this while, we were praying for her to be send back if no prospective employer is keen on her. We were actually informed that the dateline is 1 month for a transfer maid to wait for the next potential employer, if not takers after 1 month, then Indo embassy will then allow their people to be sent home. Else, they have a waiting period of 1 month. "

We dont think she deserves a 2nd chance but we didnt know what else could be done to send her home. Could only pray that she wont get re-employed.

[chixchix]

bobo99:

Hi all


I was a first time employer who had just given birth 2 weeks when Siti's acts were uncovered and her stunts shown. Thus, couldn't think of the best way to handle it.

My family was too stunned and shocked that she actually dare to climb out of the window and abseil down to 'escape' with her loot. And when she returned again to ask us to take her back, all in our mind was to prevent her from getting close to my baby and taking out the knife etc, as warned by the police officer.

This is SG and not some third world country and she's a woman so we didnt expect all these episodes to happen. Also, she was treated like part of the family; ate salmon, drumsticks, Japanese brand ice-cream, slept in own bedroom with proper bed and mattress, and we even helped her shopped and brought her shopping to buy things back for her family and also arranged the courier for her big carton. Thus, was really a stab in our backs.

I was also very shocked when I received the letter from MOM to inform me that Siti Masidah has been successfully re-employed and new permit has been given.

It's a shocking and rude way to learn how to handle maid for a first timer and we are still learning with the current one.

Before getting her, we read forums on guidelines on what to expect etc but nothing beats real time experience.

Hopefully Siti has learnt her lesson and is good to the current employer

gosh !! luckily my agent is the type who never hesitates to send any of her maid back if they are not serious about working or are doing such nonsense.

[straffan23]

Well, first of all, the agency is responsible for next to nothing. And, they are held accountable for next to nothing, too! bobo99 I know how it feels - been there, done that, and cried rivers cos I blamed myself for all the bad decisions I made. I too, just gave birth and was managing 3 kids (and bad maids, and even worse agencies!)...


About costs and rights of the employer: Having paid agency fees ($1500), maid loan, insurance, etc etc - My contract stated that if I repatriate the maid, I would lose all the loan amount. However, if I let her lingo in the system for 21 days for transfer, I could \"transfer\" the balance of her loan onto my next maid with the agency. If I did anything to jeopardize her transfer (police report, blogs, forum, etc), then I would also lose the loan. (again, I do not agree with the system at all! Just no choice, and hopefully don't get those really horrible case!)

Of course, by then I was down more than $3000 with the F*&!@ agency :stupid: :stupid: which was why I cried rivers So, I had to think, do I put more money with the same agency, or change agency, etc etc. Of course, by then, the agency had collected so much money from us and we are the low-priority employers. All good candidates given to the NEW, unsuspecting employers - make more $$. So, this is the current system, and the problem with the system. Agency takes no responsibility, and neither does the maid. Everything is on the employer.

Hang in there... I do hope that you find someone that is right for your family. Also, if I were you, I'd try out infantcare. Even with maid, many babies still go to infantcare. Better quality of care and engagement, and babies love babies!

[33mama]

Can anyone advise me how to go about registering the home leave for my Indo maid in CPF website? Do you know where exactly is the link?