2019 P1 Registration Exercise for 2020 In-take

[sparkling]

Thank you for your reply.

This was brought up for discussion.
No one can predict how divisive things will become compared to the current system.
And PRs can make the decision to become Singapore citizens.

[Orb]

sparkling\" post_id=\"1922817\" time=\"1564106799\" user_id=\"21001:

How do you define absolute priority?

I am not sure if this has ever been raised before.

PR children can get into phase 1 of their school of choice easily if they also have a PR sibling already in their school of choice.
This means that a spot has been given to a PR student over a Singapore citizen only eligible for a later phase.

This system applies to all earlier phases for PR children over a Singapore citizen for a later phase but not eligible for the earlier phase of the same school.

Phases 2A1 and 2A2 may not necessarily have balloting.
It’s only phase 2B and especially the most intense phase 2C that has balloting.

So Singapore citizens in phase 2B and phase 2C has already lost spots to PRs in earlier phases.

Is this really absolute priority for Singapore citizens if a PR child takes a spot in an earlier phase of registration resulting in a SG citizen not getting a spot?

Typically, no numbers have been released before of how many PRs take P1 spots from citizens.
It may be very low or it may be significant.

It is not unfathomable that PRs have siblings in school, are alumni members, serve on school boards, are ex-students, staff of school, have siblings who are no longer students of the school. PRs would have taken spots away from citizens in phase 2B and 2C.

Yes, PRs contribute to Singapore. Singapore citizens also contribute to their own country.

The Singapore citizen child (and parents) in such situations are often forgotten because life goes on.

What are your thoughts?

I personally think that the SCs have themselves to blame as they go for the hot popular schools in 2B and 2C then when unsuccessful, say the system is unfair. Popular schools already majority are SCs, some hardly any PRs.

PRs go for the unpopular schools and then in years to come they get priority in earlier phases. Nothing wrong what. Afterall, the schools not popular and got plenty of vacancies left.

[firstda]

The assumption is the PR child already has siblings in the popular school. However, I think it is very difficult to get the 1st PR child into the popular school.


Unless the 1st child is a SC then 2nd child is a PR.

[sparkling]

Thank you for your email.

There will always be PRs in schools. PRs can still be alumni, ex-students, have siblings who are ex-students, staff of school.
Define unpopular schools. Neighbourhood schools still have to ballot under phase 2C.
PRs may not stop popping up in popular schools as PRs can get into GEP.

[floppy]

Davischew\" post_id=\"1922821\" time=\"1564107058\" user_id=\"132882:

sparkling\" post_id=\"1922817\" time=\"1564106799\" user_id=\"21001:

How do you define absolute priority?

I am not sure if this has ever been raised before.

PR children can get into phase 1 of their school of choice easily if they also have a PR sibling already in their school of choice.
This means that a spot has been given to a PR student over a Singapore citizen only eligible for a later phase.

This system applies to all earlier phases for PR children over a Singapore citizen for a later phase but not eligible for the earlier phase of the same school.

Phases 2A1 and 2A2 may not necessarily have balloting.
It’s only phase 2B and especially the most intense phase 2C that has balloting.

So Singapore citizens in phase 2B and phase 2C has already lost spots to PRs in earlier phases.

Is this really absolute priority for Singapore citizens if a PR child takes a spot in an earlier phase of registration resulting in a SG citizen not getting a spot?

Typically, no numbers have been released before of how many PRs take P1 spots from citizens.
It may be very low or it may be significant.

It is not unfathomable that PRs have siblings in school, are alumni members, serve on school boards, are ex-students, staff of school, have siblings who are no longer students of the school. PRs would have taken spots away from citizens in phase 2B and 2C.

Yes, PRs contribute to Singapore. Singapore citizens also contribute to their own country.

The Singapore citizen child (and parents) in such situations are often forgotten because life goes on.

What are your thoughts?

I think currently, Phase take Priority 1st, then in the Phase, Citizen takes priority over PR, is already a huge step for local born. We can't satisfy everybody, and we don't divide the society too much. We all live here and should be in harmony.

The policy statement in totality:

At the end of each registration phase, should the number of applicants exceed the number of vacancies in a specific phase in a primary school, Singapore Citizens will be given absolute priority over Singapore Permanent Residents, followed by home-school distance categories (i.e. within 1km, between 1km and 2km, and more than 2km).

Therefore in simple terms:
Phase > Citizenship > Distance
Can’t see much wrong in that.

There’s a need to strike a balance between nativism and common sense approach.

[doraxmon]

Hi, seeking advise for a Friend. He’s Singapore Citizen 1km to both red Swastika and yuneng and currently a bit thorn as to which school to apply for phase 2c. Any advise from the masters?

[JYHAO]

sparkling\" post_id=\"1922817\" time=\"1564106799\" user_id=\"21001:

How do you define absolute priority?

I am not sure if this has ever been raised before.

PR children can get into phase 1 of their school of choice easily if they also have a PR sibling already in their school of choice.
This means that a spot has been given to a PR student over a Singapore citizen
...

PRs have been losing privileges along the years, jobs, housing, and education. In fact PR who got seats in early phase could be very few comparing to SC or their own population.

If all privileges are taken away, PR will be eventually not attractive at all. When this group become very minority and no influence, I am pretty sure some SCs will start blame other groups of SCs for unfairness.

[PoopyBear]

floppy\" post_id=\"1922835\" time=\"1564108649\" user_id=\"97579:

Davischew\" post_id=\"1922821\" time=\"1564107058\" user_id=\"132882:

[quote=sparkling post_id=1922817 time=1564106799 user_id=21001]How do you define absolute priority?

I am not sure if this has ever been raised before.

PR children can get into phase 1 of their school of choice easily if they also have a PR sibling already in their school of choice.
This means that a spot has been given to a PR student over a Singapore citizen only eligible for a later phase.

This system applies to all earlier phases for PR children over a Singapore citizen for a later phase but not eligible for the earlier phase of the same school.

Phases 2A1 and 2A2 may not necessarily have balloting.
It’s only phase 2B and especially the most intense phase 2C that has balloting.

So Singapore citizens in phase 2B and phase 2C has already lost spots to PRs in earlier phases.

Is this really absolute priority for Singapore citizens if a PR child takes a spot in an earlier phase of registration resulting in a SG citizen not getting a spot?

Typically, no numbers have been released before of how many PRs take P1 spots from citizens.
It may be very low or it may be significant.

It is not unfathomable that PRs have siblings in school, are alumni members, serve on school boards, are ex-students, staff of school, have siblings who are no longer students of the school. PRs would have taken spots away from citizens in phase 2B and 2C.

Yes, PRs contribute to Singapore. Singapore citizens also contribute to their own country.

The Singapore citizen child (and parents) in such situations are often forgotten because life goes on.

What are your thoughts?

I think currently, Phase take Priority 1st, then in the Phase, Citizen takes priority over PR, is already a huge step for local born. We can't satisfy everybody, and we don't divide the society too much. We all live here and should be in harmony.

The policy statement in totality:

At the end of each registration phase, should the number of applicants exceed the number of vacancies in a specific phase in a primary school, Singapore Citizens will be given absolute priority over Singapore Permanent Residents, followed by home-school distance categories (i.e. within 1km, between 1km and 2km, and more than 2km).

Therefore in simple terms:
Phase > Citizenship > Distance
Can’t see much wrong in that.

There’s a need to strike a balance between nativism and common sense approach.[/quote]嫩

[Davischew]

doraxmon\" post_id=\"1922848\" time=\"1564109675\" user_id=\"143300:

Hi, seeking advise for a Friend. He’s Singapore Citizen 1km to both red Swastika and yuneng and currently a bit thorn as to which school to apply for phase 2c. Any advise from the masters?

Risk is similar, hot balloting <1km for both. So monitor both to see any good odds, or just try at 1 preferred.
Get a backup will be better.

[doraxmon]

Thanks a lot! He does have back up plans (Damai/fengshan) and has been monitoring the numbers closely. He has also taken leave to do his leg work haha

Davischew\" post_id=\"1922855\" time=\"1564110187\" user_id=\"132882:

doraxmon\" post_id=\"1922848\" time=\"1564109675\" user_id=\"143300:

Hi, seeking advise for a Friend. He’s Singapore Citizen 1km to both red Swastika and yuneng and currently a bit thorn as to which school to apply for phase 2c. Any advise from the masters?

Risk is similar, hot balloting <1km for both. So monitor both to see any good odds, or just try at 1 preferred.
Get a backup will be better.