Kid's Social Life : Can Schools Interfere?
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When I read all these replies, I can most of you feel what the teacher did is right as it shows she really cares for us and that is a point - a VERY GOOD one.
Firstly, I was not in my best form when i started this topic, but now with a renewed mindset i want to look at things from a different angle.
I think first and foremost i have to straighten out some facts. I specificly mentioned that she reprimand the 2 boys for use the words f**k and b***h rampantly. It was brought up on every sentenced they typed and every comment they posted. on that even i feel they deserved to be reprimanded for such disgusting behaviour. however others did use it but like once in a blue moon and at times when they were mad or referring to popular songs with that word in the title, i mean come on there are many songs like that these days. For example, a friend of mine put her status as big booty b***hes and you should have seen the teacher's reaction. if the words are scarsely mentioned and when they were used they were not targeted to hurt a specific person then i think teachers should loosen up and give us a little freedom.
I also think that teachers should not be so uptight about us using shit. Even the most civilised people use from time to time. Dammit was the word of the teachers time and shit is no worse. its shorter and actually saves energy :lol: social networking sites are places we tend to vent our feelings and as long it is not offending what is wrong in that? (After all, in P6 you feel the heat)
I guess i have given enough food for thought. Look forward to reading more replies.
P.S. I mentioned that my classmates were outraged not me. I hate social networking sites and find it a bore so i don't have facebook. this teacher i am talking about is a really nice, friendly and caring techaer and she has taught me since P5. i do have a lot of respect for her but i don't know whether what she did is acceptable. she can be unreasonable at times
P.P.S. At least com lab was air conditioned. heavenly after P.E. :lol: -
Coming from a parent with young kids, I feel I cannot stop my kids from being exposed to, or using swear words. But I would encourage them to think seriously the difference between saying and putting it in print.
When you are alone, or in a private room, shouting such may not matter. But when you put it in print, it’s a reflection of yourself - and like what Chief say, you are an extension of the school. For instance, if many of the kids in a school swear and put in profanities online, and are defiant to authority for no reason, I seriously doubt many people will look favourably at EVERYONE from that particular school.
When I was in JC, there was a teacher who couldn’t assert herself and was constantly heckled during lectures. I felt pity for the teacher, and only disgust at those boys. So what if those are the top brains of the nation…in my mind, if those who could not behave and who could not even show some support to someone valiantly trying to do her job, they are no better than cockroaches.
Understand that swearing and using profanities may make one feel grownup (I went through that phase also), but since then, I have also learnt that it’s just not socially acceptable and in fact is a super big putoff. It’s ok to vent, just that the venue needs be appropriate.
At first I thought the nick MOE_Hater would be someone who’s just one track minded…am happy to say that I am sooo wrong.
And to all the teachers (esp that teacher mentioned by MOE_Hater), I salute to you all and cannot give enough thanks that you are still actively serving the nation. DH and I are those type of parents who will pass a cane to the teacher to use - but then I also want to know when that happens (so I can go back and cane one more time). Not all parents blindly side with their kids…at least not in my household. -
insider:
I assume the students mentioned in the case are around their teens.
MOE Hater:
Err... it seems that they are in P6??social networking sites are places we tend to vent our feelings and as long it is not offending what is wrong in that? (After all, in P6 you feel the heat)
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RRMummy:
So true. you're the first person to realise that i am in p6 not in sec school. You have eagle-eyed vision. I suppose it is the uncanny ability of mothersinsider:
I assume the students mentioned in the case are around their teens.
MOE Hater:
Err... it seems that they are in P6??social networking sites are places we tend to vent our feelings and as long it is not offending what is wrong in that? (After all, in P6 you feel the heat)
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MOE Hater:
Hi MOE Hater, :lol: the eyes for details comes with practice..RRMummy:
Err... it seems that they are in P6??
So true. you're the first person to realise that i am in p6 not in sec school. You have eagle-eyed vision. I suppose it is the uncanny ability of mothers
You write very well and I guess that's why some of us thought that you are in sec school. I hope that you will manage to channel away your frustration towards your teachers. After all, there is only a couple of months to go and you will have to leave them to pursue your next chapter.
You sound smart and I'm quite sure being here and seeing the comments from the parents who responded gives you the other perspective to the issue. Ponder on it. I'm sure you will see the light.
Good luck on your exams!! :celebrate: (beer change to coke, can?!) -
To all students reading this thread,
Everyone has a different role to play in school. Thats why there are discipline masters and consellors. One is to play the black face and the other, white face. Typically, most teachers would play the role of teaching academic. Some, would go to the extend to teach moral issues, show care and concern.
Just remember, whenever your teachers, parents or friends are upset about your behaviour or wrong doings, this prove one thing - because they care for you, because you have a place in their heart. Why should the teacher waste her energy, create high pressure in herself, make herself upset, make students to dislike her by doing all these? Who are these students to her? Just a few normal students out of the thousands she has taught. What benefit does she gain?
I feel very upset when I hear students say they hate this teacher, hate that teacher. Its so unfair to the teachers.
p/s : I am not a teacher -
I really agree with daisyt, never use \"hate\". It's such a strong word and I see the nick with hate in it.
In fact, I am appalled in general by the casual language of the young people these days, especially what I read in blogs. There are 3 reasons I can think of:
1. Schools are busy delivering curriculum and have less time for \"values\" lesson. In fact the most valuable take-away from a school is the good sense of pride that one can have for oneself which will in turn turn into respect for others as well, not the ABCs and 123s.
2. Stress as many claimed, hence wayward behaviour is one form of release
3. The cry out loud for attention. I know youngsters learn from some famous bloggers to write in a provocative way to attract attention. The most shocking they are, the more attention they receive. Famous or infamous...it does not matter.
And the answer to the above is??? Values....if it is not in the DNA soon enough, it will never be there..
I cannot say enough about values here so I will not try, all I want to say is \"it takes a village\" to raise a child. So whoever has responsibility for a child will have the right to exercise discipline on them, that is obviously very lacking in today's context resulting in so many behavioural issues, and not if a child is gifted or not.
Lastly, I want to share my experiences with teachers. I have the most pleasant experiences and the worst experiences with MOE teachers. At the end of the day, I choose to remember the good ones. Why? MOE teachers are not paid alot, at least that is the reason to deter me to be one, so I would understand their frustrations and words or actions may come out wrongly for them sometimes. So that is bearable in my opinion as long as they don't start to physically or verbally abuse the children deliberately with vendetta in them, I draw the line there. As for pleasant MOE teachers even for unpleasant things they have to execute, I have extra respect for them for going the extra mile because MOE teaching is a \"thankless\" job except in enrichment centres where the commercial gains are lucrative!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: -
TS writes very well for a P6 student. Impressive!
Your teacher did her job.
I don’t understand the fascination with swear words. It is unbecoming and uncivilised.
Even the word ‘shit’. It is usually not acceptable in polite conversation. You try using that word in office or at a professional meeting. See what happens.
Young people need to learn that the path to success is NOT through swear words.
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