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    2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

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    • J Offline
      jakoh
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      jakoh\" post_id=\"1950066\" time=\"1574845051\" user_id=\"151698:

      I chanced upon Mindchamps, and got to learn about the Thinking Cap programme.

      There are 3 main parts to the programme:-
      1) 20 weeks programme, one session per week, per session 3hrs, total 60hrs => Ard $3K
      2) Youth Challenge workshop, 3 days of total 24hrs => $1.2K
      3) Confident Communicator workshop, 2.5 days, total 16hrs => $800

      Mindchamps presents above as a total package, which costs ard $5K. Above cost breakdown is my estimation of the costs per the hours for each category.

      I attended their complimentary talk as my daughter is transiting to Sec 1 and was introduced to the Thinking Cap programme. While I thought it sounds like a holistic programme to help my daughter to drive a champion mindset, learning mindset, and a creative mindset to learn how to learn, and take on academic challenge moving forward, I am not sure if it works the way they sell it.

      I hope to gather some advice and feedbacks, be it positive or negative as that will help me to have better feel to make the right decision. It's not only financially $5K, it's also a time and effort commitment...

      Pls help! TIA.
      Pardon me if this is not the right forum to seek inputs for Mindchamp Thinking Cap Programme, but I googled and there ain’t much I could gather so thot of seeking help here...

      I hope some kind parents can help or direct me to any relevant discussion thread as I’m stuck with decision here!

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        phtthp
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        Your Mindchamp thread is here


        https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=87597

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          phtthp
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          6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1949995\" time=\"1574833355\" user_id=\"145858:

          sean wife\" post_id=\"1949985\" time=\"1574832064\" user_id=\"2790:[quote=\"sean wife\" post_id=1949985 time=1574832064 user_id=2790]Anyone knows when the SIS (COP, Highest, Median score) information on MOE website will be updated for this year's intake?
          This year, when I was checking, I only saw the updated info after Feb 2019. So for this year's PSLE, it will not be updated so soon.[/quote]
          2019 median compilation will only be out Next year 2020 Term 2

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            phtthp
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            eelynnah\" post_id=\"1949902\" time=\"1574819743\" user_id=\"28296:

            Hi all, may I ask about the Third Language Eligibilty, how to fill in to S1 Opt Form, as we can only choose one language from same category.. so it means, let’s say

            1st choice: Japanese (Category 3),
            2nd choice must be a language from Category 1 or 2
            so I can’t put 2nd choice: French as it is category 3, right?
            You are allowed to put (eg).

            1) Japanese
            2) Malay (Asian language)

            But, not allowed to input

            1) Japanese
            2) French

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              Timmy21
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              nite\" post_id=\"1950004\" time=\"1574834308\" user_id=\"64247:

              Assumption. Top 2% to 3% of cohort.
              You will never now as MOE doesn't reveal much. You can only assume.

              Assume there are ~200 IS places per school on average. Total ~2400 across 12 schools.
              Top 1/3 works out to ~800 who got 261 at least.

              Total cohort ~40k PSLE (2019) students.

              800/40000 works out to ~2%

              I assumed ~1000 got 261 at least. So I arrived at 2.5%. No fixed numbers.

              Beryeo\" post_id=\"1949851\" time=\"1574811644\" user_id=\"180588:

              Hi nite

              How u arrive at the top 2.5% for ESIS cutoff?

              MOE might not use number of indep sch places to compute ESIS. It might be computed like this:
              typically indep schools take in roughly top 10% of each cohort, and that T-score hovers around 250. By ranking the top 10% students who are SG citizens n drawing a line to demarcate the top 1/3 of this pool of students, the ESIS qualifying Tscore can be determined.

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                nite
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                ESIS cutoff as of 2019 is 261 from MOE. From their website,


                Quoted text:

                The ESIS are awarded to Singaporean students who are in the top one-third of the total number of Secondary 1 students admitted to all IS, based on PSLE results (before bonus points).

                It is also awarded to Primary 6 Gifted Education Programme (GEP) Singaporean students who meet the P6 GEP promotion criteria and are enrolled in the Integrated Programme (IP) of an IS at S1.

                The quantum of the award is $2,400, or the annual school fees charged by the IS less the annual amount of school and standard miscellaneous fees paid by students in government/ government-aided schools, whichever is lower.

                Timmy21\" post_id=\"1950098\" time=\"1574859188\" user_id=\"122721:
                nite\" post_id=\"1950004\" time=\"1574834308\" user_id=\"64247:

                Assumption. Top 2% to 3% of cohort.
                You will never now as MOE doesn't reveal much. You can only assume.

                Assume there are ~200 IS places per school on average. Total ~2400 across 12 schools.
                Top 1/3 works out to ~800 who got 261 at least.

                Total cohort ~40k PSLE (2019) students.

                800/40000 works out to ~2%

                I assumed ~1000 got 261 at least. So I arrived at 2.5%. No fixed numbers.

                [quote=Beryeo post_id=1949851 time=1574811644 user_id=180588]Hi nite

                How u arrive at the top 2.5% for ESIS cutoff?

                MOE might not use number of indep sch places to compute ESIS. It might be computed like this:
                typically indep schools take in roughly top 10% of each cohort, and that T-score hovers around 250. By ranking the top 10% students who are SG citizens n drawing a line to demarcate the top 1/3 of this pool of students, the ESIS qualifying Tscore can be determined.[/quote]

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                  Timmy21
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                  nite\" post_id=\"1950102\" time=\"1574861207\" user_id=\"64247:

                  ESIS cutoff as of 2019 is 261 from MOE. From their website,

                  Quoted text:

                  The ESIS are awarded to Singaporean students who are in the top one-third of the total number of Secondary 1 students admitted to all IS, based on PSLE results (before bonus points).

                  It is also awarded to Primary 6 Gifted Education Programme (GEP) Singaporean students who meet the P6 GEP promotion criteria and are enrolled in the Integrated Programme (IP) of an IS at S1.

                  The quantum of the award is $2,400, or the annual school fees charged by the IS less the annual amount of school and standard miscellaneous fees paid by students in government/ government-aided schools, whichever is lower.

                  Timmy21\" post_id=\"1950098\" time=\"1574859188\" user_id=\"122721:

                  [quote=nite post_id=1950004 time=1574834308 user_id=64247]Assumption. Top 2% to 3% of cohort.
                  You will never now as MOE doesn't reveal much. You can only assume.

                  Assume there are ~200 IS places per school on average. Total ~2400 across 12 schools.
                  Top 1/3 works out to ~800 who got 261 at least.

                  Total cohort ~40k PSLE (2019) students.

                  800/40000 works out to ~2%

                  I assumed ~1000 got 261 at least. So I arrived at 2.5%. No fixed numbers.

                  MOE might not use number of indep sch places to compute ESIS. It might be computed like this:
                  typically indep schools take in roughly top 10% of each cohort, and that T-score hovers around 250. By ranking the top 10% students who are SG citizens n drawing a line to demarcate the top 1/3 of this pool of students, the ESIS qualifying Tscore can be determined.

                  [/quote]it's a bit confusing wat the \"2019\" refers to. Is it based on statistical data of the 2019 Sec 1 cohort? If yes, then this score of 261 has little relevance to the 2019 students who just collected their results last week. If the data is for this year's PSLE students, then how to derive the ESIS score at this point in time, given tat the posting of students to indep sch has not been done yet. 🤷

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                    phtthp
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                    Timmy21\" post_id=\"1949994\" time=\"1574833265\" user_id=\"122721:

                    ttlkbs\" post_id=\"1949990\" time=\"1574832905\" user_id=\"13451:

                    If my kid scored 246 + 2 and applied for a SAP school, does the school consider his score as 246 or 248?

                    the SAP school will treat him as a 248 T-score. I hope u have submitted ur choices by now....if not, hurry up becos deadline is at 3 pm today.

                    Since all have submitted by 3 pm today , just wait for Friday morning (20 Dec) sms S1 posting results

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                      peasants
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                      phtthp\" post_id=\"1950125\" time=\"1574866463\" user_id=\"35251:

                      Timmy21\" post_id=\"1949994\" time=\"1574833265\" user_id=\"122721:

                      [quote=ttlkbs post_id=1949990 time=1574832905 user_id=13451]If my kid scored 246 + 2 and applied for a SAP school, does the school consider his score as 246 or 248?

                      the SAP school will treat him as a 248 T-score. I hope u have submitted ur choices by now....if not, hurry up becos deadline is at 3 pm today.

                      Since all have submitted by 3 pm today , just wait for Friday morning (20 Dec) sms S1 posting results[/quote]Another weeks of waiting! Then follow by appeal for some. Last year quite drama due to unexpected fall and rise of COP. Hope this year is more predictable.

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                        aloralora
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                        One month to chill…

                        Enjoy this time with your dd or ds

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