Compare RGS vs NYGH
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[quote=\"jetsetter\"]678yess:
1. You're not the parent of that 275-scorer, and you're alleging that the P and school had been unfair. May I know whether your DD was rejected by NYGH too, though you mentioned she had RGS CO thru Eng domain?
Whatever I said, is not about being sore for being rejected, or feeling as a sore loser, I believe there are many parents who are like in the shoe the girl I was talking to. This girl I talked about, I had a conversation with the mum, because this girl is a close friend of my girl. Although some of you may experience different thing, what I have shared, was not a fiction. It was about my experience with NYGH, and I just would like to share my account the people who want to know more about NYGH through this forum.
2. This girl you're sticking your neck out for. Was she a GEPer or MSer? You said she had more talents than others. Did she have other outstanding non-academic talents, besides that Character Award and excellent general academic results? And may I know whether she was from NYPS, your DD's former school in the NE, or neighbourhood schools? You'd suggested that P was biased towards certain p-schs.
Those thing I have said, is not about Gepper versus MS.... I am not interested in this. Both Gepper and non gepper, should be treated equally. People likes to always \"hantam\" gepper as more geppers were given CO, but what to do, geppers have been selected in p4, and given different kind of training, why should anyone be surprised when more geppers are being selected.... Again, this is not what I want discuss here.....
3. Any idea if the rest of the girls in her tea party were given CO or all were outrightly rejected? I ask this because you seem to imply the girls were taken on a joy ride and merely invited to \"凑数\", as if to make the school appear to be fair? Maybe unbeknown to you, the rest had something non-academic/ different to offer that she hadn't?
I have verified how NYGH selects student from Madam Heng directly during the tea session. She said and I quote her here. \"I will rank the students from the same primary school together, and from there, they will give CO to some of the students from the same school eventhough there are many of them which is better some students from another school. This is for our survivor.\" So, if your child is from GEP school, the chances for your child will be lesser as they will only offer certain number of CO to the whole lots of students from that school, as to provide \" diversity\".I personally feel that this method is not right, as every applicant is not given equal right based on merit, but based on where you come from, i.e Primary school. Therefore, School like RGPS, Rosyth school, Nan Hua, Tao Nan..etc... many of the outstanding girls were surprise they were given WL instead of CO. (This is my personal opinion of the definition of outstanding girl).
I want to conclude this. Months ago, some people said, NYGH is more \"down to earth\", I reacted by stating my personal experience. Some parents defended NYGH, but none dare to say that those are good practice.Those who want to make the choice between the two.... Choose it with your wide eye open.... Hope that my real experience can help you to make your choice wiser.....
I must say this. Although I was not happy with how we were being treated during the DSA process by NYGH, we moved on, and my DD is now a happy girl in RGS. My purpose of sharing those past experience and my though here . Those who want to make the choice between the two.... Choose it with your wide eye open.... Hope that my real experience can help you to make your choice wiser.....
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678Yess:
If NYGH change their interview format, or cancel all the \"burger\" session this year, this can means that what I have raised was really bad.... I am awaiting to see how NYGH do their DSA this year...... Action will speak louder than argument.....jetsetter:
678yess:
1. You're not the parent of that 275-scorer, and you're alleging that the P and school had been unfair. May I know whether your DD was rejected by NYGH too, though you mentioned she had RGS CO thru Eng domain?
Whatever I said, is not about being sore for being rejected, or feeling as a sore loser, I believe there are many parents who are like in the shoe the girl I was talking to. This girl I talked about, I had a conversation with the mum, because this girl is a close friend of my girl. Although some of you may experience different thing, what I have shared, was not a fiction. It was about my experience with NYGH, and I just would like to share my account the people who want to know more about NYGH through this forum.
2. This girl you're sticking your neck out for. Was she a GEPer or MSer? You said she had more talents than others. Did she have other outstanding non-academic talents, besides that Character Award and excellent general academic results? And may I know whether she was from NYPS, your DD's former school in the NE, or neighbourhood schools? You'd suggested that P was biased towards certain p-schs.
Those thing I have said, is not about Gepper versus MS.... I am not interested in this. Both Gepper and non gepper, should be treated equally. People likes to always \"hantam\" gepper as more geppers were given CO, but what to do, geppers have been selected in p4, and given different kind of training, why should anyone be surprised when more geppers are being selected.... Again, this is not what I want discuss here.....
3. Any idea if the rest of the girls in her tea party were given CO or all were outrightly rejected? I ask this because you seem to imply the girls were taken on a joy ride and merely invited to \"凑数\", as if to make the school appear to be fair? Maybe unbeknown to you, the rest had something non-academic/ different to offer that she hadn't?
I have verified how NYGH selects student from Madam Heng directly during the tea session. She said and I quote her here. \"I will rank the students from the same primary school together, and from there, they will give CO to some of the students from the same school eventhough there are many of them which is better some students from another school. This is for our survivor.\" So, if your child is from GEP school, the chances for your child will be lesser as they will only offer certain number of CO to the whole lots of students from that school, as to provide \" diversity\".I personally feel that this method is not right, as every applicant is not given equal right based on merit, but based on where you come from, i.e Primary school. Therefore, School like RGPS, Rosyth school, Nan Hua, Tao Nan..etc... many of the outstanding girls were surprise they were given WL instead of CO. (This is my personal opinion of the definition of outstanding girl).
I want to conclude this. Months ago, some people said, NYGH is more \"down to earth\", I reacted by stating my personal experience. Some parents defended NYGH, but none dare to say that those are good practice.Those who want to make the choice between the two.... Choose it with your wide eye open.... Hope that my real experience can help you to make your choice wiser.....
My purpose of sharing those past experience and my though here is for those who want to make the choice between the two.... Choose it with your wide eye open.... Hope that my real experience can help you to make your choice wiser.....
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may be this year they eat cookies instead of burgers
and by this year Mdm Heng would have been there for 7 years as principal, and if she is been rotated to another secondary school or a heartland school, do you want to claim that she got transferred or demoted due to your feedback ? -
678Yess:
There is nothing wrong with this approach. Even world renowned universities do this, and this is only secondary school DSA. It is an acknowledgement that results can be affected by where the student comes from, ie. the student who was not from those schools you mentioned was handicapped by being in the 'not so good' primary school. All the more so when the said 'not so good' schools actually followed MOE's guidelines of putting students in mixed ability classes.
I have verified how NYGH selects student from Madam Heng directly during the tea session. She said and I quote her here. \"I will rank the students from the same primary school together, and from there, they will give CO to some of the students from the same school eventhough there are many of them which is better some students from another school. This is for our survivor.\" So, if your child is from GEP school, the chances for your child will be lesser as they will only offer certain number of CO to the whole lots of students from that school, as to provide \" diversity\".I personally feel that this method is not right, as every applicant is not given equal right based on merit, but based on where you come from, i.e Primary school. Therefore, School like RGPS, Rosyth school, Nan Hua, Tao Nan..etc... many of the outstanding girls were surprise they were given WL instead of CO. (This is my personal opinion of the definition of outstanding girl).
\"Merit\" is not just about who had better marks. For that, there is always PSLE. -
pirate:
Nygh is not a private sxhool, it is only independent school. Majority of the fund comes from the government.
There is nothing wrong with this approach. Even world renowned universities do this, and this is only secondary school DSA. It is an acknowledgement that results can be affected by where the student comes from, ie. the student who was not from those schools you mentioned was handicapped by being in the 'not so good' primary school. All the more so when the said 'not so good' schools actually followed MOE's guidelines of putting students in mixed ability classes.678Yess:
I have verified how NYGH selects student from Madam Heng directly during the tea session. She said and I quote her here. \"I will rank the students from the same primary school together, and from there, they will give CO to some of the students from the same school eventhough there are many of them which is better some students from another school. This is for our survivor.\" So, if your child is from GEP school, the chances for your child will be lesser as they will only offer certain number of CO to the whole lots of students from that school, as to provide \" diversity\".I personally feel that this method is not right, as every applicant is not given equal right based on merit, but based on where you come from, i.e Primary school. Therefore, School like RGPS, Rosyth school, Nan Hua, Tao Nan..etc... many of the outstanding girls were surprise they were given WL instead of CO. (This is my personal opinion of the definition of outstanding girl).
\"Merit\" is not just about who had better marks. For that, there is always PSLE. -
what is done these two sxhool needs to be answerable to the general public. I was saying the policy adopted by nygh is not fair to each applicant. Since they are funded by tax payer money through, every applicant shd be treated equally.Meritocarcy is the fundamental of our society.
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pirate:
I agree with you. In fact, it is not even easy for Mdm Heng to do this.
There is nothing wrong with this approach. Even world renowned universities do this, and this is only secondary school DSA. It is an acknowledgement that results can be affected by where the student comes from, ie. the student who was not from those schools you mentioned was handicapped by being in the 'not so good' primary school. All the more so when the said 'not so good' schools actually followed MOE's guidelines of putting students in mixed ability classes.678Yess:
I have verified how NYGH selects student from Madam Heng directly during the tea session. She said and I quote her here. \"I will rank the students from the same primary school together, and from there, they will give CO to some of the students from the same school eventhough there are many of them which is better some students from another school. This is for our survivor.\" So, if your child is from GEP school, the chances for your child will be lesser as they will only offer certain number of CO to the whole lots of students from that school, as to provide \" diversity\".I personally feel that this method is not right, as every applicant is not given equal right based on merit, but based on where you come from, i.e Primary school. Therefore, School like RGPS, Rosyth school, Nan Hua, Tao Nan..etc... many of the outstanding girls were surprise they were given WL instead of CO. (This is my personal opinion of the definition of outstanding girl).
\"Merit\" is not just about who had better marks. For that, there is always PSLE. -
pirate:
Pirate:
There is nothing wrong with this approach. Even world renowned universities do this, and this is only secondary school DSA. It is an acknowledgement that results can be affected by where the student comes from, ie. the student who was not from those schools you mentioned was handicapped by being in the 'not so good' primary school. All the more so when the said 'not so good' schools actually followed MOE's guidelines of putting students in mixed ability classes.678Yess:
I have verified how NYGH selects student from Madam Heng directly during the tea session. She said and I quote her here. \"I will rank the students from the same primary school together, and from there, they will give CO to some of the students from the same school eventhough there are many of them which is better some students from another school. This is for our survivor.\" So, if your child is from GEP school, the chances for your child will be lesser as they will only offer certain number of CO to the whole lots of students from that school, as to provide \" diversity\".I personally feel that this method is not right, as every applicant is not given equal right based on merit, but based on where you come from, i.e Primary school. Therefore, School like RGPS, Rosyth school, Nan Hua, Tao Nan..etc... many of the outstanding girls were surprise they were given WL instead of CO. (This is my personal opinion of the definition of outstanding girl).
\"Merit\" is not just about who had better marks. For that, there is always PSLE.
you did not read the part I quote properly. Those thing I quote, was said directly by Madam Heng, not define by me.
You rebutted without reading.... -
I know some girls prefer RGS but their parents prefer NYGH and vice versa.
Personally, I feel that if you decided to try both, please be prepared that you are ok with either one, otherwise, if only any one of these 2 schools gives you a CO, you may just not accept it or you may have hard time deciding whether to accept the CO.
Example, this girl prefers RGS, mummy is ok with either one, so mummy encouraged the girl to apply both and she did.
When results is out, only NYGH issued a CO, girl didn’t receive CO or WL from RGS.
As this girl had strong preference for RGS, she decided to wait for PSLE T-score and decided to turn down NYGH CO.
Mummy felt wasted if just give up NYGH CO. Girl insisted to wait, so mummy had no choice but to respect the girl’s decision.
Good news, girl got high T-score that enable her to enter RGS, mummy was relieved, the girl was happy.
But, what would have happened if the girl didn’t score well enough to go RGS? Can’t even enter NYGH with her T-score (NYGH COP is higher than RGS)
So parents and girls, have a good thought about it. Is always nice to receive more than 1 COs, but it doesn’t happen to every girl.
Is really about you, which school do you strongly prefer. -
678Yess:
Pirate:
There is nothing wrong with this approach. Even world renowned universities do this, and this is only secondary school DSA. It is an acknowledgement that results can be affected by where the student comes from, ie. the student who was not from those schools you mentioned was handicapped by being in the 'not so good' primary school. All the more so when the said 'not so good' schools actually followed MOE's guidelines of putting students in mixed ability classes.pirate:
[quote=\"678Yess\"]
I have verified how NYGH selects student from Madam Heng directly during the tea session. She said and I quote her here. \"I will rank the students from the same primary school together, and from there, they will give CO to some of the students from the same school eventhough there are many of them which is better some students from another school. This is for our survivor.\" So, if your child is from GEP school, the chances for your child will be lesser as they will only offer certain number of CO to the whole lots of students from that school, as to provide \" diversity\".I personally feel that this method is not right, as every applicant is not given equal right based on merit, but based on where you come from, i.e Primary school. Therefore, School like RGPS, Rosyth school, Nan Hua, Tao Nan..etc... many of the outstanding girls were surprise they were given WL instead of CO. (This is my personal opinion of the definition of outstanding girl).
\"Merit\" is not just about who had better marks. For that, there is always PSLE.
you did not read the part I quote properly. Those thing I quote, was said directly by Madam Heng, not define by me.
You rebutted without reading....[/quote]I think I understood that part. I agree with Madam Heng's approach and disagree with you.
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