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    * Nanyang JC (NYJC)

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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      mindays
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      hellohahaha:
      Hi everyone, anyone has a comparison between NYJC and SAJC? In terms of acads, culture, teachers, results, system etc thanks šŸ™‚

      SAJC vs NYJC
      Science: 9 vs 6
      Arts: 9 vs 7

      From what I know, SAJC's academic standard used to be (10 years ago) on par with NYJC. Currently, NYJC is very much ahead of SA. I heard that there was one year that SA's PW distinction rate is about 35%. Students in SA did complain about teachers not helping the students, but that should be quite some time ago. SA and NY are good JCs, given that their cut-off-points for Science and Arts for JAE 2016 are single digit. Both JCs are not bad in the Science and Arts Stream.

      As for culture, SA has a more Anglican culture where there will be chapels. It has a Christian environment. In NY, there is no religious culture. In SA, I heard that the students play hard. You may want to take a look at their school compound and observe. Notice the field. I would say the students are warm and friendly. In NY, students are very amicable. NY focuses more on the culture of care. The students in NY are treated like a gem. Especially the principal puts emphasis on the students' welfare and well-being. I would say, both JCs have good culture.

      *There was once I took a train from Dakota to Serangoon and then to Boon Keng on a weekday morning. I saw a few NYJC students studying on the train. Of course a few RJC students were also flipping their notes when I was on the train. When I switched to the North East Line, I saw a couple of SAJC students too. Some of them were using their phones, listening to music.

      Teacher wise, both JCs should be the same. But I must recognise that NY teachers are all very committed and will always strive to help the students in whatever way they can. You may want to ask around or any alumni, I believe they will say the same thing. I heard from my friend that the teachers there will go an extra mile for the students.

      In terms of A level results, NY will have an upper hand. For Sports results, SAJC is very strong in Rugby. The boys train very hard and usually meet their opponent: ACS boys. For NYJC, their latest 2016 Sports Results are

      Badminton (Boys) - 4th
      Badminton (Girls) - Top 6
      Basketball (Boys) - 4th
      Basketball (Girls) -Top 8
      Judo - 5 individual Bronzes
      Soccer - Top 8
      Squash (Girls) - 5th
      Table Tennis (Boys) - Runner-up
      Table Tennis (Girls) - 4th
      Tennis (Girls) - Top 6
      Volleyball (Boys) - Runner-up
      Volleyball (Girls) - Champion

      SAJC has no late days whereas NYJC has. School starts at 8.30am for NYJC, 50 minutes later than SAJC which starts at 7.40am.

      Affliated Schools to SAJC (Cutoff points for express year 2016)
      1. Anglican High School: (240)
      2. Christ Church Secondary School (199)
      3. Kuo Chuan Presbyterian Secondary School (232/200(affliation))
      4. Presbyterian High School (233)
      5. St. Andrew's Secondary School (245/189 (affliation))
      6. St. Hilda's Secondary School (229/188 (affliation))
      7. St. Margaret's Secondary School (244/200 (affliation))

      Affliated Schools to NYJC (Cutoff points for express year 2016)
      1. Chung Cheng High School (Main): (239)
      2. Chung Cheng High School (Yishun): (237)

      This will give us a rough guide of the students who may make up largely of the JCs. And notice the affliation portion for SAJC, because a majority of students who enter the sec school, enter via that route.

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        hellohahaha:
        Hi everyone, anyone has a comparison between NYJC and SAJC? In terms of acads, culture, teachers, results, system etc thanks šŸ™‚

        JMHO, SAJC has a more vibrant culture suitable for the more independent learners. The students are generally more sporty and are being treated like young adults. The environment is also less competitive and stressful.

        As for NYJC, the principal displays a very chinese fatherly figure and hence is more protective of its students. They are treated more like secondary school kids whereby there will be many tests conducted throughout the year to make sure they study consistently. Less emphasis is placed on its CCA. Thus they are deemed more studious and dependent. A friend's kid in NYJC was shocked that his friends' parents were robed in to purchase their school uniform, at his age.

        If you prefer your DC to be more independent and all-rounded at this age, SAJC will be a better choice. But if you prefer your DC to be well guided like in secondary school and academic result is all that matters, NYJC will be the one.

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          mindays:


          Affliated Schools to SAJC (Cutoff points for express year 2016)
          1. Anglican High School: (240)
          2. Christ Church Secondary School (199)
          3. Kuo Chuan Presbyterian Secondary School (232/200(affliation))
          4. Presbyterian High School (233)
          5. St. Andrew's Secondary School (245/189 (affliation))
          6. St. Hilda's Secondary School (229/188 (affliation))
          7. St. Margaret's Secondary School (244/200 (affliation))

          Affliated Schools to NYJC (Cutoff points for express year 2016)
          1. Chung Cheng High School (Main): (239)
          2. Chung Cheng High School (Yishun): (237)

          This will give us a rough guide of the students who may make up largely of the JCs. And notice the affliation portion for SAJC, because a majority of students who enter the sec school, enter via that route.
          I do not think this information plays an important role in this discussion as students are admitted into JCs based on merits. There are many who thrive in secondary schools despite getting poor PSLE results.
          For NYJC, students are from more than 80 different secondary schools. Thus there are many students from neighbourhood secondary schools in NYJC too.

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            MyMelborne
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            mindays:

            As for culture, SA has a more Anglican culture where there will be chapels. It has a Christian environment. In NY, there is no religious culture. In SA, I heard that the students play hard. You may want to take a look at their school compound and observe. Notice the field. I would say the students are warm and friendly. In NY, students are very amicable. NY focuses more on the culture of care. The students in NY are treated like a gem. Especially the principal puts emphasis on the students' welfare and well-being. I would say, both JCs have good culture.
            My opinion is that for a mission school such as sajc, the emphasis is usually on balancing character building with academics; whereas in a school with more traditional chinese culture such as nyjc, there will be more emphasis on academic performance and jc's reputation (面子). An nyjc student I know thinks that the teachers are generally strict and fierce and the constant tests are wearing out her enthusiasm in studies & so she does not think that she's being treated like a gem. She thinks there is no life in nyjc and she is being tortured to glorify the jc with excellent A level results & not empowered to learn at her own schedule though she is an independent 5-pointer. It has to depend on what the parents and pupils value in the jc.

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              šŸ˜‚ MyMelborne, perhaps over-protection is a double-edged sword.

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                mindays
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                blurblob11:
                mindays:



                Affliated Schools to SAJC (Cutoff points for express year 2016)
                1. Anglican High School: (240)
                2. Christ Church Secondary School (199)
                3. Kuo Chuan Presbyterian Secondary School (232/200(affliation))
                4. Presbyterian High School (233)
                5. St. Andrew's Secondary School (245/189 (affliation))
                6. St. Hilda's Secondary School (229/188 (affliation))
                7. St. Margaret's Secondary School (244/200 (affliation))

                Affliated Schools to NYJC (Cutoff points for express year 2016)
                1. Chung Cheng High School (Main): (239)
                2. Chung Cheng High School (Yishun): (237)

                This will give us a rough guide of the students who may make up largely of the JCs. And notice the affliation portion for SAJC, because a majority of students who enter the sec school, enter via that route.

                I do not think this information plays an important role in this discussion as students are admitted into JCs based on merits. There are many who thrive in secondary schools despite getting poor PSLE results.
                For NYJC, students are from more than 80 different secondary schools. Thus there are many students from neighbourhood secondary schools in NYJC too.

                While what you say is true, bear in mind the students from these neighbourhood sec schools comprise of the top students there. It's like a gathering of talents from 80+ schools. Imagine most of them getting 7-8 distinctions in O level, the students there are ppl with distinctions

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                  mindays
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                  blurblob11:
                  hellohahaha:

                  Hi everyone, anyone has a comparison between NYJC and SAJC? In terms of acads, culture, teachers, results, system etc thanks šŸ™‚


                  JMHO, SAJC has a more vibrant culture suitable for the more independent learners. The students are generally more sporty and are being treated like young adults. The environment is also less competitive and stressful.

                  As for NYJC, the principal displays a very chinese fatherly figure and hence is more protective of its students. They are treated more like secondary school kids whereby there will be many tests conducted throughout the year to make sure they study consistently. Less emphasis is placed on its CCA. Thus they are deemed more studious and dependent. A friend's kid in NYJC was shocked that his friends' parents were robed in to purchase their school uniform, at his age.

                  If you prefer your DC to be more independent and all-rounded at this age, SAJC will be a better choice. But if you prefer your DC to be well guided like in secondary school and academic result is all that matters, NYJC will be the one.

                  Yes, SA is a vibrant sch and it's colourful too

                  NY also encourages independency such as the organization of class events, CIPs, proposals. It is not really true that they are spoon fed. School uniform wise, I don't see a problem. I think it could be out of his parents' love and concern for their child. CCA wise, you can check out their sports achievement as a reference. It shows how much effort they put in to attain such results. I heard that NY has many tests too! You're right.

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                    mindays
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                    MyMelborne:
                    mindays:


                    As for culture, SA has a more Anglican culture where there will be chapels. It has a Christian environment. In NY, there is no religious culture. In SA, I heard that the students play hard. You may want to take a look at their school compound and observe. Notice the field. I would say the students are warm and friendly. In NY, students are very amicable. NY focuses more on the culture of care. The students in NY are treated like a gem. Especially the principal puts emphasis on the students' welfare and well-being. I would say, both JCs have good culture.

                    My opinion is that for a mission school such as sajc, the emphasis is usually on balancing character building with academics; whereas in a school with more traditional chinese culture such as nyjc, there will be more emphasis on academic performance and jc's reputation (面子). An nyjc student I know thinks that the teachers are generally strict and fierce and the constant tests are wearing out her enthusiasm in studies & so she does not think that she's being treated like a gem. She thinks there is no life in nyjc and she is being tortured to glorify the jc with excellent A level results & not empowered to learn at her own schedule though she is an independent 5-pointer. It has to depend on what the parents and pupils value in the jc.

                    It is very normal for students to feel tortured in JC because it is meant to be. The transition from sec schs to JCs is indeed great. As such, many students have difficulties in their studies. The key to success is consistency. You got to be consistent in your studies and not do last minute revision.
                    While I agree with some parts of your statement, I don't think it generalizes the entire NYJCians there. On the contrary, the majority feels that there is life in NYJC and most of them enjoy their JC days there.

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                      Nestled in a corner of Serangoon, Nanyang Junior College (NYJC) has been quietly growing in popularity. More of its graduates are making it to university, and students are attracted to its flexible curriculum, and principal and staff who listen.


                      The school's cut-off score now places it among the top JCs offering the A-level programme.

                      NYJC principal Kwek Hiok Chuang said his staff have worked hard to build a culture of care.

                      First-year NYJC student Lim Zong Hui, 16, who scored four points at the O levels, was won over by the school after attending its open house.

                      Reference: http://news.asiaone.com/news/singapore/ ... popularity

                      So from this article, we can tell that there is a fair share of NYJCians who got less than 6 points for L1R5. Impressive!

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                        mindays:
                        MyMelborne:


                        My opinion is that for a mission school such as sajc, the emphasis is usually on balancing character building with academics; whereas in a school with more traditional chinese culture such as nyjc, there will be more emphasis on academic performance and jc's reputation (面子). An nyjc student I know thinks that the teachers are generally strict and fierce and the constant tests are wearing out her enthusiasm in studies & so she does not think that she's being treated like a gem. She thinks there is no life in nyjc and she is being tortured to glorify the jc with excellent A level results & not empowered to learn at her own schedule though she is an independent 5-pointer. It has to depend on what the parents and pupils value in the jc.

                        It is very normal for students to feel tortured in JC because it is meant to be. The transition from sec schs to JCs is indeed great. As such, many students have difficulties in their studies. The key to success is consistency. You got to be consistent in your studies and not do last minute revision.
                        While I agree with some parts of your statement, I don't think it generalizes the entire NYJCians there. On the contrary, the majority feels that there is life in NYJC and most of them enjoy their JC days there.

                        The mentioned nyjc student is a consistent and independent worker. She feels that her mental study timetable and plans for her cca are constantly disrupted by the strings of tests. There are times when she feels she needs to catch up with some subjects but are unable to do so as she has to prepare for an upcoming test. The tests results will be included in JC1 promo exam. Also, the frequency of tests are lopsided. Some subjects have many more tests than others and she tends to neglect those with fewer tests. Hence her frustrations. Those days that the majority of nyjcians enjoy may be a thing of the past. The current batch of pupils are the pioneers of a record cop. The leaders and teachers may have set a different strategy now. Having said that, surely there are parents who will embrace or dislike such a system. I am just sharing what I heard and this may not be representative of the majority's view. šŸ˜„

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