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    8 Junior Colleges are Merging? Rumors or Reality?

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • phtthpP Offline
      phtthp
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      janet88:
      Jennifer:


      Interesting that MOE \"will ask\", instead of \"instructs\".

      because MOE is dealing with RI which is one of the top JC. strangely, why would MOE be asking RI and not other JCs like st andrew's/CJC to increase the intake instead?

      yes, strange

      If RI were to increase intake beyond 1200 students per A level batch, maybe those with 5 points, can now enter RI. Then release the vacancies at SAJC, CJC, etc, so that those with above 15 points, can enter.

      But if admit more students into RI, standard may drop ?

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      • floppyF Offline
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        lee_yl:
        janet88:

        [quote=\"Jennifer\"]
        Interesting that MOE \"will ask\", instead of \"instructs\".

        because MOE is dealing with RI which is one of the top JC. strangely, why would MOE be asking RI and not other JCs like st andrew's/CJC to increase the intake instead?

        RI is an independent school so enjoys full autonomy.

        But if minister \"asks\" and their principal says no, probably we will see a new principal.[/quote]MOE will \"ask\" and RI will agree. As per my reply to jetsetter, the devil is always in the detail. An increase of one is still an increase.

        Even if RI realistically increases the intake by 30 (or even 60) per cohort, their COP will only change marginally (+1) but most likely, it will not change at all. It's wishful thinking if parents are hoping for an easier access to some of these colleges because they have \"increased\" their intake.

        Sadly, students who are scoring 15-20 points will be those most affected. No matter how you massage it, the remaining colleges will not be able to absorb the capacity lost by the 4 JCs. Effectively, the message will be for students with these scores to look elsewhere - poly or MI.

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        • lee_ylL Offline
          lee_yl
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          Just wondering aloud, if EJC were to take over one of those existing sites of the soon to be merged JCs, govt could have saved a tidy sum $XXmil. Furthermore, that current piece of land in Bishan probably had lots of constraints in construction.


          MOE also did not share what they are going to do with the various sites that will be vacant soon. Take Kim Seng Secondary and old Gong Shan Primary, for example, closed down for 20 years, the sites (in prime district 09) are still waiting for redevelopment.

          I could have missed it but did MOE share some figures on the dwindling intakes of the various JCs to make their case more convincing. How many students will be affected? Why choose to close down these specific 4 and not others? Why merge and shift to an older JC (like AJC and YJC) when the other merged JCs are newer? There are issues of accountability and communications to the public. Since the government’s last election victory in 2015, they have largely forgotten about all these.

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          • janet88J Offline
            janet88
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            lee_yl:

            I could have missed it but did MOE share some figures on the dwindling intakes of the various JCs to make their case more convincing. How many students will be affected? Why choose to close down these specific 4 and not others? Why merge and shift to an older JC (like AJC and YJC) when the other merged JCs are newer? There are issues of accountability and communications to the public. Since the government's last election victory in 2015, they have largely forgotten about all these.
            after the election victory, the govt has forgotten just about everything.

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            • floppyF Offline
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              lee_yl:
              Just wondering aloud, if EJC were to take over one of those existing sites of the soon to be merged JCs, govt could have saved a tidy sum $XXmil. Furthermore, that current piece of land in Bishan probably had lots of constraints in construction.


              MOE also did not share what they are going to do with the various sites that will be vacant soon. Take Kim Seng Secondary and old Gong Shan Primary, for example, closed down for 20 years, the sites (in prime district 09) are still waiting for redevelopment.

              I could have missed it but did MOE share some figures on the dwindling intakes of the various JCs to make their case more convincing. How many students will be affected? Why choose to close down these specific 4 and not others? Why merge and shift to an older JC (like AJC and YJC) when the other merged JCs are newer? There are issues of accountability and communications to the public. Since the government's last election victory in 2015, they have largely forgotten about all these.
              Valid points but I doubt we will hear about them soon. Maybe wait till GE2020 😉

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              • phtthpP Offline
                phtthp
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                never name a Junior College after HDB area name, for 3 out of 4 JCs that go down in history, 3 are named after HDB areas :-

                (Tampines, Jurong, Serangoon, Innova) JCs

                Who remain ?
                (Meridien, Pioneer, Anderson, Yishun) JCs

                http://m.todayonline.com/singapore/amid-rumours-and-online-leak-first-ever-jc-merger-mixed-response

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                • sharonkhooS Offline
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                  janet88:
                  RI would be asked to increase intake...but the quality of students also plays a part so that RI quality will not dilute. What is the level RI is willing to decrease if asked to take in more students?

                  RI does not set its COP; applicants set the COP. If suddenly only those with 20 points apply to enter RI, then the COP will be 20!

                  As for dilution, there is minimal difference, if any, between students with 1-2 points difference in L1R5 score, so even if the COP falls by a point or 2, it doesn't make any difference to the school. The current COP is set by the available places.

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                  • phtthpP Offline
                    phtthp
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                    Both Dunman High and Temasek JC are IP JCs, both located in the east.


                    As an IP JC, Temasek A level results : have room for improvement.

                    Do u think one day, is possible to merge TJC, into Dunman High ?
                    That means, at PSLE, merge the IP batch of students, from TJC, into Dunman High ?
                    After all, TJC IP batch intake is small, around 150 P6 psle students. Can ask Dunman High to absorb these 150 IP students, expand her intake ?

                    Then, as for the remaining JAE (O level students) from TJC : merge them into Victoria JC ?
                    in other words, increase the intake for VJC, for JAE students. After that, no more TJC, also go down in history.
                    This scenario : possible to happen one day, to TJC ?

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                    • starlight1968sgS Offline
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                      I don’t understand why old JCs like Jurong and Tampines will go into history

                      They were around for many years and had a rich history

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                      • floppyF Offline
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                        starlight1968sg:
                        I don't understand why old JCs like Jurong and Tampines will go into history

                        They were around for many years and had a rich history
                        Easy to answer that.
                        Someone must go.
                        You can choose difficult options with many stakeholders, including some of the most difficult people around, like religious bodies, affiliated schools (students and parents), famous alumni, etc or just choose options that are easier.

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