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    2015 PSLE Discussion and Strategies

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    • dimsumD Offline
      dimsum
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      lee_yl:
      cyberette:


      If you join after Sec 4, it's only about $40k per annum. Not that bad. πŸ˜“

      I've a rich friend who sends his daughters to one of these 3 local international schools.

      The international education learning environment is more enriching and flexible, according to them. There're foreigners in their small class as well. I believe there are boarding opportunities. There's no streaming. And your fellow classmates are all well-to-do kids.

      My friend will send them to an overseas uni after they get their IBDP. When they come back, they might well be on par with, if not better than their peers who went through IP or O/A-level tracks.

      http://ifonlysingaporeans.blogspot.sg/2015/02/home-grown-international-schools-in.html


      It's a good alternative for those who with deep pockets and who don't want to stress their DC too much. :evil:

      Exactly! A friend who sent her children there shares similarly positive feedback and highlights the lower level of stress the family faces as compared to when the children were in local schools. Friend also shares that after her kids enter international school, she cancels all the tuition and enrichment classes her children received, and as a result, financially, the cost of international school is not much higher as compared to the cost of local schools.

      The parents are very well-to-do. They plan for their kids to study in overseas uni and it's a much more relaxing path by sending the kids to these 3 local international schools.

      Tan Su Shan, the top DBS banker sent her 2 kids to SJII.
      Claire Chiang, youngest son studied in ACS International.

      If the child is very bright, she will excel in these intl schools (big fish in small pond, with a big % of foreigners who are not so kiasu and on about studies, plus some local students with 21x T-scores), garnering top academic awards. This actually makes it easier for him to enter top overseas Uni.

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      • dimsumD Offline
        dimsum
        last edited by

        Kittycatz:
        lee_yl:

        [quote=\"cyberette\"]
        If you join after Sec 4, it's only about $40k per annum. Not that bad. πŸ˜“

        I've a rich friend who sends his daughters to one of these 3 local international schools.

        The international education learning environment is more enriching and flexible, according to them. There're foreigners in their small class as well. I believe there are boarding opportunities. There's no streaming. And your fellow classmates are all well-to-do kids.

        My friend will send them to an overseas uni after they get their IBDP. When they come back, they might well be on par with, if not better than their peers who went through IP or O/A-level tracks.

        http://ifonlysingaporeans.blogspot.sg/2015/02/home-grown-international-schools-in.html


        It's a good alternative for those who with deep pockets and who don't want to stress their DC too much. :evil:

        Exactly! A friend who sent her children there shares similarly positive feedback and highlights the lower level of stress the family faces as compared to when the children were in local schools. Friend also shares that after her kids enter international school, she cancels all the tuition and enrichment classes her children received, and as a result, financially, the cost of international school is not much higher as compared to the cost of local schools.

        Do note that these kids buy their way in with money and not talent.

        Almost all are rich. Many are very arrogant.

        Well, if that's the kind of environment you want your kid to be in.

        My kid have known some of them, and his verdict is he wouldn't want to be studying among them.

        The true scholars do not join international schools.[/quote]Quite true, came across a ST article about this girl in one of these schools. Her shopping trips are in Milan, New York with her mum. :yikes: They carry chanel /Hermes as schoolbags

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        • lee_ylL Offline
          lee_yl
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          Kittycatz:


          Let me tell you something. The high achievers in most primary schools (mainstream & GEP) are the more worrisome lot. They have good grades and that's it. Good character building in them is next to non-existent. I can attest to that based on my observations and the feedback given after DSA camps in secondary schools. Most of them have over-fed egos. Many are downright spoilt brats and you know by who. Parents need to get radical with their kids that good character is more important than grades.

          For me, I am very grateful that that my two kids had moved on to their ideal secondary schools through sheer hard work and determination. One scored 271 and the other 249 for PSLE....
          Very sorry, are you saying your chil who scored 271 is not just academically bright but is also of good character, ε“ε­¦ε…ΌδΌ˜, while other HA children have over-fed egos, are spoilt brats and non-existence good character?
          Kittycatz:
          Do note that these kids buy their way in with money and not talent.

          Almost all are rich. Many are very arrogant.

          Well, if that's the kind of environment you want your kid to be in.

          My kid have known some of them, and his verdict is he wouldn't want to be studying among them.

          The true scholars do not join international schools.
          Those I know who sent their children to international schools are middle-class families but not ultra rich ones. The children are not arrogant quite unlike what you have painted. Their first choice was to send their children to their own affiliated secondary schools but somehow their children missed the cut-off point. They are not grooming the children to be \"true scholars\", but rather just aiming to provide the best for their children.

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          • C Offline
            cyberette
            last edited by

            dimsum:
            lee_yl:

            [quote=\"cyberette\"]
            If you join after Sec 4, it's only about $40k per annum. Not that bad. πŸ˜“

            I've a rich friend who sends his daughters to one of these 3 local international schools.

            The international education learning environment is more enriching and flexible, according to them. There're foreigners in their small class as well. I believe there are boarding opportunities. There's no streaming. And your fellow classmates are all well-to-do kids.

            My friend will send them to an overseas uni after they get their IBDP. When they come back, they might well be on par with, if not better than their peers who went through IP or O/A-level tracks.

            http://ifonlysingaporeans.blogspot.sg/2015/02/home-grown-international-schools-in.html


            It's a good alternative for those who with deep pockets and who don't want to stress their DC too much. :evil:

            Exactly! A friend who sent her children there shares similarly positive feedback and highlights the lower level of stress the family faces as compared to when the children were in local schools. Friend also shares that after her kids enter international school, she cancels all the tuition and enrichment classes her children received, and as a result, financially, the cost of international school is not much higher as compared to the cost of local schools.

            The parents are very well-to-do. They plan for their kids to study in overseas uni and it's a much more relaxing path by sending the kids to these 3 local international schools.

            Tan Su Shan, the top DBS banker sent her 2 kids to SJII.
            Claire Chiang, youngest son studied in ACS International.

            If the child is very bright, she will excel in these intl schools (big fish in small pond, with a big % of foreigners who are not so kiasu and on about studies, plus some local students with 21x T-scores), garnering top academic awards. This actually makes it easier for him to enter top overseas Uni.[/quote]Apparently, Jamie, the rich tai tai's daughter is in HCIS. :evil:

            I'm already thinking of Harrow and Winchester grammar schools -- Singapore style...

            I suppose their parents could always afford to send them overseas for secondary and high schools in UK or US too, but the girls being so young at 13, such Singapore-based international schools are a safer option.

            They reckon if their DC could get into a decent overseas uni in the UK or US, they could stay behind to seek employment in global MNCs or banks in the country they attained their uni degree, or return to Singapore to help out in their family SME or join their dad's friend's firm. They don't want/need to fight tooth and nail for our PSC scholarships in Yr 5-6 and be bonded to a government agency.

            \"True scholars\" are those who can survive the rigours of our meritocratic system. Many of them will strive hard to clinch those coveted prestigious scholarships offered by the government because it gives them a strong sense of pride and achievement to be recognised in such manner, regardless of their wealth status. Most will have a predictable career path charted by someone after they graduate.

            Different routes are designed for different types of students with varied backgrounds and needs. Both are \"talent\" to the country; one for the private sector, the other for the public sector. No one is above the other. They must work hand in hand when they enter the workforce.

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            • S Offline
              Steadyberry
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              Kittycatz:


              Remember....all schools are good schools? Haha...so let's not talk about top schools, better schools or Neighbourhood schools here. At least not for primary schools whereby the cohort in each school are from a good mix of HA and average/below average students. Every school has her share of best performing students. I realise the so-called top schools do not have 100% PSLE passes compared to the lesser known Neighbourhood schools. In truth, these Neighbourhood schools really see to the overall performance of their students and ensure that no one is being left out. Every child matters. To me a school is a good and top school when it can bring out the best in every pupil, not just the HA pupils but even the weakest performing pupil.

              My 2 kids came from two different so-called Neighbourhood schools. My elder kid's school had about 25 pupils obtaining 250 and above, mainly from the 1st class. My second kid's school had about 40+ pupils obtaining above 250 from 2-3 classes, with 28 from the 1st class. These two Neighbourhood schools were able to produce a fairly good percentage of above average performers. My elder kid's school had 100% PSLE passes almost yearly but my second kid's school which produced 40+ Scorers of 250 & above had 97% passes for that year. The school also did not see
              100% passes in other years.

              Parents and kids from 'branded' schools are clueless about other Singapore primary schools besides their own? Now look who's being 'sua ku'? How big is Singapore? The sad thing is people tend to measure one's worth from the school
              one goes to. Be it primary or secondary. The intrinsic value in a person matters no more. It's all about grades and status.

              Let me tell you something. The high achievers in most primary schools (mainstream & GEP) are the more worrisome
              lot. They have good grades and that's it. Good character building in them is next to non-existent. I can attest to that based on my observations and the feedback given after DSA camps in secondary schools. Most of them have over-fed egos. Many are downright spoilt brats and you know by who. Parents need to get radical with their kids that good character is more important than grades.

              For me, I am very grateful that that my two kids had moved on to their ideal secondary schools through sheer hard work and determination. One scored 271 and the other 249 for PSLE. To me, both my kids had outperformed themselves and they are bright shining stars in my eyes. With no private tuition, all these would not have been
              possible without the dedication and support of teachers from their so-called unbranded primary schools.

              Whatever results a child has managed in the PSLE, as long as the child has outperformed himself/herself or done his best, that is truly what matters.
              I hv nothing more to say except that I envy you. You hv kids who came from neighborhood school, hardworking, no tuition but scored 271 & 249, not spoilt brats & do not hv over-fed egos. :offtopic:

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              • phtthpP Offline
                phtthp
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                Not only good Tr from the school, but also u have raised your 2 kids very well, to be responsible in self learning, no need to rely on any tuition, and have good character. You have done a great job in parenting. keep it up !

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                • janet88J Offline
                  janet88
                  last edited by

                  Kittycatz:

                  To me a school is a good and top school when it can bring out the best in every pupil, not just the HA pupils but even the weakest performing pupil.

                  My 2 kids came from two different so-called Neighbourhood schools. My elder kid's school had about 25 pupils obtaining 250 and above, mainly from the 1st class. My second kid's school had about 40+ pupils obtaining above 250 from 2-3 classes, with 28 from the 1st class. These two Neighbourhood schools were able to produce a fairly good percentage of above average performers. My elder kid's school had 100% PSLE passes almost yearly but my second kid's school which produced 40+ Scorers of 250 & above had 97% passes for that year. The school also did not see 100% passes in other years.

                  Parents and kids from 'branded' schools are clueless about other Singapore primary schools besides their own? Now look who's being 'sua ku'? How big is Singapore? The sad thing is people tend to measure one's worth from the school one goes to. Be it primary or secondary. The intrinsic value in a person matters no more. It's all about grades and status.

                  Let me tell you something. The high achievers in most primary schools (mainstream & GEP) are the more worrisome lot. They have good grades and that's it. Good character building in them is next to non-existent. I can attest to that based on my observations and the feedback given after DSA camps in secondary schools. Most of them have over-fed egos. Many are downright spoilt brats and you know by who. Parents need to get radical with their kids that good character is more important than grades.

                  For me, I am very grateful that that my two kids had moved on to their ideal secondary schools through sheer hard work and determination. One scored 271 and the other 249 for PSLE. To me, both my kids had outperformed themselves and they are bright shining stars in my eyes. With no private tuition, all these would not have been possible without the dedication and support of teachers from their so-called unbranded primary schools.

                  Whatever results a child has managed in the PSLE, as long as the child has outperformed himself/herself or done his best, that is truly what matters.
                  your kids are amazing and they have done beautifully...the schools they studied have wonderful teachers who dedicated themselves to teaching well and thus no need for tuition. there should be more of such teachers...why do parents have to send kids to school and then engage tutors? your children's schools have proven that it is possible for teachers to go all out to teach.

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                    678Yess
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                    Let me tell you something. The high achievers in most primary schools (mainstream & GEP) are the more worrisome lot. They have good grades and that’s it. Good character building in them is next to non-existent. I can attest to that based on my observations and the feedback given after DSA camps in secondary schools. Most of them have over-fed egos. Many are downright spoilt brats and you know by who. Parents need to get radical with their kids that good character is more important than grades.


                    For me, I am very grateful that that my two kids had moved on to their ideal secondary schools through sheer hard work and determination. One scored 271 and the other 249 for PSLE. To me, both my kids had outperformed themselves and they are bright shining stars in my eyes. With no private tuition, all these would not have been possible without the dedication and support of teachers from their so-called unbranded primary schools.

                    Whatever results a child has managed in the PSLE, as long as the child has outperformed himself/herself or done his best, that is truly what matters.[/quote]

                    you do not need to put down GEP and high achiever student while talk so proudly about how yr kid has done so well. These kids are not that is it. They are children from parent who come from humble backgroud too.

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                    • P Offline
                      pdh
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                      janet88:
                      crabcrabby:

                      anyone has insight on how PSLE marking is conducted? just curious haha πŸ˜‰ perhaps ST should write an article on this .... provide some interesting snippets.


                      1. i assume teachers will not mark their own schools' papers?
                      2. only p6 teachers are involved?
                      3. each paper is marked by 2 teachers?

                      the psle exam scripts are split into clusters. for eg bukit timah pri scripts will be marked by teachers from mgs. according to my friend who has been marking exam scripts, she told me one section is marked by 6 teachers...it's like production line. if there is any discrepancy, they will escalate to chief marker.

                      Hi Janet, has your teacher friend who marks the psle papers, given any feedback about how the students have fared in this year's PSLE?

                      I hope my DS had done well... still feeling nervous and anxious even though PSLE is over. I kind of drag the day for release of PSLE results. πŸ˜“

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                        pdh
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                        Can any parent share what your p6 kids are doing in school everyday after the exams? My DS is so bored and he said there was nothing exciting happening in school everyday. No sports or outdoor activities allowed due to the haze. Only play board games or read in class. No more lessons and the teachers leave the children to their own devices. The only excursion they had was to visit the plant whereby NEW water is manufacturerd. Actually the school has a yearly 3-day trip to Malacca but thus time round is cancelled due to the haze, much to the disappointment of the children. The haze really spoils the celebrative mood of this year's post-PSLE days. :gloomy:

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