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    * Eunoia JC (EJC)

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    • S Offline
      sinoboy
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      25HMOM:
      lee_yl:

      While the distance is a consideration for some, being overly obsessed with the 5 or 10 mins difference in traveling time miss the big picture. For the affected parents, it's the loss of govt credibility and uncertainties about the new JC.


      For a concerned taxpayer and citizen, it is about the accountability and the competency of the govt. It is quite amazing that a relatively simple matter of preparing an interim site and physically building a new JC on the designated permanent site has now lead to so much unhappiness and the matter is still pending a satisfactory resolution and explanation.

      Perhaps the govt might think you have missed the big picture. Which is more significant? Setting up an MRT line that can serve 5+ mil people or a small school that can house a mere 1800 pupils?

      Who knows, it may amaze the govt that a relatively simple matter such as a change in interim site and delay in building a new govt school can lead to so much unhappiness for those affected.
      How much confidence will the govt have on these pupils whom they planned to groom into future leaders or pillars of SGP if they cannot even make some sacrifices.

      Perhaps the govt has overlooked the fact that the interest of children, in this new generation Singaporean parents, are of utmost importance above all national matters.

      Just another controversial viewpoint.

      There are other bigger national issues to worry about than the temporary site of a new school. If the issue is priority then things will move very fast like the surprise acquisition of the jurong country club for the high speed rail terminus.

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        lee_yl
        last edited by

        25HMOM:


        Perhaps the govt might think you have missed the big picture. Which is more significant? Setting up an MRT line that can serve 5+ mil people or a small school that can house a mere 1800 pupils?

        Who knows, it may amaze the govt that a relatively simple matter such as a change in interim site and delay in building a new govt school can lead to so much unhappiness for those affected.
        How much confidence will the govt have on these pupils whom they planned to groom into future leaders or pillars of SGP if they cannot even make some sacrifices.

        Perhaps the govt has overlooked the fact that the interest of children, in this new generation Singaporean parents, are of utmost importance above all national matters.

        Just another controversial viewpoint.
        Obviously you are not an affected parent.

        Reminds me of the \"No studio flats for the elderly in my backyard\" incident where residents from Toh Yi estate objected to the building of studio flats for the elderly next to their HDB blocks. I thought The residents were being very selfish and I didn't understand their concerns. Now as an affected parent myself, I start to understand how the Toh Yi residents felt. It is always easy to talk about the abstract but when one's direct interest is trampled on, I dare say the perspectives will change very fast.

        Thee should not be any conflict between building a MRT line and a new JC. Likewise, there is no conflict between a credible, effective and efficient government that manages the national interests as well as takes care of the ground concerns. Why position a possible conflict when there is none? The government can (and should) continue to build their MRT as most of the parents are not asking anything in return. They only asked for a dialogue with the powers to be to seek clarity and re-assurances.

        This episode is a small matter and could have been nipped in the bud early had there been better coordination between the different government agencies, more transparent information sharing and pro-active communications with the parents and students.

        As parents, we always hope that our children will lead better lives than us. And it is this pursuit of a better life that makes us demanding and perhaps, also ensures that Singapore does not stagnate.

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          mashy
          last edited by

          25HMOM:
          lee_yl:

          While the distance is a consideration for some, being overly obsessed with the 5 or 10 mins difference in traveling time miss the big picture. For the affected parents, it's the loss of govt credibility and uncertainties about the new JC.


          For a concerned taxpayer and citizen, it is about the accountability and the competency of the govt. It is quite amazing that a relatively simple matter of preparing an interim site and physically building a new JC on the designated permanent site has now lead to so much unhappiness and the matter is still pending a satisfactory resolution and explanation.

          Perhaps the govt might think you have missed the big picture. Which is more significant? Setting up an MRT line that can serve 5+ mil people or a small school that can house a mere 1800 pupils?

          Who knows, it may amaze the govt that a relatively simple matter such as a change in interim site and delay in building a new govt school can lead to so much unhappiness for those affected.
          How much confidence will the govt have on these pupils whom they planned to groom into future leaders or pillars of SGP if they cannot even make some sacrifices.

          Perhaps the govt has overlooked the fact that the interest of children, in this new generation Singaporean parents, are of utmost importance above all national matters.

          Just another controversial viewpoint.

          :goodpost:

          However, I need to say that not all parents are like this. I believe there are still many out there who understand and will not groom their children to be strawberries.

          It is just a small issue but some chose to make such a big deal out of it. Maybe next time their army camp shift further into the jungle, they also wanna complain. If have training exercise, complain don't let their boys sleep and thus they cannot fight a war properly. :siam:

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          • lee_ylL Offline
            lee_yl
            last edited by

            It is a small issue, no doubt, but the fact that there is much unhappiness show how the government has mishandled the entire matter.


            Every generation is a strawberry generation to the earlier ones. Our parents and grandparents lived through The Great Depression, Japanese Occupation, race riots and many more, so who are we to snidely comment that our children are strawberries when we are likewise strawberries in our parents and grandparents’ eyes?

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              DennisB
              last edited by

              lee_yl:
              25HMOM:



              Perhaps the govt might think you have missed the big picture. Which is more significant? Setting up an MRT line that can serve 5+ mil people or a small school that can house a mere 1800 pupils?

              Who knows, it may amaze the govt that a relatively simple matter such as a change in interim site and delay in building a new govt school can lead to so much unhappiness for those affected.
              How much confidence will the govt have on these pupils whom they planned to groom into future leaders or pillars of SGP if they cannot even make some sacrifices.

              Perhaps the govt has overlooked the fact that the interest of children, in this new generation Singaporean parents, are of utmost importance above all national matters

              Just another controversial viewpoint.

              Obviously you are not an affected parent.

              Reminds me of the \"No studio flats for the elderly in my backyard\" incident where residents from Toh Yi estate objected to the building of studio flats for the elderly next to their HDB blocks. I thought The residents were being very selfish and I didn't understand their concerns. Now as an affected parent myself, I start to understand how the Toh Yi residents felt. It is always easy to talk about the abstract but when one's direct interest is trampled on, I dare say the perspectives will change very fast.

              Thee should not be any conflict between building a MRT line and a new JC. Likewise, there is no conflict between a credible, effective and efficient government that manages the national interests as well as takes care of the ground concerns. Why position a possible conflict when there is none? The government can (and should) continue to build their MRT as most of the parents are not asking anything in return. They only asked for a dialogue with the powers to be to seek clarity and re-assurances.

              This episode is a small matter and could have been nipped in the bud early had there been better coordination between the different government agencies, more transparent information sharing and pro-active communications with the parents and students.

              As parents, we always hope that our children will lead better lives than us. And it is this pursuit of a better life that makes us demanding and perhaps, also ensures that Singapore does not stagnate.

              :goodpost:

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                DennisB
                last edited by

                It is not productive for the unaffected to speculate when they do not have the full information. That’s how the term San gu Liu po came about.

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                  pirated
                  last edited by

                  DennisB:
                  It is not productive for the unaffected to speculate when they do not have the full information. That's how the term San gu Liu po came about.

                  and who is to say unaffected parents/students cannot and/or does not have full information ?

                  only parents / students of the 3 schools are allowed to know the info?

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                  • S Offline
                    sinoboy
                    last edited by

                    mashy:


                    However, I need to say that not all parents are like this. I believe there are still many out there who understand and will not groom their children to be strawberries.

                    It is just a small issue but some chose to make such a big deal out of it. Maybe next time their army camp shift further into the jungle, they also wanna complain. If have training exercise, complain don't let their boys sleep and thus they cannot fight a war properly. :siam:
                    Even before they enter army they might fight for downgrade to avoid NS so they don't have to complain jungle training, cry during PT, cannot sleep in tent etc.. 😢
                    Some of them actually are groomed by parents to be so beautiful you thought they look like Korean stars. Maybe don't count on these strawberries too much to fight alongside you when you need them. 🦆

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                      jetsetter
                      last edited by

                      lee_yl:

                      :rotflmao: I see myself as a stakeholder as my eldest will be taking her PSLE in 2 years time and as parents, by then, we have to decide on her behalf if we should go ahead and put SCGS IP as her first choice. The completion is end-2019 and DD1 JC1 will start Jan-2020.
                      Aiyo, chill la...you aren't an immediate affected parent yet mah, 李姑娘?

                      Your DD still have a choice to opt for another IP JC in 2-3 yrs later mah... 🦆

                      Try daddy's former JC instead? Confirmed rooted in Mount Pek San - bo zao chwee...

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                      • lee_ylL Offline
                        lee_yl
                        last edited by

                        pirated:

                        and who is to say unaffected parents/students cannot and/or does not have full information ?

                        only parents / students of the 3 schools are allowed to know the info?
                        No, just that it takes time and effort to find out more about the situation and unless you are affected or have a keen interest in the matter, you are not likely to invest the time and energy required to have all the facts.

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