Any Updates As To When PSLE T-Scores Will Be Scrapped?
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mum_sugoku:
1. I do not agree with the implied view that there are only 2 good secondary schools in Singapore and going to every school other than those 2 is somehow a 'sacrifice' or a disgrace to the family name or somehow is necessarily a disadvantage.
We may mock parents who do that.. but, what if it's truly the case? You, too, acknowledge that it's not an impossible scenario, don't you?
We are talking about fairness here: one who has similar or even better academic performance (ability) than another being disadvantaged simply because of the way the system works, is it fair to him?
While I believe that such \"sway\" students will be exceptions rather than the norm, but does it mean that since only few will \"kenna\", it's ok to sacrifice them \"for the greater good\" (even out the spread)?
And for top and bottom tier students, the difference in points does not only mean the number of schools they get to choose from, but also mean one get to do IP curriculum or not, or one gets into normal stream or express. For borderline students, maybe it's truly better if they go through, respectively, the 'O' level route, or normal stream. But if the student belongs to the \"my 8 points is truelly better than your 5,6,or 7 point\" minority, it's just not fair to them lah.
(PS Thanks jetsetter for the information.
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2. I do not agree that not getting into IP is likewise a 'sacrifice' or a disgrace to the family name or somehow is necessarily a disadvantage.
I come from the generation when there were more than 2 'top' schools. And back then, nobody really cared that much whether you were in RI or ACS or Chinese High or Nanyang, and nobody was bothered whether your school was 'topper' than mine. There was certainly no 'die die' also must get into RI. Our current PM went to Catholic High, not RI.
So, no. I don't agree with your 'fair'/'not fair' concern. In fact, I think the current obsession with this or that school must be better because it has a better cut-off point, and so die-die must get into it is an unhealthy attitude. I am happy that MOE is taking steps to correct it.
I do, however, concede that the express/NA/normal sorting may need some tweaking for those borderline cases, unless MOE's experience is that those borderline cases who currently manage to squeak through are struggling. -
cherryc:
If a kid gets demoralized and decides to waste his life away because instead of RI he got posted to Catholic High, I think the problem probably lies with what sort of thinking the parents had been imbuing him with. :siao:That is provided the real talents with higher raw scores/ 4 pointers who didn't get in their first 2choices don't get lost in the higher-point schools and become demoralised and realised no point study hard since everything in life seems to depend on luck and get wasted/influenced badly for life......
Interesting to see how it will turn out. By the way any pri school in the world using such an ingenious method of balloting.... -
For O levels to JC posting…ties also ballot right and second choice kicks in?
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In the event of balloting :
if 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 pointers in AL scheme get both (Geppers & Mainstream students) randomly balloted into the various IP Secondary schools, spread them all out even distribution, next time gradually over several years,
Eunoia JC, Victoria JC, National JC, Temasek JC, Dunman High, River Valley High, slowly … Will be on par in terms of GCE A level results, with RI & Hwa Chong. -
phtthp:
Is this not the happy ending for everyone to have more choices of schools to go to?In the event of balloting :
if 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 pointers in AL scheme get both (Geppers & Mainstream students) randomly balloted into the various IP Secondary schools, next time gradually over several years,
Eunoia JC, Victoria JC, National JC, Temasek JC, Dunman High, River Valley High, slowly ... Will be on par in terms of GCE A level results, with RI & Hwa Chong. -
As mentioned in my earlier post, we should not overemphasize about academic results.
Every student starts from same starting point during secondary education regardless of his/her PSLE results.
Many cases that those didn’t score well during PSLE (scored 199 or below, 160+ or below, went to school with low COP), studied Express/N(A)/N(T). Subsequently, they performed very well during secondary and tertiary education. Some scored extremely well (above T-score 260), enrolled to IP, kept on failing tests/examinations during 1st 2 years, were demoted to Express stream.
Some students/undergraduates are referred by psychiatrists for depression treatment, some even try to end their lives as they lack of resilience in the face of adversity. In fact, 他/她们不是输在起跑线，但却无法到达终点。 -
Imp75:
What's worrying is the 64 mark scorer. From a \"sure-express stream\" in present system to \"potentially NA stream\"....I think the govt probably need to look hard at the broader band of 45-64?
Maybe they should split the 45-64 into 45-54 and 55-64. This is the borderline-pass sort of marks where students can probably benefit most from encouragement to improve.
Crawling up from say 46 to 55 is an achievement and can be a powerful motivator, which can then be a stepping stone towards 65. Having to get from 46 to 65 may just look like a bridge too far. -
Imp75:
Agree! At the moment, it seems like the G is focusing mainly on the cream of the crop. However, as far as PSLE is concerned, students of all calibre will be stretched and stressed. The new system is of no help to the weaker pupils. Instead, it looks like the G is set to optimise its ITE intake.I think parents should just chill....there are enough Top Schools to go around if parents extend their binoculars to look further out....
What's worrying is the 64 mark scorer. From a \"sure-express stream\" in present system to \"potentially NA stream\"....I think the govt probably need to look hard at the broader band of 45-64? -
pirate:
cherryc:
If a kid gets demoralized and decides to waste his life away because instead of RI he got posted to Catholic High, I think the problem probably lies with what sort of thinking the parents had been imbuing him with. :siao:
Truly, that way madness lies.....
Indeed, it has been inferred several times, we are the greatest influence on how our children's expectations and how they respond to adversity and disappointment. -
\"Acting Minister for Education (Schools) Ng Chee Meng told the media that the new system of eight ALs afforded enough differentiation to match students to the school that suits them, but it was not so broad that there would have to be too much balloting. It is estimated that fewer than one in 10 places will be subject to balloting.\"
Source: http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/e ... rade-bands
To me, there is a difference between SUBJECTED to balloting and AFFECTED by balloting.
10% subject to balloting does not mean they would not get a school of one of their choices because balloting is not necessarily required in every choice.
If a child does not get any school of the 6 choices, then that is affected by balloting and we need to know why.
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