JC or Poly?

[sharonkhoo]

floppy:

There’s a difference between disliking numbers (numerals) and disliking math concepts. Hence, when you dislike maths, which of the two are you really disliking?

In my case - both? Numbers don't make a whole of sense to me beyond the basics (even though I got an A in A level Maths which I mostly did by rote learning and many hours of practice). For more complex mathematical concepts, I generally have to \"translate\" them to words to really understand them! My husband (who is a mathematician) has long figured out that I just can't really \"see\" things in numbers, while it comes naturally to him. My eyes glaze over when I see a page of numbers, and I have to force myself to go through them if I really have to. So asking me to take Accountancy was a crazy idea.

[sharonkhoo]

Clar06:

I am not so sure, but I heard that if a student got posted into a JC, he can still switch to a poly course within the first month if he feels JC is not right?

If things haven't changed in the past 5 years, that's true. My daughter had several classmates who started in MI in Feb, then switched to poly in Apr. But I don't know how they went about getting those places in poly - maybe they had to appeal? And it would be dependent on whether there was a vacancy in that course. Some did 1 year in MI, then switched during the 2nd year - presumably they applied to poly during their 1st year.

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[isetan]

floppy:

slmkhoo:

[quote=\"floppy\"]That said, the problem with Business and Accountancy, the 10th percentile IGP is ABB/B and AAB/C (using NUS as a reference). So she will need to score very well, no matter her subjects combination.

Well, the hope is that since she has dropped Sciences, her 3 H2 subjects will be more suited to her abilities and interests, and she can do better. That's what I told my daughter when she went to MI, and although she didn't do exceedingly well, she got into a course which she is interested in. A great relief to me!

Frankly, would a person who doesn't like Maths want to study Accountancy? I remember having a big fight with my father over this when I was 19. I still don't like numbers now, and can't imagine how I would have survived if I took Accountancy.

There’s a difference between disliking numbers (numerals) and disliking math concepts. Hence, when you dislike maths, which of the two are you really disliking?

As for the 3H2 subjects, based on her subject scores, I can identify Lit as one. Can’t think of another 2 strong ones. It will most likely have to be Econs and sometime else. MI has the ‘advantage’ of offering POA, but today’s JC no longer has the commerce stream.

The challenge for going to JC isn’t about getting in... it’s about doing well enough to get something out of it, especially if the aim is for popular courses.[/quote]Floppy,
U are absolutely right. Studying in JC is totally different from secondary school times. Any subjects are going to be tough. If one scores below average, it left with little choice for uni courses’ selection.

[phtthp]

isetan:

floppy:

The challenge for going to JC isn’t about getting in... it’s about doing well enough to get something out of it, especially if the aim is for popular courses.

Floppy,
U are absolutely right. Studying in JC is totally different from secondary school times. Any subjects are going to be tough. If one scores below average, it left with little choice for uni courses’ selection.

The reality is

Those who go to Polytechnic, graduated with a Diploma, with skills relevant in an industry -
Can still find a job.

However, those who graduated with an A-level certificate, from a JC -
Cannot find a job, unless they proceed onward to a recognised university.

So, if one don't do well at A-level, cannot enter into a proper university, then they have wasted 2 years of their precious golden time of youth, in a JC.

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[phtthp]

octoberbaby:

For poly students to enter uni has to be top 5% whole cohort one. Otherwise CMI. Stuck at diploma level. Pursuing degree wil be depend on parents $..

Agree

If go Poly after that so easily can enter into NUS, NTU, then why are there still so many Junior Colleges, around ?

[sharonkhoo]

phtthp:

octoberbaby:

For poly students to enter uni has to be top 5% whole cohort one. Otherwise CMI. Stuck at diploma level. Pursuing degree wil be depend on parents $..

Agree

If go Poly after that so easily can enter into NUS, NTU, then why are there still so many Junior Colleges, around ?

I think that's a rather narrow view of the differences between A levels and poly. There isn't any magic that makes it easier for someone to go to university by taking A levels rather than going to poly, or vice versa. The poly students who make it to university are probably the ones who would have made it through A levels anyway; and the ones who did well at A levels would probably have done well in poly too. There will be exceptions either way, of course. You make it sound as if most people would choose the poly route over JC if it were perceived to be easier to get to university that way; I think there are many who prefer the more traditional academic route over the more hands-on and practical even if it seems tougher.

[jtoh]

phtthp:

octoberbaby:

For poly students to enter uni has to be top 5% whole cohort one. Otherwise CMI. Stuck at diploma level. Pursuing degree wil be depend on parents $..

Agree

If go Poly after that so easily can enter into NUS, NTU, then why are there still so many Junior Colleges, around ?

According to 2016 statistics, 34% of local uni admissions were polytechnic students, and 20% of poly students got a place in uni. These are 2016 stats. Numbers may have changed in the last two years.

No doubt the numbers are boosted by expansion in intake by UniSIM and SIT, but it still means that more poly students are getting a degree after their poly diplomas.

[lee_yl]

Heard it is getting more competitive to get admitted into a full-time course in NUS/NTU via Poly nowadays. A few diploma holders in DH’s office had good Poly results but could only get admission into full time courses in SIM/SIT/SUTD or part-time degree courses in NTU/NUS. Don’t say the govt never give you a chance to study in the Uni hor.


From a statistical perspective, the JC route is definitely easier to get into NTU/NUS. But again, the A level route is also not easy as you will be fitting the A-level curve with the TOP students. Like two of my relatives, they didn’t do well enough at A levels and had to go back to the Poly did well before moving on to Uni.