IP vs O level
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phankao:
Integrated programme only refers to the programme that certified schools offer. Please note that HCIS is NOT HCI. Same for SOTA, we don't call that IP.xxjustakidxx:
HCIS is NOT IP.
It is a 6-year through-train programme. No O-levels.
http://www2.hcis.edu.sg/joomla/hcis9/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&Itemid=56
http://www.hcis.edu.sg/ -
Bentan:
I was so shocked :shock: by the lack of knowledge you have on the IP Programme and was even ignorant enough to make the suggestion to offer IP to the \"not-so-bright students\".The most important difference between IP and O-Level is the spread of syllabus, especially in Sec-3 and Sec-4. IP students get 4 years to study the full Secondary Syllabus. O-level students get only 3.5 year to study the full Secondary Syllabus. The last half of O-level year is spent on revision, preparing for O-level.
Some may think that half a year does not really make any difference in learning and grading. In actual fact it does make significant difference. Reason being that the O-level is testing mostly on the leanings in Sec-3 and Sec-4. This makes the Sec-3 year exceptionally challenging as the dosage is 2/3 of the combine of Sec-3 and Sec-4 syllabus. For the IP students, they study equal amounts in both Sec-3 and Sec-4.
As far as I know, all IP teachers, IP students and their parents would say that IP is better than O-Level. It is interesting to note that in our present education system; only the bright students are offered IP. In reality, it is the not-so-bright students that need this system more as it would allow them to tackle their secondary syllabus better by spreading it out more evenly. Let’s hope that one day our education system is improved to allow the not-so-bright students to also opt for IP, rather than struggling hard in their last 18 month of secondary education.
For your information, IP students start on the JC curriculum way before mainstream students. It it totally hilarious that you think they spend 4 full years to finish their O-Level syllabus. Doesn't matter if you enter the IP Programme in Yr 1 or Yr 3, you'll start on the JC curriculum straight away together with the O-Level work. There's a reason why only the brightest of students in their batch can enter IP. I hope that you will not make such ignorant comments in the future which will mislead the pubilc.
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FurrySK:
Agreed.
I was so shocked :shock: by the lack of knowledge you have on the IP Programme and was even ignorant enough to make the suggestion to offer IP to the \"not-so-bright students\".Bentan:
The most important difference between IP and O-Level is the spread of syllabus, especially in Sec-3 and Sec-4. IP students get 4 years to study the full Secondary Syllabus. O-level students get only 3.5 year to study the full Secondary Syllabus. The last half of O-level year is spent on revision, preparing for O-level.
Some may think that half a year does not really make any difference in learning and grading. In actual fact it does make significant difference. Reason being that the O-level is testing mostly on the leanings in Sec-3 and Sec-4. This makes the Sec-3 year exceptionally challenging as the dosage is 2/3 of the combine of Sec-3 and Sec-4 syllabus. For the IP students, they study equal amounts in both Sec-3 and Sec-4.
As far as I know, all IP teachers, IP students and their parents would say that IP is better than O-Level. It is interesting to note that in our present education system; only the bright students are offered IP. In reality, it is the not-so-bright students that need this system more as it would allow them to tackle their secondary syllabus better by spreading it out more evenly. Let’s hope that one day our education system is improved to allow the not-so-bright students to also opt for IP, rather than struggling hard in their last 18 month of secondary education. For your information, IP students start on the JC curriculum way before mainstream students. It it totally hilarious that you think they spend 4 full years to finish their O-Level syllabus. Doesn't matter if you enter the IP Programme in Yr 1 or Yr 3, you'll start on the JC curriculum straight away together with the O-Level work. There's a reason why only the brightest of students in their batch can enter IP. I hope that you will not make such ignorant comments in the future which will mislead the pubilc.
The IP program specifically stated that by not doing the 'O' level, the time freed up will allow the students to do the subjects more in depth and at faster pace.... -
verykiasu2010:
Agreed.
I was so shocked :shock: by the lack of knowledge you have on the IP Programme and was even ignorant enough to make the suggestion to offer IP to the \"not-so-bright students\".FurrySK:
[quote=\"Bentan\"]The most important difference between IP and O-Level is the spread of syllabus, especially in Sec-3 and Sec-4. IP students get 4 years to study the full Secondary Syllabus. O-level students get only 3.5 year to study the full Secondary Syllabus. The last half of O-level year is spent on revision, preparing for O-level.
Some may think that half a year does not really make any difference in learning and grading. In actual fact it does make significant difference. Reason being that the O-level is testing mostly on the leanings in Sec-3 and Sec-4. This makes the Sec-3 year exceptionally challenging as the dosage is 2/3 of the combine of Sec-3 and Sec-4 syllabus. For the IP students, they study equal amounts in both Sec-3 and Sec-4.
As far as I know, all IP teachers, IP students and their parents would say that IP is better than O-Level. It is interesting to note that in our present education system; only the bright students are offered IP. In reality, it is the not-so-bright students that need this system more as it would allow them to tackle their secondary syllabus better by spreading it out more evenly. Let’s hope that one day our education system is improved to allow the not-so-bright students to also opt for IP, rather than struggling hard in their last 18 month of secondary education. For your information, IP students start on the JC curriculum way before mainstream students. It it totally hilarious that you think they spend 4 full years to finish their O-Level syllabus. Doesn't matter if you enter the IP Programme in Yr 1 or Yr 3, you'll start on the JC curriculum straight away together with the O-Level work. There's a reason why only the brightest of students in their batch can enter IP. I hope that you will not make such ignorant comments in the future which will mislead the pubilc.
The IP program specifically stated that by not doing the 'O' level, the time freed up will allow the students to do the subjects more in depth and at faster pace....[/quote]And sec 1 students in IPs start working in depth using work from sec1 to sec 3, so by year 4, yes, they would already have covered some jC curriculum work. -
phankao:
And sec 1 students in IPs start working in depth using work from sec1 to sec 3, so by year 4, yes, they would already have covered some jC curriculum work.[/quote]for those kids who can make the cut and get into the IP program, good for them, as the normal \"express\" curriculum could be too boring for them, spending unnecessary time to prepare for exams that they would score anyway based on their continual assessments and consistence performance in sec 1,2 and 3
Agreed.verykiasu2010:
[quote=\"FurrySK\"]
I was so shocked :shock: by the lack of knowledge you have on the IP Programme and was even ignorant enough to make the suggestion to offer IP to the \"not-so-bright students\". For your information, IP students start on the JC curriculum way before mainstream students. It it totally hilarious that you think they spend 4 full years to finish their O-Level syllabus. Doesn't matter if you enter the IP Programme in Yr 1 or Yr 3, you'll start on the JC curriculum straight away together with the O-Level work. There's a reason why only the brightest of students in their batch can enter IP. I hope that you will not make such ignorant comments in the future which will mislead the pubilc.
The IP program specifically stated that by not doing the 'O' level, the time freed up will allow the students to do the subjects more in depth and at faster pace.... -
Bottom line - if have chance for IP? GO!
It is a much better ride. -
Just FYI, we are covering some of the sec 3 work in sec 1.
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As a student taking my PSLE this year,my parents prefer the O Level route,but i rather go for IP.My dad is okay with it,but my mom needs more convincing.
It is because for IP, you only need to take A Levels,which means if you do badly for A Levels,you wont have a certificate. Whereas, if you take O Levels then take A levels,you at least have a certificate.
It is just my opinion for i do not entertain nor like the idea of rushing through 4 years of secondary school education in less then 3.5 years. I wouldn’t want to live a fast-paced life of studying for O Levels and then A Levels. If i can get into IP, then i would be able to do more projects,learn more and have a fun secondary school life at my own comfortable, luxurious pace.
The benefits of IP is that you don’t just secure a place for your secondary education,you secure a place for your JC education too,without having to fight for that 3 points to get into top JCs like HCJC and RJC.
This is just my 2cts worth though. -
insider:
Hi insider, there is still opportunity for IP to get into poly. This is the extract from SP website on the admission page.
For me, I'll rather choose the non-IP way coz IP sort of will cut off the poly route completely. (my daughter can go IP but I advised her no coz of this reason and true enough now she is in poly...)
http://www.sp.edu.sg/wps/portal/vp-spws/spws.fsu.international.admissions#7
Integrated Programmes (including IB programmes in Singapore School system only)
Students from Integrated Programme (IP) Schools in Singapore who have completed the equivalent of Sec 4 as well as those who have graduated from IP schools can be considered for admission. Eligibility is similar to GCE 'O' level (please refer to Full-time Courses). Eligible candidates will be assessed based on their school performance, recommendations, tests and/or interviews.
For those who have completed the International Baccalaureate Diploma, the entry requirements are: For English, a grade 4 (1st Lang) or 5 (2nd Lang) is required except for Media & Communication and Applied Drama & Psychology courses where a grade 5 (1st Lang) or 6 (2nd Lang) is required; Maths and Relevant Subject* requires a minimum grade of 5. The Overall Aggregate should be at least 22 (based on 5 subjects including English, Maths & Relevant Subject).
Application is closed for the 2010 session.
Applicants may apply upon the release of the GCE 'O' level results in Jan 2010 (lasts for 5 calendar days). The actual dates will be announced later. Please apply here: Full-time Application. (This is only for those from Integrated Programmes in the Singapore School system).
For those with IB from Singapore Schools whose results will be released in early Jan, the application period coincides with that of the JAE (opens the day of GCE 'O' level results release and lasts for 5 calendar days). Application is online at this site: Full-time Application. -
An interesting news article I have found, would like to share.
They left IP for poly.
http://www.asiaone.com/News/Education/Story/A1Story20100412-209764.html
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