2014 TOP PSLE T-SCORE (EXCL HMT) - THE MAGIC 3D NUMBERS

[alng]

sotongdad:

Do you ever wonder why all the chinese elderly that never took PSLE MT or HMT school can read chinese newspapers and write in chinese better than our children?


All the resources that has been put in to help our children master MT (Chinese) and yet we cannot even achieve the standard of those who had never even go to school but yet master Chinese?

Something is wrong isn't it?

The key difference lies in our children's attitudes and motivation towards learning Chinese. In some cases, it is also the parents' attitudes towards Chinese.

[mother777]

The mother tongue issue is same across all ethinicity.

Being tamil, I would say I have heard my friends gripe about our kids lack on interest in Tamil. Hey but they still watch tamil movies ;).

Resource availability is another concern. Its not easy to get past year papers for Tamil. Even assessment books are way lesser compared to what is available for Chinese.

It could be because Tamil are minority here.
Not sure about Malay and the resources available to support it.

My daughter opted for chinese at P1, so we are making use of the ready resources at popular and past year papers.
Its a tough language. But if kids have a passion for reading and a curiosity to check the meaning of any new word they read, they should do fine..

When I grew up, I learned Hindi (not Tamil) and my parents could not support me in that front. But I still topped the class. Reason being I loved to read and was curious. Plus was scared that I will loose against the rest whose parents can support them. So worked double hard..

My DD likes chinese (not to the extent that she is crazy)..just likes it better than tamil. She is ok with it. She does complain about the compo..compre part.. rest seems to be ok.

But we communicate in tamil (my mother tongue) at home (so kiddos speak it well), and We taught basic tamil to my daughter so she can read.

Hope the future generation do not loose interest in MT of their choice and continue to support its existence into the years to come or else many languages will become extinct..except english which we all seem to embrace

[bekithia]

alng:

A popular primary school's principal (not SAP school) once told me that students who do well in MT will usually do well in the other subjects. I guess if the child has the perseverance to \"conquer\" MT, that child is likely to \"conquer\" all the other subjects.

Guess it didn't apply to me. Chinese was my only A* in PSLE and my only distinction in O levels.

Though my niece scored A* for Chinese, A for Maths and English, B for Science. Her score is 243.
My neighbour's ds scored A* for Maths, A for English and Science and B for Chinese. His score is only in the high 220s.

So better to put all resources in Chinese to score well for PSLE

[orange66]

My son got255 plus 3. Can he get into chi? Tx

[pirated]

sotongdad:

Do you ever wonder why all the chinese elderly that never took PSLE MT or HMT school can read chinese newspapers and write in chinese better than our children?


All the resources that has been put in to help our children master MT (Chinese) and yet we cannot even achieve the standard of those who had never even go to school but yet master Chinese?

Something is wrong isn't it?

The very thing that is very wrong is the way it is taught in school. The materials and the teachers are hopeless. Only a handful CL or HCL teachers are passionate enuf to be lang teachers to do it well. The rest are just passing time. Ok, any teachers out there can throw stones at me

[pirated]

bekithia:

alng:

A popular primary school's principal (not SAP school) once told me that students who do well in MT will usually do well in the other subjects. I guess if the child has the perseverance to \"conquer\" MT, that child is likely to \"conquer\" all the other subjects.

Guess it didn't apply to me. Chinese was my only A* in PSLE and my only distinction in O levels.

Though my niece scored A* for Chinese, A for Maths and English, B for Science. Her score is 243.
My neighbour's ds scored A* for Maths, A for English and Science and B for Chinese. His score is only in the high 220s.

So better to put all resources in Chinese to score well for PSLE

Because the standard deviation for CL is bigger than that of math or science. Part of the problem with the T score formula and purely because PSLE is a placement aka ranking exam, and testing the knowledge learnt is only a mean to an end

[loveballoons99]

There should be a freedom of choice when it comes to education. If MT or is forced upon our DC when some of them do not have a flair for it, then learning it becomes a punishment. The effects are counter productive…it makes some of them more resolved to avoid the use of the language.

As in the case of PSLE, unlike the ‘o’ levels, the MT score must be included to compute the t-score. If a child is poor in MT, they will naturally be at a disadvantageous position when T score is calculated.
One solution would be to choose the best of 3 subjects. If a child is good at MT, let him or her use it as part of their total score. If the child is poor at MT, don’t penalize them further by lowering their T-score. They are miserable as it is being forced to swallow a subject where they put most effort in and the return is low. Without the stress of ensuring a good score in MT, learning the language would be more enjoyable.

[pirated]

loveballoons99:

There should be a freedom of choice when it comes to education. If MT or is forced upon our DC when some of them do not have a flair for it, then learning it becomes a punishment. The effects are counter productive..it makes some of them more resolved to avoid the use of the language.

As in the case of PSLE, unlike the 'o' levels, the MT score must be included to compute the t-score. If a child is poor in MT, they will naturally be at a disadvantageous position when T score is calculated.
One solution would be to choose the best of 3 subjects. If a child is good at MT, let him or her use it as part of their total score. If the child is poor at MT, don't penalize them further by lowering their T-score. They are miserable as it is being forced to swallow a subject where they put most effort in and the return is low. Without the stress of ensuring a good score in MT, learning the language would be more enjoyable.

Policy maker does not want to see too many or everyone becomes a banananana

[loveballoons99]

pirated wrote:

>

There should be a freedom of choice when it comes to education.
> If MT or is forced upon our DC when some of them do not have a flair for it, then
> learning it becomes a punishment. The effects are counter productive…it makes some
> of them more resolved to avoid the use of the language.
> As in the case of PSLE, unlike the ‘o’ levels, the MT score must be included to compute
> the t-score. If a child is poor in MT, they will naturally be at a disadvantageous
> position when T score is calculated.
> One solution would be to choose the best of 3 subjects. If a child is good at MT,
> let him or her use it as part of their total score. If the child is poor at MT,
> don’t penalize them further by lowering their T-score. They are miserable as it
> is being forced to swallow a subject where they put most effort in and the return
> is low. Without the stress of ensuring a good score in MT, learning the language
> would be more enjoyable.

> Policy maker does not want to see too many or everyone becomes a banananana


The banana would still have to learn the language…but in a less stressful atmosphere… The score is optional.

[abachee]

Talk and discuss so much and the result is still like that.

You can cry and moan as much as you like until the Cow comes home, but the T-score will soon be abolish as mention by our prime minister. Hence, all psle will be gauge just like O level. Whether you dun like it or not, it’s here to stay. Either you accept it or ship out. That’s the life in Singapore.