Compare RGS vs NYGH
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678Yess:
[/quote]cronyism is a very strong word.
So she told you they practice cronyism ?pirated:
[quote=\"678Yess\"]
Ya right. It is a joke to know things like this exIst in Singapore. Especially to a Rich school like NYGH. What I wrote was my personal experience with Nygh based on last year experience. We were invited to a tea session with Mdm Heng, the principal, so that she can convince us to choose the school. We were completely put off by her explanation of their selection criteria. You can clarify with Mdm Heng again, if you are invited for the tea session.
Affiliation to enter secondary school is a form of cronyism. Don't you agree?
And what's the selection criteria that's so objectionable to you ?
In the name of \"diversity\",even your child's personal data is the same with another child. You child is not being selected because you may be from school B instead of school C. May be, because you are the reason. Too many parents using Nissan. The school wants someone using BMW.....etc.... A lot of may be... but, not a very fair reason that allow those involved to manipulate the outcome.
Please share. Thank you.
The girls drove their parents' Nissan and BMW into the interview room? How would P know? Based on home address?
Who were those rejected in your DD's year? Popular sch toppers, Geppers, neighbourhood school toppers?
Play games and eat burgers - not sure if the panel was quietly observing their mannerism, table etiquette, decorum, character/values (kiasuism : chiong 1st to buffet, sharing of food with others, chomp noisily instead of nibble, loudness of voice and laughter, poise & grace when seated, personal grooming, sportsmanship, leadership).
Don't underestimate interactive games. Might hv some bearing, who knows. Dun flame me, but methinks the choice of burger could be deliberate. There's a tricky way to eat burgers for ladies.
Believe it or not, as a job interviewer, I also look at candidates nails, hair and how they drink that beverage I offer you. These are all soft skills. Can't fault the P. -
678Yess:
Is always like that, when the top school did not accept our child, we blame it on the school's unfairness.
Ya right. It is a joke to know things like this exIst in Singapore. Especially to a Rich school like NYGH. What I wrote was my personal experience with Nygh based on last year experience. We were invited to a tea session with Mdm Heng, the principal, so that she can convince us to choose the school. We were completely put off by her explanation of their selection criteria. You can clarify with Mdm Heng again, if you are invited for the tea session.
If our girls did not receive CO or WL from RGS, parents blame it on Geppers, because they feel that the school give priority to the Geppers.
And when RGS accepts our girl but NYGH rejects her, we feel that my girl is good enough for RGS so why is she not good enough for NYGH to accept her? Only if both schools accept our girl, we feel great that both schools are good schools
I'm sure both schools have their own set of criteria in selecting the type of girls they feel can fit into their program well.
And when our girl is rejected, it does not mean she's not good enough, it may be just on that day she did not do well in her interview. Just like when a top student did not ultimately become the top PSLE student in her own school, it's not because she's not smart. It may be due to nervousness or restlessness, whereas her peers performed better because they are less nervous or they rested well during the PSLE exam period.
Parents who try DSA have to mentally prepared for rejection. -
Yes, reactions displayed during the interactive games or during interview may reveal the personality of the child.
These are natural reactions thus reflect well in the child’s behaviour, strengths and weaknesses. -
jetsetter:
I recall how a CO via DSA (acad) was offered to a girl from a neighbourhood school scoring 80s for her academic subjects while another girl from Nyps scoring the same kind of marks was turned down in the same year. My quiet conclusion was that nygh preferred to take in girls from other schools to nyps during DSA. I thought the DSA process at NYGH was an unfair game to the affiliated school but I felt since the girls already had that affiliation advantage, I guess it all evens out.
Play games and eat burgers - not sure if the panel was quietly observing their mannerism, table etiquette, decorum, character/values (kiasuism : chiong 1st to buffet, sharing of food with others, chomp noisily instead of nibble, loudness of voice and laughter, poise & grace when seated, personal grooming, sportsmanship, leadership).
Don't underestimate interactive games. Might hv some bearing, who knows. Dun flame me, but methinks the choice of burger could be deliberate. There's a tricky way to eat burgers for ladies.
Believe it or not, as a job interviewer, I also look at candidates nails, hair and how they drink that beverage I offer you. These are all soft skills. Can't fault the P.
DSA is not just the time for the girls to pick the schools they like, it's also a time when secondary schools accept the ones they have earmarked ie. National champion in the name of DSA. It will not be a system or process which satisfies or appeases everyone, like any other systems that weigh heavily on opinions and achievements.
I shudder to think that girls as young as 12 or 13 are assessed based on the way they eat their food and I certainly hope this is just our wild imagination. There are many who are able to exhibit exemplary manners and etiquettes in public but behave otherwise at home. Unless a girl has gone through some etiquette and grooming courses, I would not expect a 12- or 13-year-old to eat like a trained princess. -
rains:
for Upper primary (P5/P6) girls -
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I shudder to think that girls as young as 12 or 13 are assessed based on the way they eat their food and I certainly hope this is just our wild imagination. There are many who are able to exhibit exemplary manners and etiquettes in public but behave otherwise at home. Unless a girl has gone through some etiquette and grooming courses, I would not expect a 12- or 13-year-old to eat like a trained princess.
do primary schools send professional coach down to school premises, as part of \"social etiquette, grooming\" enrichment courses conducted by schools, to provide training to P5/P6 soon-to-graduate girls : how to eat, drink, talk, sit, behave, at appropriate school function ?
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phtthp:
for Upper primary (P5/P6) girls -rains:
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I shudder to think that girls as young as 12 or 13 are assessed based on the way they eat their food and I certainly hope this is just our wild imagination. There are many who are able to exhibit exemplary manners and etiquettes in public but behave otherwise at home. Unless a girl has gone through some etiquette and grooming courses, I would not expect a 12- or 13-year-old to eat like a trained princess.
do primary schools send professional coach down to school premises, as part of \"social etiquette, grooming\" enrichment courses conducted by schools, to provide training to P5/P6 soon-to-graduate girls : how to eat, drink, talk, sit, behave, at appropriate school function ?
(sorry, side track a bit)
In the past, the one in AMK did provide such personal grooming classes like facial training. The P was very into cultivating graceful ladies. But that was in sec sch.
Not sure abt now. -
rains:
Agreed. Hope it's really a figment of my imagination!
I recall how a CO via DSA (acad) was offered to a girl from a neighbourhood school scoring 80s for her academic subjects while another girl from Nyps scoring the same kind of marks was turned down in the same year. My quiet conclusion was that nygh preferred to take in girls from other schools to nyps during DSA. I thought the DSA process at NYGH was an unfair game to the affiliated school but I felt since the girls already had that affiliation advantage, I guess it all evens out.jetsetter:
Play games and eat burgers - not sure if the panel was quietly observing their mannerism, table etiquette, decorum, character/values (kiasuism : chiong 1st to buffet, sharing of food with others, chomp noisily instead of nibble, loudness of voice and laughter, poise & grace when seated, personal grooming, sportsmanship, leadership).
Don't underestimate interactive games. Might hv some bearing, who knows. Dun flame me, but methinks the choice of burger could be deliberate. There's a tricky way to eat burgers for ladies.
Believe it or not, as a job interviewer, I also look at candidates nails, hair and how they drink that beverage I offer you. These are all soft skills. Can't fault the P.
DSA is not just the time for the girls to pick the schools they like, it's also a time when secondary schools accept the ones they have earmarked ie. National champion in the name of DSA. It will not be a system or process which satisfies or appeases everyone, like any other systems that weigh heavily on opinions and achievements.
I shudder to think that girls as young as 12 or 13 are assessed based on the way they eat their food and I certainly hope this is just our wild imagination. There are many who are able to exhibit exemplary manners and etiquettes in public but behave otherwise at home. Unless a girl has gone through some etiquette and grooming courses, I would not expect a 12- or 13-year-old to eat like a trained princess.
But pleasant disposition plays a role too. Same reason why kids must have their haircut prior to PSLE oral, and don clean uniforms n shoes to attend dsa intvs... -
Ikid:
Parents who try DSA have to mentally prepared for rejection.
I cannot agree more. Given that any kind of selection based on broad criteria is uncertain, then parents should be prepared that the outcome may not be what they desire. More importantly, they need to prepare their kids to be able to accept the outcome, whatever it may be. My daughter was unsuccessful in her DSA application to RGS but she got in later, and has been a good student and an active participant in school activities. The school can't get it \"right\" every time. -
Heng you were not part of the cronyism
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if i’m not wrong, NYGH is affliated to HCI.
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