2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

[P1 mummy]

manorway\" post_id=\"1937045\" time=\"1569381449\" user_id=\"9303:

P1 mummy\" post_id=\"1936996\" time=\"1569367745\" user_id=\"68074:[quote=\"P1 mummy\" post_id=1936996 time=1569367745 user_id=68074]

Which Big 4 schools?

RI, RGS,NYGH, HCI ....the top 4.

I see. Thanks. What about MGS? I thought MGS has higher COP for IP than NYGH last year?

That's an exception. Last year was an exception in terms of cop for middle tier schools. NYGH have always been a school of higher cop than MGS. NYGH cop for affiliation is 250 MGS is 220 for their own girls from the primary. Your DD gets 250 n is from mgs pri where would u rather she goes? A homogenous school is better. Imo

[MerlionInGermany]

manorway\" post_id=\"1937058\" time=\"1569382796\" user_id=\"9303:

floppy\" post_id=\"1937051\" time=\"1569382135\" user_id=\"97579:

[quote=manorway post_id=1937045 time=1569381449 user_id=9303]...
How are the big 4 decided?

Without a doubt, it's ranked by the design of the school uniform.

RI should have been ranked poorly TBH... but people are so used to see white on white.

Haha

Why do you think RI should be ranked poorly?

I just don’t get why these are the big 4? Besides the Raffles name, what else is special about the school programmes that are superior to other schools?

HCI and NYGH offer bilingual programmes but I know so many kids who struggle to speak Mandarin in the 2 schools, so they are definitely not interested in the bilingual programmes.[/quote]Could be because they are the first 4 schools that started the through train so they have more years of having people talk about them, and being longer in the program could mean the program is more established. If you really ask some of the p6 children why they want to go to these schools, many of them dont really know. Or like one of them told me, she just ranked the schools by COP in her 6 choices.

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patlsy79\" post_id=\"1935311\" time=\"1568473017\" user_id=\"65743:

Saw the ch8 news..n95 out of stock islandwide...

Thank God is raining now, drive away the haze, air feel refreshing

[floppy]

P1 mummy\" post_id=\"1937078\" time=\"1569386812\" user_id=\"68074:[quote=\"P1 mummy\" post_id=1937078 time=1569386812 user_id=68074]

That's an exception. Last year was an exception in terms of cop for middle tier schools. NYGH have always been a school of higher cop than MGS. NYGH cop for affiliation is 250 MGS is 220 for their own girls from the primary. Your DD gets 250 n is from mgs pri where would u rather she goes? A homogenous school is better. Imo[/quote]

Cannot compare apples and oranges, and then say the pears are a better buy.

NYGH COP affiliation (250) is for IP whereas MGS COP affiliation (220) is for OP only.

In addition, NYGH is a through train to A Level whereas MGS is a IB Programme.

Here are the numbers for this year cohort:
MGS IP COP is 258 (no bonus for affiliation).
NYGH IP COP is also 258 (for non-affiliated students). However, a handful of NYPS girls will get in via affiliation at 250.

For last year cohort,
MGS IP COP is 260, NYGH IP COP is 264.

Going back another year,
MGS IP COP is 259, NYGH IP COP is 264.

I think calling MGS a middle tier school is a bit daft.

[floppy]

MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1937081\" time=\"1569387271\" user_id=\"2964:

Could be because they are the first 4 schools that started the through train so they have more years of having people talk about them, and being longer in the program could mean the program is more established. If you really ask some of the p6 children why they want to go to these schools, many of them dont really know. Or like one of them told me, she just ranked the schools by COP in her 6 choices.

Most people just ranked them by COP... Although that is also a problem by itself in trying to establish a big whatever number.

I hope people realise that a NYGH student can't get into RI even thought the student way exceed the COP, and vice versa

[P1 mummy]

floppy\" post_id=\"1937086\" time=\"1569387893\" user_id=\"97579:

P1 mummy\" post_id=\"1937078\" time=\"1569386812\" user_id=\"68074:[quote=\"P1 mummy\" post_id=1937078 time=1569386812 user_id=68074]
That's an exception. Last year was an exception in terms of cop for middle tier schools. NYGH have always been a school of higher cop than MGS. NYGH cop for affiliation is 250 MGS is 220 for their own girls from the primary. Your DD gets 250 n is from mgs pri where would u rather she goes? A homogenous school is better. Imo

Cannot compare apples and oranges, and then say the pears are a better buy.

NYGH COP affiliation (250) is for IP whereas MGS COP affiliation (220) is for OP only.

Here are the numbers for this year cohort:
MGS IP COP is 258 (no bonus for affiliation).
NYGH IP COP is also 258 (for non-affiliated students). However, a handful of NYPS girls will get in via affiliation at 250.

For last year cohort,
MGS IP COP is 260, NYGH IP COP is 264.

Going back another year,
MGS IP COP is 259, NYGH IP COP is 264.

I think calling MGS a middle tier school is a bit daft.[/quote]

No need to get so touchy. As i said its my opinion. You are entitled to yours. I surround myself with 260s n 270s if im in that calibre n hence i rather not be with 220s if i have the choice. If you go to Mgs the cohort is diluted deny it all you want. Don't need to call names its not necessary.

Just bcos a school advertises its cop as 258 or whatever it is for a certain school for that year it doesnt mean that that is their official cop....that doesnt happen for the top 4 sought after schools. No need to get touchy n call names floppy. Its good to aim high no harm in that.

[manorway]

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manorway\" post_id=\"1937045\" time=\"1569381449\" user_id=\"9303:

[quote=\"P1 mummy\" post_id=1936996 time=1569367745 user_id=68074]
RI, RGS,NYGH, HCI ....the top 4.

I see. Thanks. What about MGS? I thought MGS has higher COP for IP than NYGH last year?

That's an exception. Last year was an exception in terms of cop for middle tier schools. NYGH have always been a school of higher cop than MGS. NYGH cop for affiliation is 250 MGS is 220 for their own girls from the primary. Your DD gets 250 n is from mgs pri where would u rather she goes? A homogenous school is better. Imo[/quote]

NYGH COP 250 for affiliation is for their IP stream since in NYGH, there is only IP. But MGS has dual track so when the 220 COP for affiliation is for Express. Not IP. Their IP girls must enter via DSA or PSLE score of 258 and above.

[P1 mummy]

manorway\" post_id=\"1937098\" time=\"1569389565\" user_id=\"9303:

P1 mummy\" post_id=\"1937078\" time=\"1569386812\" user_id=\"68074:[quote=\"P1 mummy\" post_id=1937078 time=1569386812 user_id=68074]

I see. Thanks. What about MGS? I thought MGS has higher COP for IP than NYGH last year?

That's an exception. Last year was an exception in terms of cop for middle tier schools. NYGH have always been a school of higher cop than MGS. NYGH cop for affiliation is 250 MGS is 220 for their own girls from the primary. Your DD gets 250 n is from mgs pri where would u rather she goes? A homogenous school is better. Imo

NYGH COP 250 for affiliation is for their IP stream since in NYGH, there is only IP. But MGS has dual track so when the 220 COP for affiliation is for Express. Not IP. Their IP girls must enter via DSA or PSLE score of 258 and above.

I don't decide the big 4 . Its a historical thing. Im sorry for those of you who are so fiercely fighting the corner of MGS it is not one of the big 4 ie historically speaking. I'm sure its good enough in its own right but just not 1.of the big 4

[floppy]

P1 mummy\" post_id=\"1937096\" time=\"1569389373\" user_id=\"68074:[quote=\"P1 mummy\" post_id=1937096 time=1569389373 user_id=68074]

No need to get so touchy. As i said its my opinion. You are entitled to yours. I surround myself with 260s n 270s if im in that calibre n hence i rather not be with 220s if i have the choice. If you go to Mgs the cohort is diluted deny it all you want. Don't need to call names its not necessary.

Just bcos a school advertises its cop as 258 or whatever it is for a certain school for that year it doesnt mean that that is their official cop....that doesnt happen for the top 4 sought after schools. No need to get touchy n call names floppy. Its good to aim high no harm in that.[/quote]

Touchy?
Calling names? :scratchhead:
When is pointing out factual errors an issue of opinion?

I don't understand what you mean by that isn't their official COP... I mean those are their official, published COP. Sure, some students got in with lower COP via DSA or whatever... but that happens to all schools and official COP are a matter of records and what we go by.

Notwithstanding, I can totally understand the \"Please, get out of my elite uncaring face\" attitude and not wanting to mix with the peasants*. I vaguely remember a member here arguing last year that NYGH was 'diluted' because of affiliation whereas RGS was 'purer' (not the same exact words, but similar intent).

*Digress: coincidentally, was (re-)watching Lions Mum the other day and caught the episode about Durrani wanting her daughter, Nabilah, to have a study-date with people of her calibre (in this case, Hillary - Chae's daughter) only. As a result, she tries to siam her best friend (Jennifer) request to have her daughter (Ada) study and be inspired by someone better. I got a feeling that Mediacorp basically lifted their source materials from KSP

[cutepandabear]

I have seen the slides the MGS Principal presented at their info talk for P6s few months ago. Actually, the performance of their O level track girls is nothing to shout about. It’s decent but I would say it is mid-tier.


The MGS IB track girls’ performance however, was quite impressive. They showed how their IB girls did after they went to ACSI and got the IB diploma.

I would say the MGS IB girls are of a high calibre, the same girls that would apply to RGS and NYGH too.