* Eunoia JC (EJC)

[Parent2008]

Thanks for the prompt reply ngl2010.


All this IP stuff is new to me and so grateful to all the experiences parents and advices.

I was told that some IP programs like the RI programs have recently allowed weak Sec 2 students to transfer out to O level. It seems weaker students can also exit at Sec 4 to other JC. - https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/the-o-level-track-of-shame

May I know if the commitment for iP is for all 6 years or can I student exit at Sec 4 should they need to enrol in Polytechnic or another JC.

[floppy]

Parent2008\" post_id=\"1933791\" time=\"1567662684\" user_id=\"1010:

Thanks for the prompt reply ngl2010.

All this IP stuff is new to me and so grateful to all the experiences parents and advices.

I was told that some IP programs like the RI programs have recently allowed weak Sec 2 students to transfer out to O level. It seems weaker students can also exit at Sec 4 to other JC. - https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/the-o-level-track-of-shame

May I know if the commitment for iP is for all 6 years or can I student exit at Sec 4 should they need to enrol in Polytechnic or another JC.

Commitment for IP is for all 6 years. You cannot exit to enroll in another JC (because end destination is still the same - A Level and you are just trying to circumvent IP/JC requirements). You can, however, exit to polytechnic. For enrollment purposes, polytechnics now take IP year 4 results as the equivalent for O Level.

[ngl2010]

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Parent2008\" post_id=\"1933791\" time=\"1567662684\" user_id=\"1010:

Thanks for the prompt reply ngl2010.

All this IP stuff is new to me and so grateful to all the experiences parents and advices.

I was told that some IP programs like the RI programs have recently allowed weak Sec 2 students to transfer out to O level. It seems weaker students can also exit at Sec 4 to other JC. - https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/the-o-level-track-of-shame

May I know if the commitment for iP is for all 6 years or can I student exit at Sec 4 should they need to enrol in Polytechnic or another JC.

Commitment for IP is for all 6 years. You cannot exit to enroll in another JC (because end destination is still the same - A Level and you are just trying to circumvent IP/JC requirements). You can, however, exit to polytechnic. For enrollment purposes, polytechnics now take IP year 4 results as the equivalent for O Level.

DS has a friend who exited RI in year 4 to another JC via DSA. He got into RI via DSA too. I guess there will always be an exception?

The rest of the really weak students I heard were to Polytechnics after Year 4.

[Parent2008]

ngl2010\" post_id=\"1933800\" time=\"1567664511\" user_id=\"40978:

floppy\" post_id=\"1933798\" time=\"1567663610\" user_id=\"97579:

[quote=Parent2008 post_id=1933791 time=1567662684 user_id=1010]Thanks for the prompt reply ngl2010.

All this IP stuff is new to me and so grateful to all the experiences parents and advices.

I was told that some IP programs like the RI programs have recently allowed weak Sec 2 students to transfer out to O level. It seems weaker students can also exit at Sec 4 to other JC. - https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/the-o-level-track-of-shame

May I know if the commitment for iP is for all 6 years or can I student exit at Sec 4 should they need to enrol in Polytechnic or another JC.

Commitment for IP is for all 6 years. You cannot exit to enroll in another JC (because end destination is still the same - A Level and you are just trying to circumvent IP/JC requirements). You can, however, exit to polytechnic. For enrollment purposes, polytechnics now take IP year 4 results as the equivalent for O Level.

DS has a friend who exited RI in year 4 to another JC via DSA. He got into RI via DSA too. I guess there will always be an exception?

The rest of the really weak students I heard were to Polytechnics after Year 4.[/quote]Does RI only have IP? If so, your DS Friend should be heading to RJC after Sec 4. Why choose another JC and DSA.

I am curious because for Sports IP, even the commitment is till Sec 4 and not JC. So I thought it’s possible to exit at Sec 4 even if you have DSA IP.

[Parent2008]

ngl2010\" post_id=\"1933800\" time=\"1567664511\" user_id=\"40978:

floppy\" post_id=\"1933798\" time=\"1567663610\" user_id=\"97579:

[quote=Parent2008 post_id=1933791 time=1567662684 user_id=1010]Thanks for the prompt reply ngl2010.

All this IP stuff is new to me and so grateful to all the experiences parents and advices.

I was told that some IP programs like the RI programs have recently allowed weak Sec 2 students to transfer out to O level. It seems weaker students can also exit at Sec 4 to other JC. - https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/the-o-level-track-of-shame

May I know if the commitment for iP is for all 6 years or can I student exit at Sec 4 should they need to enrol in Polytechnic or another JC.

Commitment for IP is for all 6 years. You cannot exit to enroll in another JC (because end destination is still the same - A Level and you are just trying to circumvent IP/JC requirements). You can, however, exit to polytechnic. For enrollment purposes, polytechnics now take IP year 4 results as the equivalent for O Level.

DS has a friend who exited RI in year 4 to another JC via DSA. He got into RI via DSA too. I guess there will always be an exception?

The rest of the really weak students I heard were to Polytechnics after Year 4.[/quote]Does RI only have IP? If so, your DS Friend should be heading to RJC after Sec 4. Why choose another JC and DSA.

I am curious because for Sports IP, even the commitment is till Sec 4 and not JC. So I thought it’s possible to exit at Sec 4 even if you have DSA IP.

[phtthp]

ngl2010\" post_id=\"1933800\" time=\"1567664511\" user_id=\"40978:

DS has a friend who exited RI in year 4 to another JC via DSA. He got into RI via DSA too. I guess there will always be an exception?

The rest of the really weak students I heard were to Polytechnics after Year 4.

Yes, have exception
There is this celebrity actress.

Her son in RI, at year 5 transferred over to Hwa Chong

[phtthp]

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Parent2008\" post_id=\"1933726\" time=\"1567646087\" user_id=\"1010:

I am curious. Is the proportion of other JCs also similar to EJC in terms of IP and JAE students? As in 2/3 IP, 1/3 JAE?

Same for RJC. 1/3 from RI, 1/3 from RGS and 1/3 from JAE intake.

In that case, since EJC from 3 schools, should be

Catholic High (IP) : 1 / 4

SCGS (IP) : 1 / 4

SNGS (IP) : 1 / 4

JAE (OP) : 1 / 4

[comrades]

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[quote=floppy post_id=1933521 time=1567558709 user_id=97579]I can totally understand why the better students (in terms of O Level results) would not want to choose EJC in the last 2/3 years. Given all the good choices that they can have, why pick a JC that’s in an interim location, out of the way and very much outdated / worn down?

Hence, EJC has probably the widest gap in terms of academic ability between the IP and OP students among all the IP JCs. Results not being as great is hardly a surprised. With the new campus, and being closer to CHS and SNGS, two of the constituent schools, expect big things to come from EJC.

Its bigger 67% IPs feeder cohort vs its 33% JAE cohort, yet 2018 results were not as great.
Unless was 67% JAE at that time then its understandable.
Flaw in teaching depts, maybe.

When you say “not as great”, you probably may want to explain what is “not as great” or what is considered \"great” to you. As far as the published results had shown, which Esteema had done a comparison, EJC is producing the results that it is expected to produce.

Actually... if we take your EJC cohort breakdown at face value, EJC result is actually damned impressive. Considering that 33% of the cohort are from JAE (2017 intake COP 11/10), it’s average UAS of 82.4 is actually outperforming their expectation when you compared it to other JCs such as VJC average of 83.7 (IP and COP 8/6) and NYJC median of 84.4 (COP 8/7).[/quote]Dude,
My words 'results not as great' was taken from wat u said abt Ejc results 👉\"Results not being as great is hardly a surprised.\" LOL
👉\"if we take your EJC cohort breakdown at face value\"- goggle ST news Ejc news dated 14/1/2017, u see 67% fr IP feeder.

Wif only 33% JAE, wats de initial predicated expectation from these 9 pointers JAE cohort that dude you said UAS 82.4 is damned impressive?
9 pointers is not bad score.

Vjc n Nyjc results re better than Ejc.
Fyi, Nyjc medium isnt 84.4, its med above 85.
Its Njc med 84.4.
College Mgt shd tackle the disparity culture between IP n JAE now as its an issue brewing. Some JAE kids re feeling it.

[Parent2008]

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ngl2010\" post_id=\"1933800\" time=\"1567664511\" user_id=\"40978:

[quote=floppy]
Commitment for IP is for all 6 years.

You cannot exit to enroll in another JC (because end destination is still the same - A Level and you are just trying to circumvent IP/JC requirements). You can, however, exit to polytechnic. For enrollment purposes, polytechnics now take IP year 4 results as the equivalent for O Level.

DS has a friend who exited RI in year 4 to another JC via DSA. He got into RI via DSA too. I guess there will always be an exception?

The rest of the really weak students I heard were to Polytechnics after Year 4.

Yes, have exception
There is this celebrity actress.

Her son in RI, at year 5 transferred over to Hwa Chong[/quote]Any idea what this exception is? Don’t think it’s because his Mother is a celebrity actress right?

So sounds like RI released the boy to HCI. Was he DSAed? I think the issue is if a DSA student can transfer our after Sec 4. I suppose if the boy got into RI IP on his own merit, he should eligible to participate in the DSA year 5 and JAE. Only thing is, did he enter HCI using Sec 4 result since he unlikely did his O Levels right?

[Parent2008]

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[quote=comrades post_id=1933690 time=1567613706 user_id=180828]

Its bigger 67% IPs feeder cohort vs its 33% JAE cohort, yet 2018 results were not as great.
Unless was 67% JAE at that time then its understandable.
Flaw in teaching depts, maybe.

When you say “not as great”, you probably may want to explain what is “not as great” or what is considered \"great” to you. As far as the published results had shown, which Esteema had done a comparison, EJC is producing the results that it is expected to produce.

Actually... if we take your EJC cohort breakdown at face value, EJC result is actually damned impressive. Considering that 33% of the cohort are from JAE (2017 intake COP 11/10), it’s average UAS of 82.4 is actually outperforming their expectation when you compared it to other JCs such as VJC average of 83.7 (IP and COP 8/6) and NYJC median of 84.4 (COP 8/7).

Dude,
My words 'results not as great' was taken from wat u said abt Ejc results 👉\"Results not being as great is hardly a surprised.\" LOL
👉\"if we take your EJC cohort breakdown at face value\"- goggle ST news Ejc news dated 14/1/2017, u see 67% fr IP feeder.

Wif only 33% JAE, wats de initial predicated expectation from these 9 pointers JAE cohort that dude you said UAS 82.4 is damned impressive?
9 pointers is not bad score.

Vjc n Nyjc results re better than Ejc.
Fyi, Nyjc medium isnt 84.4, its med above 85.
Its Njc med 84.4.
College Mgt shd tackle the disparity culture between IP n JAE now as its an issue brewing. Some JAE kids re feeling it.[/quote]Can you elaborate what you mean about disparity culture? How are the JAE kids feeling it? Isn’t it the same in all IP schools for JAE kids? Or for the matter of fact, affiliated schools like ACJC and SAJC?