Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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tankee\" post_id=\"2026424\" time=\"1623064644\" user_id=\"6927:
Thank you, zac mom & tankee. Appreciated both your replies.
My guess is, the graduating classes will be first to resume in person classes. Since most of them would have received 1 dose by then. And more time critical for these students to be ready for their important exams.
The others will depends on trending of unlinked community cases, % of students received 1 dose, etc
last thing anyone want is right after resuming of in person classes, a school cluster follows.
That means, likely for graduation cohort 2021 Sec 4 O-level students to go back to school face-to-face for lessons, while
non-graduation cohort (Sec 1 to Sec 3 O-level & IP students) will \"depend on situation\", then decide. \"zou yi bu, kan yi bu\" -
phtthp\" post_id=\"2026432\" time=\"1623069225\" user_id=\"35251:
Thank you, zac mom & tankee. Appreciated both your replies.tankee\" post_id=\"2026424\" time=\"1623064644\" user_id=\"6927:
My guess is, the graduating classes will be first to resume in person classes. Since most of them would have received 1 dose by then. And more time critical for these students to be ready for their important exams.
The others will depends on trending of unlinked community cases, % of students received 1 dose, etc
last thing anyone want is right after resuming of in person classes, a school cluster follows.
That means, likely for graduation cohort 2021 Sec 4 O-level students to go back to school face-to-face for lessons, while
non-graduation cohort (Sec 1 to Sec 3 O-level & IP students) will \"depend on situation\", then decide. \"zou yi bu, kan yi bu\"
We have (JC2) Common Tests right after holidays
@Estéema. 👍🦾
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I wonder if there will be https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/9-in-10-graduating-students-in-spore-have-signed-up-for-covid-19-vaccination-chan-chun... Before the break (17May~), my (secondary school) kid had to sit one metre away from his project-mates, and hold discussions using hand gestures/ devices... ... And, there are a good bunch of project deadlines in Term 3... -
This sharing from a caregiver of someone with special needs who had to serve QO due to the cluster at cluster at MINDSville@Napiri shows there's still some way to go towards building an inclusive society. Sigh...
https://www.facebook.com/amyliakohhh/posts/10159407125424642
Another sharing from a mum on her son's struggles with swab tests:
https://www.facebook.com/friendsofasdfamilies/posts/3613263098897971 -
Definitions of vaccine by US CDC and dictionaries are that vaccine prevents infection of disease.
G also said before “vaccinate yourself to protect your elderly family members”.[quote]US CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm
Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease.
Cambridge
vaccine
a substance containing a virus or bacterium in a form that is not harmful, given to a person or animal to prevent them from getting the disease that the virus or bacterium causes:
Britannica
Vaccine, suspension of weakened, killed, or fragmented microorganisms or toxins or of antibodies or lymphocytes that is administered primarily to prevent disease.[/quote]So since when it evolves into the following that vaccine \"is meant to reduce probability of symptomatic infection.\"
Any basis of this changing of vaccine definition? Where is the link of this new definition? Quite puzzled
[quote]WE2012:
\"We must remember that Pfizer's and Moderna's definition of vaccine efficacy have and always been defined as efficacy against \"symptomatic infection\".
The key lesson from MINDSville is that it is impossible to achieve herd immunity from vaccination.
That is not the key function of vaccines developed by Pfizer and Moderna, that is meant to reduce probability of symptomatic infection.
Zac's mum:
“vaccinate to protect yourself from having to get oxygen support and/or death from Covid”, no longer protect from yourself from the disease
and no longer protect against spreading to friends, colleagues and family.
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sevenseals\" post_id=\"2026460\" time=\"1623126073\" user_id=\"124401:
So since when it evolves into the following that vaccine \"is meant to reduce probability of symptomatic infection.\"US CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm
Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease.
Cambridge
vaccine
a substance containing a virus or bacterium in a form that is not harmful, given to a person or animal to prevent them from getting the disease that the virus or bacterium causes:
Britannica
Vaccine, suspension of weakened, killed, or fragmented microorganisms or toxins or of antibodies or lymphocytes that is administered primarily to prevent disease.
Any basis of this changing of vaccine definition? Where is the link of this new definition? Quite puzzled
[quote]WE2012:
\"We must remember that Pfizer's and Moderna's definition of vaccine efficacy have and always been defined as efficacy against \"symptomatic infection\".
The key lesson from MINDSville is that it is impossible to achieve herd immunity from vaccination.
That is not the key function of vaccines developed by Pfizer and Moderna, that is meant to reduce probability of symptomatic infection.
Zac's mum:
“vaccinate to protect yourself from having to get oxygen support and/or death from Covid”, no longer protect from yourself from the disease
and no longer protect against spreading to friends, colleagues and family.
[/quote][/quote]
The definition of efficacy did not change. It has always been how the manufacturers defined it. Take a look at the \"The New England Journal of Medicine\" report below on the Pfizer vaccine trial in 2020. This article is published on 10th December 2020. In it, there is a paragraph under \"Efficacy\" that reads and I quote:
\"Confirmed Covid-19 was defined according to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) criteria as the presence of at least one of the following symptoms: fever, new or increased cough, new or increased shortness of breath, chills, new or increased muscle pain, new loss of taste or smell, sore throat, diarrhea, or vomiting, combined with a respiratory specimen obtained during the symptomatic period or within 4 days before or after it that was positive for SARS-CoV-2 by nucleic acid amplification–based testing, either at the central laboratory or at a local testing facility (using a protocol-defined acceptable test)\"
Due to definition of \"confirmed covid-19\" adopted in the vaccine trial, efficacy for this covid-19 vaccine is thus \"efficacy against symptomatic covid-19 infection\".
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577 -
WE2012,
It's good that you are doing research to make decisions, rather than blindly following media.
Unfortunately, your quote is from New England Journals of Medicines. NEJM is just a publisher and not a medical authority. Their quote on FDA has not been updated.
The update from Centre for Disease Control and Prevention on May 21, 2021 says that:
\"people who are fully vaccinated with a currently authorized mRNA vaccine are protected against asymptomatic infection and...\"
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html
That means vaccine not just protect against symptomatic infection but also protect against asymptomatic infection. That is their goal. Unfortunately, what happened at Mindsville@napiri where many vaccinated people got infected, is far short of their goal.
https://postimg.cc/rKw5qgrr -
sevenseals\" post_id=\"2026486\" time=\"1623152991\" user_id=\"124401:
Here are the CDC/FDA trial results for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines (both for adults). I don't want to partake in what the definition of a vaccine is/isn't or what the vaccine will/won't do, but these documents will show how efficacy was defined in the trials.
WE2012,
It's good that you are doing research to make decisions, rather than blindly following media.
Unfortunately, your quote is from New England Journals of Medicines. NEJM is just a publisher and not a medical authority. Their quote on FDA has not been updated.
The update from Centre for Disease Control and Prevention on May 21, 2021 says that:
\"people who are fully vaccinated with a currently authorized mRNA vaccine are protected against asymptomatic infection and...\"
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html
That means vaccine not just protect against symptomatic infection but also protect against asymptomatic infection. That is their goal. Unfortunately, what happened at Mindsville@napiri where many vaccinated people got infected, is far short of their goal.
https://postimg.cc/rKw5qgrr
Pfizer (see PDF page 14):
https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download
Moderna (see PDF page 13):
https://www.fda.gov/media/144434/download -
sevenseals\" post_id=\"2026486\" time=\"1623152991\" user_id=\"124401:
Thank you for the link. I had not seen this page with the update.
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The update from Centre for Disease Control and Prevention on May 21, 2021 says that:
\"people who are fully vaccinated with a currently authorized mRNA vaccine are protected against asymptomatic infection and...\"
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html
That means vaccine not just protect against symptomatic infection but also protect against asymptomatic infection. That is their goal.
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SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2026488\" time=\"1623153781\" user_id=\"188234:
Welcome to the wonderful world of American word games. Unfortunately, virus don't read English.
Here are the CDC/FDA trial results for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines (both for adults). I don't want to partake in what the definition of a vaccine is/isn't or what the vaccine will/won't do, but these documents will show how efficacy was defined in the trials.
Pfizer (see PDF page 14):
https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download
Moderna (see PDF page 13):
https://www.fda.gov/media/144434/download
Incidentally, MINDSville is now what? 30 out of 33? That's literally 0%, with rounding. 1 more and we may be in negative territory. :siam:
I really wish our govt would stop regurgitating the bs from the US and UK health authorities. The past year has shown that they really don't know nuts about the virus. Just give it to us straight. Vaccination may not protect against infection, but so far it is very effective protection against getting seriously ill from the virus if one does get infected. Serious short term contraindications are very rare for all vaccines. Everything else is up in the air.
Seriously. If people want choices and you want to get the vaccination rate up, give them the choice. And don't put bs obstacles in the way.
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