Any Updates As To When PSLE T-Scores Will Be Scrapped?
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pirate:
work on the papers, e.g. planting 'killer' qns (ranging from levels 1-5 difficulty) in each section to sieve out the best from the better and good? :yikes:jetsetter:
10% is a lot. Poor kids who get knocked out due to a55luck.
The only way to reduce balloting is to make the sorting tool finer. And then we end up merely transferring the luck of the computerized balloting to the luck of whether the 'right' questions come out in the paper for the child.
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Technospaz:
mum_sugoku:
In my kid's case, except for the eldest who's very weak in Chinese (almost failed) and needed tuition in Chinese, they've never had any tuition. (Myself am unfamiliar with their school's syllabus and so couldn't help them too. I give their dedicated school teachers 100% credit for my kids' 'A's and 'A*'s in PSLE
). In fact, their pri school teacher told us, very proudly :evil: , that most top scorers in their batch had no tuition too.
I seriously doubt that
From what I've heard, almost every kid has tuition these days.
it's a normal neighbourhood school and so, actually, there weren't many top scorers (260+) - by \"most\", it's just a few only.. Anyway, that's what their teacher told me when I thanked them for my kids' good results .
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mum_sugoku:
Technospaz:
[quote=\"mum_sugoku\"]In my kid's case, except for the eldest who's very weak in Chinese (almost failed) and needed tuition in Chinese, they've never had any tuition. (Myself am unfamiliar with their school's syllabus and so couldn't help them too. I give their dedicated school teachers 100% credit for my kids' 'A's and 'A*'s in PSLE
). In fact, their pri school teacher told us, very proudly :evil: , that most top scorers in their batch had no tuition too.
I seriously doubt that
From what I've heard, almost every kid has tuition these days. it's a normal neighbourhood school and so, actually, there weren't many top scorers (260+) - by \"most\", it's just a few only.. Anyway, that's what their teacher told me when I thanked them for my kids' good results .[/quote]Haha I think that should be the focus. Tuition is intended to supplement where a student is weak but not to try and create a super-student. I'm glad your child did well sans tuition - that's something to be really proud off given how rare it is in our society today.
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floppy:
Game theory, enrichment, tuition...Not just in play in Singaporeans' lives. It's in other people's lives too, from North America and UK to North Asia, HK & TW included.superkiasudad:
After observing the level of interest in this whole AL grading on display here in Kiasuparents. I told my son's math tutor, Mr Zhou, that his centre should start offering a course on \"Game Theory\" for all the parents of this batch of primary 1 students. We had a good laugh at the absurdity of it.
Game Theory is in play, knowingly or unknowingly for most people, for most part of our lives.
Just live with it...we need to compete w others in this global village anyway.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2048094/Meet-parents-prepared-to-children-grammar-school.html -
jetsetter:
work on the papers, e.g. planting 'killer' qns (ranging from levels 1-5 difficulty) in each section to sieve out the best from the better and good? :yikes:pirate:
[quote=\"jetsetter\"]10% is a lot. Poor kids who get knocked out due to a55luck.
The only way to reduce balloting is to make the sorting tool finer. And then we end up merely transferring the luck of the computerized balloting to the luck of whether the 'right' questions come out in the paper for the child.[/quote]actually it seems fair with a few killer qns to sieve out the the finest of finest
based on sch teachings on syllabus, kids should be taught to know how to do abt 80 to 85% of national exam- the rest of killer qn is used to identify \"diamond\" or \"platinum\" -
MyPillow:
The 'killer' qns should be used to identify who had enrichment, and carry negative marks if answered correctly. :evil:
actually it seems fair with a few killer qns to sieve out the the finest of finestjetsetter:
work on the papers, e.g. planting 'killer' qns (ranging from levels 1-5 difficulty) in each section to sieve out the best from the better and good? :yikes:
based on sch teachings on syllabus, kids should be taught to know how to do abt 80 to 85% of national exam- the rest of killer qn is used to identify \"diamond\" or \"platinum\" :siam:
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No matter how MOE tweak the PSLE system, stress level among parents will always remain because everyone is still eyeing for the ultimate prize of getting their kids into the top secondary schools. As we all know that kiasuism is part of our Singaporean identity and culture, so no matter how the system is tweaked, kiasuism will still lead us back to the rat race of trying to compete for the limited place in elite schools. So instead of tweaking PSLE, perhaps MOE could invest more resources in improving the standard, facilities and branding of less popular secondary schools.
Ultimately parents will need to be mindful that its the kids who are carrying the weight and taking all the physical and mental "abuses" from extra classes, tuition, great expectation etc and what work for one kid might not work for the others. -
pirate:
The 'killer' qns should be used to identify who had enrichment, and carry negative marks if answered correctly. :evil:
actually it seems fair with a few killer qns to sieve out the the finest of finestMyPillow:
[quote=\"jetsetter\"]
work on the papers, e.g. planting 'killer' qns (ranging from levels 1-5 difficulty) in each section to sieve out the best from the better and good? :yikes:
based on sch teachings on syllabus, kids should be taught to know how to do abt 80 to 85% of national exam- the rest of killer qn is used to identify \"diamond\" or \"platinum\" :siam:[/quote]In PSLE 2009, the killer questions (at least 5 of them) were 'planted' in Math. Those who are well-versed in Math Olympiad questions (from enrichment classes) were able to score well. It brought much stress to the batch taking PSLE 2010 but the 'math killers' didn't appear from then. Is History going to repeat itself and bring back the stress?
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floppy:
When did the G ever seek our advice before announcing and implementing policies?Technospaz:
[quote=\"lee_yl\"]From what I see right now, out of 100 votes, only 8 think that the new banding will help to reduce PSLE stress. I am not sure how the govt conducted the survey before announcing and implementing the new banding system with balloting and how they ascertain that the majority of the parents welcome these changes.
Ok, so 8 folks here are from MOE
I don't recall them doing it with the extremely popular population white paper either.
It's a nanny state.
1. The G is always right.
2. If you think the G is wrong, see 1.
(P/S: there's probably an Internet meme that says 70% welcome and sarpok these changes )
:evil:[/quote]Yep. Exactly 69.9% or approx 70% is the right figure! -
Veyron:
With all due respect you are giving too much credit to parents.No matter how MOE tweak the PSLE system, stress level among parents will always remain because everyone is still eyeing for the ultimate prize of getting their kids into the top secondary schools. As we all know that kiasuism is part of our Singaporean identity and culture, so no matter how the system is tweaked, kiasuism will still lead us back to the rat race of trying to compete for the limited place in elite schools. So instead of tweaking PSLE, perhaps MOE could invest more resources in improving the standard, facilities and branding of less popular secondary schools.
Ultimately parents will need to be mindful that its the kids who are carrying the weight and taking all the physical and mental \"abuses\" from extra classes, tuition, great expectation etc and what work for one kid might not work for the others.
if MOE invest more resources in improving the standard, facilities and branding of less popular secondary schools, then I happy other people children study there, my one goes to the top top wan
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