2018 P1 registration exercise for 2019 intake
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qms:
You can withdraw from the P2B school when P2C registration is still ongoing. However, if you eventually do not get into your P2C school, you cannot go back to the school which you previously registered at earlier phases to reclaim your spot.syteh:
Does a withdrawal take place only when a phase remains open or can it also take place when the window period for registration is closed?
I am trying to assess my chances of balloting success.
I do think that this scenario though hypothetically possible is very unlikely for Phase 2B onwards. These are the phases where one gets the child in without any current or previous connection to the school. Tactic is to use earlier phases to first get an assured place before using phases 2B onwards to go for the one which one truly desires. E.g. I register son at my old school, which is a quite renowned school, or I get place under phase 1 where elder sibling is studying at. But for whatever reasons, the school is not my first choice but what I can only enter my son into as I do not have any prior or existing relations with the school.
From phase 2B onwards, I can enter son into my first choice school as it is only from this phase that people without connections can start registering, I got option of withdrawing to go there, as long as I am sure it is 100%. But phase 2B is the first phase where one can start doing this and I don't see how if you had reasoned and thought and planned to secure a Phase 2B place will give that up for another 2 weeks of sleepless nights and greater stress with greater potential disappointment. Kinda like made wedding plans and bought house and invited everyone for wedding dinner only to turn a run away bride at the altar, realising that this is not your one true love scenario. -
TheTeds:
Typically i would empower the child and let him make his own decisions with the parents supporting his decision.Any one for RVPS? What’s your take:
Daddy is not comfortable that the school will be affect by the demolition and reconstruction of condo next to the school on top of the current condo construction in front of the school. Noise, dust and mozzie. But my boy wants rvps because his friends are there.
The dust, noise and and all will affect the school environment, then explain to your child and explore other alternatives.
If you are within 1km of the two ACS or SJI you can consider these schools. Even SJI 1-2km may be safe. -
Peiliang:
You can withdraw from the P2B school when P2C registration is still ongoing. However, if you eventually do not get into your P2C school, you cannot go back to the school which you previously registered at earlier phases to reclaim your spot.qms:
[quote=\"syteh\"]Does a withdrawal take place only when a phase remains open or can it also take place when the window period for registration is closed?
I am trying to assess my chances of balloting success.
I do think that this scenario though hypothetically possible is very unlikely for Phase 2B onwards. These are the phases where one gets the child in without any current or previous connection to the school. Tactic is to use earlier phases to first get an assured place before using phases 2B onwards to go for the one which one truly desires. E.g. I register son at my old school, which is a quite renowned school, or I get place under phase 1 where elder sibling is studying at. But for whatever reasons, the school is not my first choice but what I can only enter my son into as I do not have any prior or existing relations with the school.
From phase 2B onwards, I can enter son into my first choice school as it is only from this phase that people without connections can start registering, I got option of withdrawing to go there, as long as I am sure it is 100%. But phase 2B is the first phase where one can start doing this and I don't see how if you had reasoned and thought and planned to secure a Phase 2B place will give that up for another 2 weeks of sleepless nights and greater stress with greater potential disappointment. Kinda like made wedding plans and bought house and invited everyone for wedding dinner only to turn a run away bride at the altar, realising that this is not your one true love scenario.[/quote]The rationale of parents depends on how they look at things and plan it out.
The most likely phase someone will give up is probably phase 2A as it tends to be further from home. But as I am updating the table and analysis, I also realized that throughout all the phases, there were withdrawals at each phase. I saw already some withdrawal, potentially in school whereby the child went through by way of a balloting in the earlier phase then proceed to give it up for a later phase.
Technically speaking, someone can:
- secure phase 1 and give it up and take up 2A1
- and then give up the 2A1 for a spot in 2A2 - and then further give up the 2A2 for 2B
- and also then proceed to give up the 2B for 2C spot
- and also give up the 2C spot to go for 2Cs
- and finally give up the 2Cs and let MOE decide which school their kids can go to.
It’s the case of - “if you only have 1 choice, your plan is clear, it’s only when you have tons and tons of options and choices, that become complex” -
Thats why i’m wondering why isn’t MOE implementing the “once registered no withdrawal” where everyone is only given 1 chance. But i guess they dont see things like we see it. Resulting in parents hogging places in earlier phases.
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The most common reason for withdrawal from Phase 1 or Phase 2A is the long traveling distance. If the parents are monitoring and see that chances are good for a nearer school at 2B or 2C, typically they will switch school, thus freeing up the slots for others.
This is a justifiable reason and in line with MOE’s stance that one should choose a school that is nearer the home, for the long term well-being of the child.
I am neutral on the need to scrap this withdrawal method. -
Peiliang:
What you said may be true, but syteh asked if a withdrawal could be made in subsequent phases instead of during the phase itself. It is incorrect to say that parents can't withdraw in P2C if they had confirmed places in P2B. We are not privy to reasons why anyone with confirmed place in P2B would want to withdraw in P2C. So, I was just replying to the question.I do think that this scenario though hypothetically possible is very unlikely for Phase 2B onwards. These are the phases where one gets the child in without any current or previous connection to the school. Tactic is to use earlier phases to first get an assured place before using phases 2B onwards to go for the one which one truly desires. E.g. I register son at my old school, which is a quite renowned school, or I get place under phase 1 where elder sibling is studying at. But for whatever reasons, the school is not my first choice but what I can only enter my son into as I do not have any prior or existing relations with the school.
From phase 2B onwards, I can enter son into my first choice school as it is only from this phase that people without connections can start registering, I got option of withdrawing to go there, as long as I am sure it is 100%. But phase 2B is the first phase where one can start doing this and I don't see how if you had reasoned and thought and planned to secure a Phase 2B place will give that up for another 2 weeks of sleepless nights and greater stress with greater potential disappointment. Kinda like made wedding plans and bought house and invited everyone for wedding dinner only to turn a run away bride at the altar, realising that this is not your one true love scenario. -
Orb:
Thats why i’m wondering why isn’t MOE implementing the “once registered no withdrawal” where everyone is only given 1 chance. But i guess they dont see things like we see it. Resulting in parents hogging places in earlier phases.
Usually I don’t want to give my opinion on the system, I am the type of adopting a strategy within the guideline so if one keep switching guideline, I have to plan again.
On the matter of withdrawal, i would suggest that if there is a case of balloting within that phase that the child was successfully balloted, one will not be allowed to withdraw. -
Lexy:
Your suggested premise sounds fair enough. Winning the seat thru a ballot means they deprived someone else of the seat. So they should not be allowed to withdraw & give up that balloted seat later on.Orb:
Thats why i’m wondering why isn’t MOE implementing the “once registered no withdrawal” where everyone is only given 1 chance. But i guess they dont see things like we see it. Resulting in parents hogging places in earlier phases.
Usually I don’t want to give my opinion on the system, I am the type of adopting a strategy within the guideline so if one keep switching guideline, I have to plan again.
On the matter of withdrawal, i would suggest that if there is a case of balloting within that phase that the child was successfully balloted, one will not be allowed to withdraw. -
Lexy:
You can withdraw from the P2B school when P2C registration is still ongoing. However, if you eventually do not get into your P2C school, you cannot go back to the school which you previously registered at earlier phases to reclaim your spot.qms:
[quote=\"syteh\"]Does a withdrawal take place only when a phase remains open or can it also take place when the window period for registration is closed?
I am trying to assess my chances of balloting success.
I do think that this scenario though hypothetically possible is very unlikely for Phase 2B onwards. These are the phases where one gets the child in without any current or previous connection to the school. Tactic is to use earlier phases to first get an assured place before using phases 2B onwards to go for the one which one truly desires. E.g. I register son at my old school, which is a quite renowned school, or I get place under phase 1 where elder sibling is studying at. But for whatever reasons, the school is not my first choice but what I can only enter my son into as I do not have any prior or existing relations with the school.
From phase 2B onwards, I can enter son into my first choice school as it is only from this phase that people without connections can start registering, I got option of withdrawing to go there, as long as I am sure it is 100%. But phase 2B is the first phase where one can start doing this and I don't see how if you had reasoned and thought and planned to secure a Phase 2B place will give that up for another 2 weeks of sleepless nights and greater stress with greater potential disappointment. Kinda like made wedding plans and bought house and invited everyone for wedding dinner only to turn a run away bride at the altar, realising that this is not your one true love scenario.[/quote]The rationale of parents depends on how they look at things and plan it out.
The most likely phase someone will give up is probably phase 2A as it tends to be further from home. But as I am updating the table and analysis, I also realized that throughout all the phases, there were withdrawals at each phase. I saw already some withdrawal, potentially in school whereby the child went through by way of a balloting in the earlier phase then proceed to give it up for a later phase.
Technically speaking, someone can:
- secure phase 1 and give it up and take up 2A1
- and then give up the 2A1 for a spot in 2A2 - and then further give up the 2A2 for 2B
- and also then proceed to give up the 2B for 2C spot
- and also give up the 2C spot to go for 2Cs
- and finally give up the 2Cs and let MOE decide which school their kids can go to.
It’s the case of - “if you only have 1 choice, your plan is clear, it’s only when you have tons and tons of options and choices, that become complex”[/quote]
Too stressful to be playing this game for a month for me to be honest, although I might be a beneficiary of withdrawals as I come under 1-2km priority and yet happened to scrape through without balloting in MBS, as 31 places became available instead of 29.
A part of me is curious as to how many musical chair parents will be that sick to secure in Phase 2B, only to turn to other target in Phase 2C and risk going to 2C(S), given that one has got years to plan a precise strategy instead of going into this lottery mode. But another part of me is just glad that I'm out of this game and got my life back myself and really just wish everyone all e best of luck.
Whoever is upset with the tactics and tricks played by other parents, hope that one can just look at it holistically as we are ultimately all (kiasu) parents that wish for the best for our kids.
Don't blame the players. Blame the game... (Maybe can blame the game masters who said \"Every school a good school\" but never follow thru too)
Cheers. -
Will there be chance to ballot for Mee Toh in 2C as i stay between 1-2 km? Thinking to try Mee Toh in 2C, if cant get then go for Waterway in 2Cs
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