C9 League of Chinese Universities

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Hi all, I am a JC graduate who recently got my A-level results. My UAP is pretty decent I guess, 87.5. I am considering Peking University or NUS/NTU. I am at a crossroad right now, not knowing whether to stay in sg or go overseas. The pros of gg to peking will be fully covered tuition+accommodation fees+extra allowance, as well as the exposure living in one of the fastest growing countries in the world. I was thinking maybe pku will give me an edge in employment here, since china's market is expanding very quickly and there might be more companies wanting to have business dealings with china (?). However, I do recognise that local unis do provide a world-class education, and finding a job after graduating will be easier. what do i do?


p.s im planning to study IR in china, and business administration locally

I think you briefly answered your own question in your post. One of the key considerations when choosing a university is the kind of jobs you are looking for after graduation and the kind of internship opportunities your university has to offer. University is a spring board for your leap into the job market thereafter. If you are planning to work and live in China, the obvious choice is to study in PKU. I commonly deal with College admissions to US/UK/SG universities so I am not so sure about the competitiveness of PKU. But i believe it is comparable or even more competitive than local unis so that should be a consideration as well.

Next is your command of the Chinese Language. A pre-requisite to studying at PKU is a strong foundation in Mandarin. Problems cause by language barriers or language deficiency will be a killer upon enrollment.

Last but not least is the degree you wish to pursue. Universities are always more established in teaching certain courses than others. Do your research on what you wish to study and the level of teaching and support the school can offer. Try not to rely too much on rankings because rankings are based on a set of criteria, which are may not be relevant to your decision. Eg. NUS may rank higher in Business Administration than say SMU, because it does not mean you will benefit more from the student. It could be because they conduct more extensive research or hire more consultants to helm that area.

I hope this helps! If you need more help on college consulting, drop me a PM. We give first consultations for free too, if you want to do a quick run through face to face.

[Coolkidsrock2]

How do I check if a Chinese universty, not amongst the C9, is recognised here?

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How do I check if a Chinese universty, not amongst the C9, is recognised here?

I think the question would be in what field?

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How do I check if a Chinese universty, not amongst the C9, is recognised here?

There is no central authority that assesses or accords recognition to degrees for employment into the Public Service. In general, degrees from universities accredited by the home government of the country where the university is located will be considered for appointment into the Public Service. This applies to degrees obtained full-time or part-time, through distance learning or twinning programmes etc. Each public service agency decides on the skills required for their respective jobs, and qualification may be one proxy for the required skills. For overseas professional qualifications, agencies will check whether these are recognised by the relevant professional bodies in Singapore.

Medicine
https://www.healthprofessionals.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider2/default-document-library/press-release---revision-to-list-of-overseas-medical-schools-for-registration-to-practise-in-singapore.pdf

PE
https://www.peb.gov.sg/html/pe_approved.html

Architecture
https://www.boa.gov.sg/register/recognised-schools/

Early Childhood Education
https://www.ecda.gov.sg/Educators/Pages/For-those-with-foreign-Early-Childhood-qualifications.aspx

MOE teachers
https://www.moe.gov.sg/careers/teach/teaching-scholarships-awards/frequently-asked-questions
MOE does not restrict your choice of university, so long as the university is of reputable standing. The course of study should be rigorous and provides relevant subject content for you to teach at the secondary school or junior college level. We welcome you to discuss your choice of university and country of study with our scholarship officers.




Law
http://www.minlaw.gov.sg/content/minlaw/en/practising-as-a-lawyer/approved-universities.html
Foreign-qualified lawyers who pass the FPE can apply to the Director of Legal Services under section 36B of the Legal Profession Act for registration to practise in permitted areas of Singapore law. The permitted areas would include areas such as banking and finance, mergers and acquisitions and intellectual property law. Foreign lawyers must have at least three years of relevant legal practice or work, which may be gained in Singapore or overseas, before they can apply to sit for the FPE.

Chartered Accountants
https://isca.org.sg/media/2822793/list-of-recognised-accounting-degrees-for-associate_working-file.pdf

But no problem if you want to work in HK:
https://www.hkicpa.org.hk/en/Become-a-Hong-Kong-CPA/Register-as-a-Qualification-Programme-Student/Route-5-Mainland-China-university-degree-holders
https://www.hkicpa.org.hk/-/media/HKICPA-Website/New-HKICPA/Become-a-Hong-Kong-CPA/Register-as-a-Qualification-Programme-Student/Route-5/PRC-Degree_31_May_2017.pdf?la=en&hash=2E80A64549EE626692E769B7FCDDABF3
https://www.hkicpa.org.hk/-/media/HKICPA-Website/New-HKICPA/Become-a-Hong-Kong-CPA/Register-as-a-Qualification-Programme-Student/Route-5/PRC_Adult_Higher_Ed_31_May_2017.pdf?la=en&hash=3A658A467B2102A3D720632CD1215081

[Coolkidsrock2]

Thank you zeit.


Am looking at Science degree, eg Chemistry, Biotech, Food Science etc. Since professional bodies recognition is not required, should be fine if it is a Project 985/211 or their MOE recognised university?

[Coolkidsrock2]

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Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"1947798\" time=\"1574391822\" user_id=\"48901:

How do I check if a Chinese universty, not amongst the C9, is recognised here?

I think the question would be in what field?

Sorry, missed your question. Chemistry.

[.010675zeit]

Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"1947879\" time=\"1574401558\" user_id=\"48901:

Thank you zeit.

Am looking at Science degree, eg Chemistry, Biotech, Food Science etc. Since professional bodies recognition is not required, should be fine if it is a Project 985/211 or their MOE recognised university?

Yes, because of govt funding, these Double First Class 985/211 universities have better facilities.
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/44327580

I think Tianjin University and East China Science & Tech University are top in Chemistry according to Zhihu.
http://www.tju.edu.cn/
https://www.ecust.edu.cn/

Otherwise, Xiamen, Wuhan, Sichuan are also ok.

It's important to pick a city that the child can live in. Tianjin is very liveable. There're Singaporeans there and it's very near to Beijing.
East China is smack in bustling Xuhui in Shanghai, so the student won't feel lonely.

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[quote=Coolkidsrock2 post_id=1947798 time=1574391822 user_id=48901]How do I check if a Chinese universty, not amongst the C9, is recognised here?

I think the question would be in what field?

Sorry, missed your question. Chemistry.[/quote]No worries. I think .zeit did a good breakdown. Unless you are looking at fields like medicine or law where you need a professional body to accredit you, other fields may not need a c9 university

[Coolkidsrock2]

Thank you floppy.


Looking at Xiamen and Wuhan.

Also looking at Xi’an Jiao Tong Liverpool University but am not sure it is recognised. It is recognised by the Royal Society of Chemistry.

A friend recommended University of Nottingham Ningbo as well.

[.010675zeit]

No offense to anyone, but one thing I don’t like about China universities is that many of them have adopted facial recognition technology to mark students’ attendance. China’s beginning to turn ‘Orwellian’ under the current president. Everything’s cashless and paid through Alipay, etc and even applying a China mobile no requires you to let the telco take your frontal+side portraits. They are keeping track of your every move. I dislike this sort of learning and working environment.


Another thing is, be prepared that the child will start to develop that ‘China mindset’ after spending her tweenage years with the Chinese who are known to be extremely nationalistic. I don’t like my teenager to be moulded in that Neo-Maoist manner. There are many signs that China is going left and reviving Maoism.

I still prefer western universities that promote democracy & freedom, and if not SG ones are also good.