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    All About Full-Time Maids

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      anyhowsay1
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      12mum:
      If the maid can't work for someone else during the investigation period, she is considered to be still under the employment of that employer who needs to continue paying for her food, lodging and levy?

      The maid cannot work for someone else while under investigation. This is what MOM says. But we know now, saying is one thing. Actually enforcing it is another.

      Employer can & should cancel the work permit immediately when the maid starts to act up and throw accusations at you. Timing is important. Apply to MOM STRAIGHT-AWAY to cancel the work permit, say you don't want the maid anymore, regardless of the outcome of the investigation cos she gave you problems etc...before anything else blows up further in your face. MOM cannot say NO or STOP YOU. Remember, we employers have the prerogative to employ and to sack as we wish. So use this POWER to your advantage. Sever the connection, save your money.

      Always remember, the maid has a group of supporters/advisors working tirelessly behind the scenes on her behalf, to plan her next move against you the employer.

      The investigation officer will then apply for a special permit for the maid to remain in Singapore for the duration of investigation. If you DON'T CANCEL MAID WORK PERMIT, then you have to be responsible for lodgings, food, levy so on and so forth. Any costs at all as the person is STILL LEGALLY YOUR MAID.

      HOW TO DO IT?
      You just cancel the work permit online and show MOM the computer printout. Better you do it and not the agent. However, below are the things you must pay for compulsorily, work permit or no work permit:
      (1) repatriation costs
      (2) last salary
      (3) if the maid died, then any costs associated with sending the body back to the homeland.

      Anything that is not stated online (RULES AND REGULATIONS) , don't pay. Anything not stated in the contract, don't pay. As far as the law is concerned, your obligations must be discharged if only it is a stated rule and regulation of MOM or if it is stated in black and white on the employment contract what you must pay for the maid during the PERIOD OF ONGOING INVESTIGATION.
      However, employment contract usually never say what is the employer's obligations in situations like INVESTIGATION PERIOD AND WHEN MAID IS OFFICIALLY NOT YOUR MAID AND WP IS CANCELLED. Never say in black and white, don't pay lah.

      If the maid is given back to the agency, the agency housed her, fed her, but probably secretly make the maid do work to EARN HER KEEP and maintenance. Same for HOME i supposed.
      Else where to find money to feed the person especially if the person has to remain for 6 months during investigation and is a big eater?

      MORAL OF THE STORY: Read your employment contract line by line. Know what you are signing for. Don't sign your life/money away.

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        hopes
        last edited by

        Hi, anyhowsaid1,


        :thankyou:
        :udawoman:

        I believe HOME n some agent who discriminate the spirit of \"human right\" will dislike you till the max. Hehe...

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          anyhowsay1
          last edited by

          hopes:
          Hi, anyhowsaid1,


          I believe HOME n some agent who discriminate the spirit of \"human right\" will dislike you till the max. Hehe...
          I learnt some things the hard way.

          Forgot to say that if the maid runs away to HOME, or runs away to the agent, employer should immediately make police report (whether the report is needed or not later doesn't matter), and on the same day, buy a plane ticket at the earliest date (repatriation procedure complied with as this one you cannot avoid anyway), and then cancel the maid's work permit, to sever connection with the maid. There might be a chance that someone will help the maid to hurl charges at employer. Show the plane ticket and cancelled work permit to MOM officer and lodged a complaint with MOM (never mind even if they don't do anything about it, it is in their record already).

          Thereafter if the maid stays on to help in the investigation of charges against the employer, it will be none of the employer's business. MOM AGENT HOME will push the costs to you, you push it back to them.

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            cchansp
            last edited by

            Looking to hire a maid. Does anyone have advise on which nationality is better?

            Does the nationality make a difference in the amount you pay?

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              Sweet Joy
              last edited by

              Thinking of hiring a maid again. If only a maid can work in two households it will be good. Some days with me and other days at my parents’ home. Don’t really need a full-time maid. Yet, there are still many chores to be done around the house.

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                Snow24
                last edited by

                Sweet Joy:
                Thinking of hiring a maid again. If only a maid can work in two households it will be good. Some days with me and other days at my parents' home. Don't really need a full-time maid. Yet, there are still many chores to be done around the house.

                Hi

                You can engage a part time cleaner to clean the house for you.

                If you have a maid,you need to supervise her.

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                  Snow24
                  last edited by

                  cchansp:
                  Looking to hire a maid. Does anyone have advise on which nationality is better?

                  Does the nationality make a difference in the amount you pay?
                  Hi

                  The starting salary for new maid is the same for Indonesia and Philippine.

                  Filipino is more educated hence got attitude.

                  Indonesian maid you might have language barrier as their English standard not so high.

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                    Sunshineday08
                    last edited by

                    Some small agencies I spoke to told me their indo. maid can reach spore in 2-3wks and when I called a bigger agency like Nation maid agency, was told it’ll take 2 mths for the maid to arrive spore, due to some MOM regulations, which that guy said small agencies doesn’t adhere too…


                    Why the difference in timing? What’s the truth? Can someone pls help me with an explanation?

                    Thanks in advance!

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                      Snow24
                      last edited by

                      anyhowsay1:
                      hopes:

                      Hi, anyhowsaid1,


                      I believe HOME n some agent who discriminate the spirit of \"human right\" will dislike you till the max. Hehe...

                      I learnt some things the hard way.

                      Forgot to say that if the maid runs away to HOME, or runs away to the agent, employer should immediately make police report (whether the report is needed or not later doesn't matter), and on the same day, buy a plane ticket at the earliest date (repatriation procedure complied with as this one you cannot avoid anyway), and then cancel the maid's work permit, to sever connection with the maid. There might be a chance that someone will help the maid to hurl charges at employer. Show the plane ticket and cancelled work permit to MOM officer and lodged a complaint with MOM (never mind even if they don't do anything about it, it is in their record already).

                      Thereafter if the maid stays on to help in the investigation of charges against the employer, it will be none of the employer's business. MOM AGENT HOME will push the costs to you, you push it back to them.

                      Hi Hopes

                      At the same day of making police report, we buy a plane ticket with future date flight date or the day itself ? If the maid stay to assist in investigation then she will not be boarding the plane based on the plane ticket we bought for her. Are we still liable to ensure she is repatriated back.

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                        hopes
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                        Snow24:
                        anyhowsay1:

                        [quote=\"hopes\"]Hi, anyhowsaid1,


                        I believe HOME n some agent who discriminate the spirit of \"human right\" will dislike you till the max. Hehe...

                        I learnt some things the hard way.

                        Forgot to say that if the maid runs away to HOME, or runs away to the agent, employer should immediately make police report (whether the report is needed or not later doesn't matter), and on the same day, buy a plane ticket at the earliest date (repatriation procedure complied with as this one you cannot avoid anyway), and then cancel the maid's work permit, to sever connection with the maid. There might be a chance that someone will help the maid to hurl charges at employer. Show the plane ticket and cancelled work permit to MOM officer and lodged a complaint with MOM (never mind even if they don't do anything about it, it is in their record already).

                        Thereafter if the maid stays on to help in the investigation of charges against the employer, it will be none of the employer's business. MOM AGENT HOME will push the costs to you, you push it back to them.

                        Hi Hopes

                        At the same day of making police report, we buy a plane ticket with future date flight date or the day itself ? If the maid stay to assist in investigation then she will not be boarding the plane based on the plane ticket we bought for her. Are we still liable to ensure she is repatriated back.[/quote]Hi, Snow24,

                        Sorry is Anyhowsay1 who shared and I belived she has better idea.
                        She mentioned we buy airticket with earliest date.
                        2nd, if thing turn out ugly, any investigation, is a pushing game between all different party.

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