Any Updates As To When PSLE T-Scores Will Be Scrapped?

[rains]

UBKmom:

During the old system where there is no IP and all students are posted through JAE to JC, you see a better spread of top student to probably the top 5 JCs and I felt the gap between the top 5 JCs is not as great as now. With the IP system and the big 4 getting on the top students, RI/HCI is practically running their own race, leaving others far behind. This will in turn create the image of elite school and more parents will want to squeeze their children in at all cost.

I don’t believe all schools are good schools but I believe more schools can be top schools with better distribution of top talents. It is always good to give others under existing system not able to enter the big 4 to have the opportunity to do so and benefit from it. With the intention to change DSA further, I guess MOE is trying to moderate the elitism in the system and to create a fairer system for all, meritocracy is good but not absolute meritocracy. All in all, I guess we are in the right direction.

I agree.

Although it's true that having more educated parents have a part to play in creating the increasingly competitive environment for the kids, I feel that the T-score system has perpetuated this competitive streak from students to parents to schools and is responsible for the creation of 'elite schools' and elitism.

I think that T-score is an unhealthy system but we are very used to it and so it's become our comfort zone. The unknown and untested is always daunting but I think the new system is worth a try for the good of most children.

[janet88]

ChiefKiasu:

Actually, isn't the new measurement more granular? Previously, achieving Band 1 is easy... just score 80 and above. Now, 80 to 85 will only put you in AL3, or band 3. Knowing parents, you know they are going to be driving kids to get to 1.

Maybe instead of numbers, they should use the credit rating system. A, AA, AAA. That at least gives the connotation that A is good enough, and AAA is just a bit better than A. Ha.

Mr Ng CM has just increased the anxiety level.

[mum_sugoku]

Looking at the new scoring system, all I feel is "Heng ah, all my kids are done with PSLE already!"


Why? Take my youngest’s case for example, even though she scored 1A (for Chinese) and 3A*, her T-score was high enough to get her into any school of her choice.

However, under the new system, depending on the raw score for her Chinese paper, she could have gotten 2 points (85-89), 3 points (80-84), or even 4 points (75-79) for Chinese, which would then yield a PSLE score of 5, and up to 7 points.

With a score of up to 7 points, would she still be able to get into her dream school, one of the highly sought-after schools, then? And even if she qualifies, she may still be subjected to balloting to get in!

I feel that before MOE implement any major change to the existing system, it should carry out surveys to see if most parents prefer the propose system, or stick to the existing one. I, obviously, prefer the existing t-score system.

[floppy]

ChiefKiasu:

Actually, isn't the new measurement more granular? Previously, achieving Band 1 is easy... just score 80 and above. Now, 80 to 85 will only put you in AL3, or band 3. Knowing parents, you know they are going to be driving kids to get to 1.

Maybe instead of numbers, they should use the credit rating system. A, AA, AAA. That at least gives the connotation that A is good enough, and AAA is just a bit better than A. Ha.

That's why it's all called A (rather than band) now.
AL1, AL2, AL3...
Everyone is a A student

[phtthp]

so far, Moe only announced treatment to the 4 core academic subjects, ie.

AL 1 to AL 8.

But, Moe have not announced in detail, the treatment to following key outstanding issue (s) :

- affliated students : is it minus 1 or minus 2 points ?


- Higher Mother Tongue

For example

If vying for the very last spot in a SAP Secondary school (eg : admission into Catholic High, Dunman High, Hwa Chong, Nanyang Girls, River Valley High, CHIJ St Nicholas girls Secondary, etc)

and say, there are two P6 SG citizenship students, both with the same raw score targeting the same SAP Sec school, but one take Normal Chinese at PSLE, the other take Higher Chinese at Psle, Moe have not announced how these 2 students will be treated, differently.


- 5th subject, have not announced in detail how they going to award points system to Cca, leadership posts (prefect, vice prefect, Cca leader or Captain, class monitor, etc )

[UBKmom]

phtthp:

so far, Moe only announced treatment to the 4 core academic subjects, ie.

AL 1 to AL 8.

But, Moe have not announced in detail, the treatment to following key outstanding issue (s) :

- affliated students : is it minus 1 or minus 2 points ?


- Higher Mother Tongue

For example

If vying for the very last spot in a SAP Secondary school (eg : admission into Catholic High, Dunman High, Hwa Chong, Nanyang Girls, River Valley High, CHIJ St Nicholas girls Secondary, etc)

and say, there are two P6 SG citizenship students, both with the same raw score targeting the same SAP Sec school, but one take Normal Chinese at PSLE, the other take Higher Chinese at Psle, Moe have not announced how these 2 students will be treated, differently.


- 5th subject, have not announced in detail how they going to award points system to Cca, leadership posts (prefect, vice prefect, Cca leader or Captain, class monitor, etc )

The one with Higher Chinese will have priority.

[grimm]

For HCL, MOE has stated on their website on how they will prioritize. It’s on the FAQ of the micro site.

[jetsetter]

Technospaz:

I like how many people out there have assumed that just because of the lower scores for AL1, that there'll be hundreds of 4s fighting for the top Sec Schools.


I think it's going to be quite the opposite. Expect many students in the 10-25 range with just a handful in the sub-10 range, and even less in the sub-5 range.

Precisely. Maj of the 4~9 pointers would have DSA-ed by Aug of 2021 liao, esp after scope of DSA is broadened to include niche programmes in 5 years' time.

[floppy]

Interestingly, MOE has used an example for the treatment of HCL of a score between 7-9 in their admission to a SAP.

[MyPillow]

floppy:

Interestingly, MOE has used an example for the treatment of HCL of a score between 7-9 in their admission to a SAP.

Copied fr MOE site:

{When applying to SAP schools, HCL students will continue to receive an advantage.

Although HCL results do not count towards the PSLE Score, if students with the same PSLE Score are vying for limited places in the same SAP school, those with better HCL grades will be allocated a place ahead of other students. This applies before the tie-breakers for S1 posting. }


I din know this too until last yr, when my ds classmates got same T score, apply same SAP sch, the one with HCL got in . Cut off point last yr was their T score.