2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)
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MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1941393\" time=\"1571177205\" user_id=\"2964:
Hi MerlionGermany,
Just a note that it is not compulsory for each local sec 1 to study in a secondary school that is listed in SIS. A local sec 1 can opt to homeschool, go overseas, or go to the International Schools.phtthp\" post_id=\"1941383\" time=\"1571151513\" user_id=\"35251:
We all know that it is compulsory, for every local Sec 1 student to study in a Secondary school. And this website contained info for All Secondary schools in Singapore, providing info concerning the lowest (minimum) Cut-off point, and the highest Tscore, PER Secondary school. Thus from here, one can track (monitor), which school has the HIGHEST Tscore.
would like to find out more -
can enlighten all of us here, under what circumstances, would a local 12 year old student at such a young tender age choose the following, over studying in a local Secondary school ?
(1) opt for home school,
What is the % of our local Secondary Singaporean students doing this, opt for home school ?
Home school, this terminology, ever came across, for kindergarten kids aged 5 or 6 years old, as well for certain primary school children aged 7 to 12 yo, but for Secondary school student aged 13 to 18 yo, so big, got home school meh?
During adolescence (puberty teenage) age, from 13 to 18 yo, don't these students need to learn how to develop socially, by interacting with other same-age-peer-group, no need to learn develop socially by taking up a CCA ? If home-school, who interact with them, at home ?
perhaps, handicapped or disabled children, not convenient to move around in wheel-chair in school compound, may need home-school.
Bu,t if home-school, means one parent need to be dedicated all day long, stay at home, educate the child from 13 to 16 or 18 yo, so long, so many years. Means this parent cannot go outside to work, earn $ income for the family. What if the family is poor, both parents need to work, so as to put food on the table to feed the whole family (makan), then how ? still can afford, to home-school ? of course not
But if their children are fine, nothing wrong with them, healthy, no physical handicap whatsoever, won't parents naturally prefer to let them study in Secondary school ?
Won't parents prefer their children to grow up all rounded - socially through interaction with fellow class-mates, school-mates, emotionally, physcially through Sports PE lessons, through joining some CCA ?
won't parents prefer that their kids to attend school, since their kid nothing wrong, no handicap, win some award from MOE ?
list of award available, from MOE
https://www.moe.gov.sg/education/edusave/edusave-scholarships-for-independent-schools-%28esis%29
(2) go overseas, at such a young tender age at 12 yo ?
Parents not worried that their precious child, is all alone in a foreign land overseas, all by himself (herself) ?
Huh, the child so young only 12 yo, already know how to be independent?
What is the percentage of local students doing this : go overseas ?
(3) go to an International school, with expensive school fees sponsored by rich papa-and-mama ?
If a student come from disadvantaged, poor family background wish to study International school, how to ?
What is the %tage of local students, studying in International Secondary schools ? -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1941397\" time=\"1571183633\" user_id=\"35251:
Hi MerlionGermany,
Just a note that it is not compulsory for each local sec 1 to study in a secondary school that is listed in SIS. A local sec 1 can opt to homeschool, go overseas, or go to the International Schools.MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1941393\" time=\"1571177205\" user_id=\"2964:
[quote=phtthp post_id=1941383 time=1571151513 user_id=35251]We all know that it is compulsory, for every local Sec 1 student to study in a Secondary school. And this website contained info for All Secondary schools in Singapore, providing info concerning the lowest (minimum) Cut-off point, and the highest Tscore, PER Secondary school. Thus from here, one can track (monitor), which school has the HIGHEST Tscore.
would like to find out more -
can enlighten all of us here, under what circumstances, would a local 12 year old student at such a young tender age choose the following, over studying in a local Secondary school ?
(1) opt for home school,
What is the % of our local Secondary Singaporean students doing this, opt for home school ?
Home school, this terminology, ever came across, for kindergarten kids aged 5 or 6 years old, as well for certain primary school children aged 7 to 12 yo, but for Secondary school student aged 13 to 18 yo, so big, got home school meh?
During adolescence (puberty teenage) age, from 13 to 18 yo, don't these students need to learn how to develop socially, by interacting with other same-age-peer-group, no need to learn develop socially by taking up a CCA ? If home-school, who interact with them, at home ?
(2) go overseas, at such a young tender age at 12 yo ? Parents not worried that their precious child, is all alone in a foreign land overseas, all by himself (herself) ?
Huh, the child so young only 12 yo, already know how to be independent?
What is the percentage of local students doing this : go overseas ?
(3) go to an International school, with expensive school fees sponsored by rich papa-and-mama ?
If a student come from disadvantaged, poor family background wish to study International school, how to ?
What is the %tage of local students, studying in International Secondary schools ?[/quote]I don't think these statistics are readily available although MOE probably has some idea. The numbers are probably extremely small, but some families do choose these routes. I personally know families who choose to homeschool all the way, but the kids take PSLE because that is the rule under the compusory education law (limited to Pr school). I don't know if their scores are captured in the various statistics even if they don't take part in the S1 posting exercise. I also know families who send their kids to boarding schools overseas, some even before sec school. And I also know families who have their kids in international schools in Singapore. Boarding school and international school options are expensive, of course, and beyond the reach of low income families. Even homeschool is \"expensive\" in the sense that usually a parent will have to stay home to homeschool, or the child will have to attend a homeschool cooperative (which have fees higher than Singapore schools). -
And MerlionGermany,
First of all, I wish to point out that
nowhere in my original message posted, did i ever mention this phrase, "that is added in SIS". If u not sure, please go back and read the original message, word by word, again. Is all up there, can check
Who is the one, that started to introduce these phrase, "that is added in SIS" ?
Is you yourself, started adding the phrase.
Why ?
because you happen to jump to conclusions, yourself. But what u choose to interpret, has got nothing to do with my original intended, written message. Besides, nobody have control over what you choose to interpret
To clarify, my status -
What was my intention, of mentioning the MOE website, to all of you here, that contained the lowest Cut-off-point, to the highest Tscore, PER Secondary school ?
Purpose is
to let people know that -
actually, there is still another way to find out (ie. Through the " Moe choosing schools Sec 1 Information booklet" , What is the highest Tscore, for those who entered by PSLE Tscore, since now Moe forbid disclosure.
At least getting half a piece of info, from those who chose to enter by PSLE Tscore entry, although we don’t have the complete info, since the other half is entry from the DSA students’ side, missing info, but half-info is still better than totally nothing (zero info)
And Not
according, to what u yourself had interpreted.
Are you even aware that, there is a big huge difference, between these 2 statements -
a) my original statement, posted
"We all know that it is compulsory, for every local Sec 1 student to study in a Secondary school."
vs.
b) your own statement, interpreted by yourself, conclusion drawn by yourself
"We all know that it is compulsory, for every local Sec 1 student to study in a Secondary school, that is added in SIS"
And MerlionGermany,
by the way, i had also noticed a pattern in you.
I noticed that this is not the first time, you tried to "ge kiang" in Hokkien (in English, means "act like a smart Alec") on the messages that I posted into this forum. For some past messages, u did the same, but i chose to keep quiet (silent) back then, because i don’t like to kick up a fuss in this forum. And because it already happened more than once, that’s why i decided to let you know, what i had noticed.
What is it, that i had noticed about you ? You are very quick, in trying to correct things that i said, in this forum. You act very quickly, on the spot -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1941397\" time=\"1571183633\" user_id=\"35251:
Hi MerlionGermany,
Just a note that it is not compulsory for each local sec 1 to study in a secondary school that is listed in SIS. A local sec 1 can opt to homeschool, go overseas, or go to the International Schools.MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1941393\" time=\"1571177205\" user_id=\"2964:
[quote=phtthp post_id=1941383 time=1571151513 user_id=35251]We all know that it is compulsory, for every local Sec 1 student to study in a Secondary school. And this website contained info for All Secondary schools in Singapore, providing info concerning the lowest (minimum) Cut-off point, and the highest Tscore, PER Secondary school. Thus from here, one can track (monitor), which school has the HIGHEST Tscore.
would like to find out more -
can enlighten all of us here, under what circumstances, would a local 12 year old student at such a young tender age choose the following, over studying in a local Secondary school ?
(1) opt for home school,
What is the % of our local Secondary Singaporean students doing this, opt for home school ?
Home school, this terminology, ever came across, for kindergarten kids aged 5 or 6 years old, as well for certain primary school children aged 7 to 12 yo, but for Secondary school student aged 13 to 18 yo, so big, got home school meh?
During adolescence (puberty teenage) age, from 13 to 18 yo, don't these students need to learn how to develop socially, by interacting with other same-age-peer-group, no need to learn develop socially by taking up a CCA ? If home-school, who interact with them, at home ?
(2) go overseas, at such a young tender age at 12 yo ? Parents not worried that their precious child, is all alone in a foreign land overseas, all by himself (herself) ?
Huh, the child so young only 12 yo, already know how to be independent?
What is the percentage of local students doing this : go overseas ?
(3) go to an International school, with expensive school fees sponsored by rich papa-and-mama ?
If a student come from disadvantaged, poor family background wish to study International school, how to ?
What is the %tage of local students, studying in International Secondary schools ?[/quote]I agree, these numbers are too small to be significant in the estimation that every parent member is trying to make here. -
MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1941393\" time=\"1571177205\" user_id=\"2964:
actually it is not compulsory to send a child to secondary school, isn't it? :evil:
Just a note that it is not compulsory for each local sec 1 to study in a secondary school that is listed in SIS. A local sec 1 can opt to homeschool, go overseas, or go to the International Schools.phtthp\" post_id=\"1941383\" time=\"1571151513\" user_id=\"35251:
We all know that it is compulsory, for every local Sec 1 student to study in a Secondary school. And this website contained info for All Secondary schools in Singapore, providing info concerning the lowest (minimum) Cut-off point, and the highest Tscore, PER Secondary school. Thus from here, one can track (monitor), which school has the HIGHEST Tscore.
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The Compulsory Education Act says that all SG children* must complete Primary education in a national school before they turn 15. Secondary and beyond education is not covered (ie optional, doesn’t matter where you choose to do it, or if you don’t even bother to do it).
*all except two groups:
1. Home schooled
2. Special needs -
floppy\" post_id=\"1941407\" time=\"1571187396\" user_id=\"97579:
There are updates on exemption, apparently
The Compulsory Education Act says that all SG children* must complete Primary education in a national school before they turn 15. Secondary and beyond education is not covered (ie optional, doesn’t matter where you choose to do it, or if you don’t even bother to do it).
*all except two groups:
1. Home schooled
2. Special needs -
6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1941413\" time=\"1571189730\" user_id=\"145858:
Probably, but doesn’t affect secondary education as not being compulsory.
There are updates on exemption, apparentlyfloppy\" post_id=\"1941407\" time=\"1571187396\" user_id=\"97579:
The Compulsory Education Act says that all SG children* must complete Primary education in a national school before they turn 15. Secondary and beyond education is not covered (ie optional, doesn’t matter where you choose to do it, or if you don’t even bother to do it).
*all except two groups:
1. Home schooled
2. Special needs -
I only wanted to point out that sec school education is not compulsory. Therefore, not every local sec 1 student must study in the sec school found in MOE SIS. I added this “moe sis”
So it is possible that a person who did PSLE and had a higher score than 280, and did not appear in MOE SIS. in exactly the same way it was mentioned, one very known possibility is DSA.
So besides the score of DSA kids who did not appear in MOE SIS, there is also a few groups whose score will not appear. These groups are homeschool children, those who go overseas, and those who go to international school.
Homeschool children, I cannot give stats and no source, but my friend’s 2 kids are not attending sec school. They are supposed to be sec 2 and sec 3 this year. It is possible to do it because sec school is not compulsory, therefore there is no need to take part in s1 posting if you dont want to, just dont submit the form. No need to inform any ministry also.
For overseas, my kid’s 4 ex classmates are now overseas, 3 in boarding schools, and 1 staying with relatives. I am not sure if they asked for it or were told to go. Except for one, who had been asking since pri 3, cos her sister went after her sister’s PSLE.
For international schools, even more. So many of them are in SJI international and HC international. One is in ACS international. Another friend just told me yesterday, that his son who just did PSLE 2019, will be joining SJI International, wont be taking part in S1 posting and whose score will not be captured.
My purpose was to point out that not every PSLE score is captured, besides DSA that had been mentioned, there is also these 3 groups.
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