Secondary School Chinese

[MerlionInGermany]

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IP students need only to take O-level Higher Chinese (\" gao hua\") paper, in Year 4.

Even though IP students need not take any
O-level Standard Chinese (\"bu-hua\") in Year 3 whatsoever, but

If the IP students want (prefer) to take, are they allowed to, inside IP schools ?

I am curious. Why would IP students want to take Standard Chinese O Level papers in Year 3 if they won't be taking O Levels in Year 4? :scratchhead:

I think it is a hypothetical question.
Because quite simply,
- if the IP student is not strong in Higher Chinese, he/she would drop HCL and take O level CL in sec 4.
- if the IP student is not strong in Higher Chinese but somehow the school does not allow him/her to switch to CL, then this student will continue with HCL and go on to JC1 and take 2 Chinese exams in JC1, which I observe is quite standard across a few IP schools.

Also, if quite early on, the student does not think he/she wants to take HCL, he/she could prob opt to join IP schools that do not make HCL compulsory.

[qms]

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I think it is a hypothetical question.
Because quite simply,
- if the IP student is not strong in Higher Chinese, he/she would drop HCL and take O level CL in sec 4.
- if the IP student is not strong in Higher Chinese but somehow the school does not allow him/her to switch to CL, then this student will continue with HCL and go on to JC1 and take 2 Chinese exams in JC1, which I observe is quite standard across a few IP schools.

Also, if quite early on, the student does not think he/she wants to take HCL, he/she could prob opt to join IP schools that do not make HCL compulsory.

:thankyou:

So,

1. For a student who is weak in Chinese and chooses to take Standard Chinese, regardless of the O Levels results, the student still needs to take H1 Chinese in Year 5, right? So, is it compulsory for the student to take the O Levels Standard Chinese papers in the first place?

2. Which IP school does not make HCL compulsory?

[MerlionInGermany]

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MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1981583\" time=\"1592650556\" user_id=\"2964:

I think it is a hypothetical question.
Because quite simply,
- if the IP student is not strong in Higher Chinese, he/she would drop HCL and take O level CL in sec 4.
- if the IP student is not strong in Higher Chinese but somehow the school does not allow him/her to switch to CL, then this student will continue with HCL and go on to JC1 and take 2 Chinese exams in JC1, which I observe is quite standard across a few IP schools.

Also, if quite early on, the student does not think he/she wants to take HCL, he/she could prob opt to join IP schools that do not make HCL compulsory.

:thankyou:

So,

1. For a student who is weak in Chinese and chooses to take Standard Chinese, regardless of the O Levels results, the student still needs to take H1 Chinese in Year 5, right? So, is it compulsory for the student to take the O Levels Standard Chinese papers in the first place?

2. Which IP school does not make HCL compulsory?

1. I think yes, regardless of your O level Chinese results, you will still need to take H1 Chinese in JC1. But that does not mean you can skip the O level because if I am not mistaken, a min D7 grade in o level MT is the prerequisite to go to JC.

2. I know it is not compulsory in RGS to take from sec 1. And I am guessing it is not compulsory in the non SAP IP. Guess only, I dont really know people in non SAP IP except for RGS. And I think there are several schools that allow you to drop it along the way and switch to Chinese.

[sky minecrafter]

MerlionInGermany:

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2. I know it is not compulsory in RGS to take from sec 1. And I am guessing it is not compulsory in the non SAP IP. Guess only, I dont really know people in non SAP IP except for RGS. And I think there are several schools that allow you to drop it along the way and switch to Chinese.

MiG has correctly guessed.

[sky minecrafter]

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Hello!
Sorry, I just saw the message in the inbox...

https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/94904031

Jmo, with the 议论 structure in mind, read sample writings widely. I can't say for Chinese specifically, but to prepare for KI, my child picked a few topics, and read up (library) reference books (which are like mini theses) about them intensively.
https://www.diyifanwen.com/zuowen/chuzhongyilunwenzuowen/, for example: https://www.diyifanwen.com/zuowen/chuzhongyilunwenzuowen/1013987.htm, http://www.ruiwen.com/zuowen/yilunwen/2146267.html

[phtthp]

Thanks very much, sky

[sunnyjenny]

My boy is in S1 express chinese class. When in pri sch, I will ensure he finishes both chinese textbook A and B. This time in sec sch, I found out that not all the chapters are taught and will not be tested in exams either. Maybe only 50% of textbook chapters are covered and tested. I am rather concern with his teacher’s decision on this. If all his sec sch chinese teacher makes the same choice, he will only know 50% of his chinese textbook by O levels.

[chenlaoshi]

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My boy is in S1 express chinese class. When in pri sch, I will ensure he finishes both chinese textbook A and B. This time in sec sch, I found out that not all the chapters are taught and will not be tested in exams either. Maybe only 50% of textbook chapters are covered and tested. I am rather concern with his teacher's decision on this. If all his sec sch chinese teacher makes the same choice, he will only know 50% of his chinese textbook by O levels.

I'm afraid you will realise this is the way things will continue through the subsequent levels, sunnyjenny.

The 3 lessons in each chapter are 讲读课，导读课 and 自读课。As the name suggests, teachers normally skip 自读课 in class and leave it to the students to do self directed learning. The contents in 自读课 are partially reviewed in the 活动本。

O'Level is different from PSLE in the sense that words and phrases tested in PSLE's 语文应用 section is within syllabus scope but O'Level is not. You will notice that the syllabus 词语 (colored words in the passages) in each lesson of the Sec sch textbook is not extensive too. It is therefore necessary to read beyond the textbook. Exposure to more passages through cloze passage and comprehension practices is a good start.

[sunnyjenny]

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sunnyjenny\" post_id=\"1981959\" time=\"1592912743\" user_id=\"59538:

My boy is in S1 express chinese class. When in pri sch, I will ensure he finishes both chinese textbook A and B. This time in sec sch, I found out that not all the chapters are taught and will not be tested in exams either. Maybe only 50% of textbook chapters are covered and tested. I am rather concern with his teacher's decision on this. If all his sec sch chinese teacher makes the same choice, he will only know 50% of his chinese textbook by O levels.

I'm afraid you will realise this is the way things will continue through the subsequent levels, sunnyjenny.

The 3 lessons in each chapter are 讲读课，导读课 and 自读课。As the name suggests, teachers normally skip 自读课 in class and leave it to the students to do self directed learning. The contents in 自读课 are partially reviewed in the 活动本。

O'Level is different from PSLE in the sense that words and phrases tested in PSLE's 语文应用 section is within syllabus scope but O'Level is not. You will notice that the syllabus 词语 (colored words in the passages) in each lesson of the Sec sch textbook is not extensive too. It is therefore necessary to read beyond the textbook. Exposure to more passages through cloze passage and comprehension practices is a good start.

Thank you chenlaoshi, I was not aware of the 3 types of lessons in his chinese textbook. As compared to other subjects, there are no past year papers to practice with. And the number of chinese assessment books at bookstore are limited too. I am currently using 强化练习. Are there more others you can recommend to get?

[chenlaoshi]

sunnyjenny\" post_id=\"1982012\" time=\"1592957988\" user_id=\"59538:

Thank you chenlaoshi, I was not aware of the 3 types of lessons in his chinese textbook. As compared to other subjects, there are no past year papers to practice with. And the number of chinese assessment books at bookstore are limited too. I am currently using 强化练习. Are there more others you can recommend to get?

Don't mention it, sunnyjenny. There's a brief introduction regarding these 3 types of lesson at the front of the textbook (at the preface, before contents page) and at the type of lesson is also listed at bottom left/right hand corner of each page next to the page number.

You may want to take a look at:

- 每周华文课文复习 Chinese Weekly Revision series (that comes in 1A and 1B books) by EPH for topical revision.
- 中一快捷模拟试卷 Secondary Chinese Mock Test Papers Sec 1 by MC for general practice tailored towards O Level paper 2 format (https://www.goguru.com.sg/secondary-chinese-mock-test-papers-sec-1) --> do note that some school's lower Sec CL/HCL exam format may differ from O Level's (but there's no harm working on compre skills and expanding range of vocab)