2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)
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sembgal\" post_id=\"1929341\" time=\"1565932343\" user_id=\"5559:
I totally agree.
PSLE Day 1 Chinese Oral is still considered easier than Day 2. Day 1 answers 对考官来说会带一点新鲜感。chenlaoshi\" post_id=\"1929268\" time=\"1565925269\" user_id=\"162894:
保持环境清洁 is a subtopic under 环保, just like for example 有公德心 is a subtopic under 懂得为别人着想.
Time to recharge over the weekend and prepare for Prelims！ :rahrah:
PSLE Day 2 Chinese Oral will have the same type of answers for most candidates and answers are 大同小异。
My son’s Chinese is really poor though. At least with today’s Chinese topic, he can say something lol. If he had ystd’s topic, he won’t even be able to understand the questions, let alone answer them.
🙏🏻 He can pass! -
Santorini56\" post_id=\"1929333\" time=\"1565931551\" user_id=\"178678:Thanks Santorini56. I am an ex-primary school CL teacher and current full time tutor. I just hope to reach out and play a part in helping as many kids/parents in their journey on learning of CL.
newbieks, i edited my earlier reply to include some suggested points:
newbieks\" post_id=\"1929336\" time=\"1565931863\" user_id=\"178749:[quote=newbieks post_id=1929336 time=1565931863 user_id=178749]Chenlaoshi, for the 2nd question, if any the child talk about the social responsibility part (which does not seem a lot to say) and continue with concrete examples of how everyone can play a part, is that considered out of point and won’t score well.
我们共同居住在这个地球上，保护环境清洁人人有责
应该懂得为自己的行为负责
应该关爱他人，帮忙减轻清洁工人的负担
只靠清洁工人打扫无法及时把环境弄得干净
You'll notice that the conversation is very \"fluid\" in terms of how the topics moves by the time it reaches this question: 保持环境清洁/卫生 --> 环保 --> 责任感、公德心、爱心
Regarding your question, nope, it's not out point - this is considered elaboration (https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=81235&p=1928092#p1928092). For a \"wholesome\" answer, just need to make sure that there were at least ~2 points that answered the question directly before elaborating. -
jj_1808\" post_id=\"1929343\" time=\"1565932559\" user_id=\"31403:
No wonder that first statement, \"one day easy, next day hard\", is true. It is not a myth, because been proven in this 2019 psle batch
In conclusion , I think this is totally unfair .
I still think that EL day one and CL day two are common topics and can obtain through reading , the children are able to talk about it .
However , the CL day one and EL day two are questions that are high level.. requires a lot of thinking-skills.
EL day 1 oral (library) : easy, common topic even though you didn't prepare for it
EL day 2 oral (poster showed a light bulb, someone looking at computer pc, and emphasis on \"forgetfulness\") : the theme is ambiguous, not clear, p6 student need to think through fast on the spot, before know what to say
CL day 1 oral (learning in school) : not sure considered easy or tough
CL day 2 oral (huan bao) : at least got school material provided to read up from, help u prepare oral
Huan bao is external, to do with environment, nothing to do with school
Second statement,
\"One day school related, Next day External, nothing to do with school\" -
also been proven true, this time round -
jj_1808\" post_id=\"1929343\" time=\"1565932559\" user_id=\"31403:
This reminds me of I think a few years back where it was brought up about the math ppr being difficult.
In conclusion , I think this is totally unfair .
I still think that EL day one and CL day two are common topics and can obtain through reading , the children are able to talk about it .
However , the CL day one and EL day two are questions that are high level.. requires a lot of thinking-skills.
Became a big issue when parents started complaining to the media and to the exam board. -
Thanks chenlaoshi. Actually my child says she got 4 questions, and kind of repeated the same points for the 3rd and 4th question. The 4th question is the ‘清洁公人‘question which I posed, but she says she can’t remember what were the 2nd question and 3rd question asked. I am assuming 2nd should be a 经验题。 so kind of worried 😟
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We got 5 questions for chinese oral…
Bad news?.. sweat.
Heard that some got 3 or 4 but their tr said 3 plus 1 are almost standard, a must for chinese oral…
Am i to assume that those who are asked 4 or less are the scorers? -
sembgal\" post_id=\"1929341\" time=\"1565932343\" user_id=\"5559:
CL
Dd memorised the answers for this topic as we were sure it will come out for prelim or PSLE this year. However, she did not get the prelim topic as compared to her peers who took prelim oral on first day. This time, PSLE Chinese Oral appears this questions on 2nd day and dd did not get this topic too.chenlaoshi\" post_id=\"1929268\" time=\"1565925269\" user_id=\"162894:
保持环境清洁 is a subtopic under 环保, just like for example 有公德心 is a subtopic under 懂得为别人着想.
Time to recharge over the weekend and prepare for Prelims！ :rahrah:
I should say she is lucky not to get this topic for Day 2 Chinese Oral as this topic requires correct and standard vocabulary for the Chinese oral.
PSLE Day 1 Chinese Oral is still considered easier than Day 2. Day 1 answers 对考官来说会带一点新鲜感。
PSLE Day 2 Chinese Oral will have the same type of answers for most candidates and answers are 大同小异。
Day 1: Easier to relate to cause it involves them personally. So should not have a situation where they have no idea what to answer. Can talk about the topic in a more casual manner (no social/ ethical worries).
Day 2: Easier to prepare for in terms of reading and memorizing. More 'landmines' in terms of exact nouns to be used (垃圾回收箱、垃圾分类、再循环、废物利用、环境污染)
How do we sieve out the excellent from good ones? By being more particular about the nouns and verbs used (and the variation in sentence structuring), the depth in which the students elaborated on their thoughts and answers as well as their responses to 转向问题. So does 'easier/more expected' topics mean it's easier to score and unfair to those who got the \"less common\" topics like Day 1's? I certainly don't think so. Worth noting that examiners' expectations changes according to the topic too. newbieks\" post_id=\"1929352\" time=\"1565933506\" user_id=\"178749:
4th question in 转向问题. No worries, if she managed her answers well for their earlier questions, will still be able to achieve 1st tier. Those questions would already have helped the examiners decide which tier to grade the student in. 转向问题 are more for deciding 13, 14 or 15 mark for 1st tier 10, 11 or 12 for 2nd tier etc.Thanks chenlaoshi. Actually my child says she got 4 questions, and kind of repeated the same points for the 3rd and 4th question. The 4th question is the ‘清洁公人‘question which I posed, but she says she can’t remember what were the 2nd question and 3rd question asked. I am assuming 2nd should be a 经验题。 so kind of worried 😟
*15 marks mentioned is content component under conversation. -
jasst\" post_id=\"1929355\" time=\"1565933972\" user_id=\"19004:
jasst, don't worry, no. of questions asked has no direct relation to the marks.
We got 5 questions for chinese oral...
Bad news?.... sweat.
Heard that some got 3 or 4 but their tr said 3 plus 1 are almost standard, a must for chinese oral..
Am i to assume that those who are asked 4 or less are the scorers?
Do check out this post: https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=81235&start=3630#p1929006 -
Chenlaoshi, so does it mean getting 4 questions is better than 5? 以此类推？
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chenlaoshi\" post_id=\"1929357\" time=\"1565934479\" user_id=\"162894:
Only now I know got their 'tier' thing
jasst, don't worry, no. of questions asked has no direct relation to the marks.jasst\" post_id=\"1929355\" time=\"1565933972\" user_id=\"19004:
We got 5 questions for chinese oral...
Bad news?.... sweat.
Heard that some got 3 or 4 but their tr said 3 plus 1 are almost standard, a must for chinese oral..
Am i to assume that those who are asked 4 or less are the scorers?
Do check out this post: https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=81235&start=3630#p1929006
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