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    Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

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      .010675zeit
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      sky minecrafter\" post_id=\"2026566\" time=\"1623231814\" user_id=\"130531:[quote=\"sky minecrafter\" post_id=2026566 time=1623231814 user_id=130531]
      [quote]...Despite all the chats in Telegram groups and other social media sites, I was very surprised by the high take-up rate of vaccination slots...
      The highly sought-after weekend slots are snapped up in an instant...[/quote]
      IRL... my teens were eagerly awaiting their invite link. Same for their frens; like Estéema's kiddo - well-informed, talked about it among peers, & made their own decisions.

      (We compared)...smaller Pfizer-vaccination centres are not open (that is, \"missing\" in the list) to teens. Also, certain timeslots (for example, Saturdays are \"missing\"). I had spoken in-person with one of the clinics, & was told that Moh manages the vac-appointment schedules, such that even the clinics themselves would not know when their new slots will open up[/quote] :thankyou:
      I didn't pick pte/poly clinics, but only considered large VCs in CC/Raffles City.

      Yeah, like 9 out of 10 have booked and some had already taken last week.

      No, I did see Sat slots on my screen, and in fact our first pick was Sat AM.

      The Pfizer VC choices do change each time you log in to change appt.
      If someone changes his appt, his old slot will appear at your next log in.
      Anyway, I've made 1 switch to a better timing, after someone released his Fri PM slot at a VC nearer to my area.

      https://postimg.cc/Q95xJxQH

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      • sky minecrafterS Offline
        sky minecrafter
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        Estéema\" post_id=\"2026709\" time=\"1623388305\" user_id=\"66413:
        Mine hoping that school will resume so he can do proj with teammates & get his internship on-site. No indication from school as yet though. (1) Really think it’s good that almost 90% of his classmates had their vaccination. Hope they stay safe with all nec regimen of hygiene & safety measures.

        Hi!! (1) Yes - our CCA leaders (14-15 year olds) were sharing that they have ALL, booked/ taken their first Covid-vaccine dose

        Estéema, could you share with us your experiences with the diy covid test kits, when you can? Thanks!!

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        • EstéemaE Offline
          Estéema
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          sky minecrafter\" post_id=\"2027418\" time=\"1623920506\" user_id=\"130531:[quote=\"sky minecrafter\" post_id=2027418 time=1623920506 user_id=130531]
          Estéema\" post_id=\"2026709\" time=\"1623388305\" user_id=\"66413:
          Mine hoping that school will resume so he can do proj with teammates & get his internship on-site. No indication from school as yet though. (1) Really think it’s good that almost 90% of his classmates had their vaccination. Hope they stay safe with all nec regimen of hygiene & safety measures.
          Hi!! (1) Yes - our CCA leaders (14-15 year olds) were sharing that they have ALL, booked/ taken their first Covid-vaccine dose

          Estéema, could you share with us your experiences with the diy covid test kits, when you can? Thanks!![/quote]
          Huh? DIY covid test kits? No experience leh

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            tankee\" post_id=\"2027411\" time=\"1623918203\" user_id=\"6927:

            JAKARTA: More than 350 Indonesian doctors have contracted COVID-19 despite being vaccinated with Sinovac and dozens have been hospitalised, officials said, as concerns rise about the efficacy of some vaccines against more virulent virus strains.

            Most of the doctors were asymptomatic and self-isolating at home, said Badai Ismoyo, head of the Kudus district health office in Central Java, but dozens were in hospital with high fevers and declining oxygen saturation levels.

            https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/indonesia-covid-19-doctors-hospitalised-delta-variant-vaccinated-15033196
            To put things in perspective

            https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-05-25/2-percent-of-breakthrough-infections-cause-covid-deaths-cdc

            - More than 10,000 \"vaccine breakthroughs\" in the US - a \"substantial undercount\".
            - 160 deaths.

            And they are not even talking about front line medical personnel or dealing with delta variant yet.

            But compare the difference in tone and emphasis of the reporting. :roll:

            I get it. Somebody needs to provoke a new Cold War. But I wonder sometimes why our own media feels the need to be brainless echo chamber.

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            • sharonkhooS Offline
              sharonkhoo
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              lee_yl\" post_id=\"2027409\" time=\"1623916826\" user_id=\"17023:

              Next year, there could be a new African variant. There was this HIV patient carrying 32 types of mutated Covid-19 viruses. It’s a matter of time before a new variant lands on our shores.

              We are hopeful but we can’t be 100% sure that vaccinated persons do not need hospitalization for next year’s new double/triple mutated variant, whatever you call it.

              Europe and USA have yet to experience the Delta variant whereas UK having experienced the Delta variant is extending their lockdown.
              Yes, there may well (almost certainly) be new variants, or new viruses, which may or may not be more deadly. But we can't be staying isolated while waiting for a risk-free period to start interacting etc. It's a judgement call when it will be \"low-risk\" enough. The authorities will have to find a suitable point in time without waiting for cases to go to 0 or vaccinations to reach 100%, and even either of those points are not risk-free. I guess since everyone has different risk appetites, no matter which point they choose, some/many will feel they've got it wrong!

              The UK isn't in lockdown any more. They have just postponed their final lifting of restrictions by 4 weeks as cases are on the rise again (due to Delta), though much lower than earlier in the year. There has been a gradual lifting of restrictions since around March. Since 17 May, they have been able to dine in restaurants, have gatherings of up to 6 indoors and up to 30 outdoors, and no masks required outdoors. There are still a no. of restrictions in place, though, so many people are upset that the planned lifting of everything has been postponed. They plan to offer vaccinations to everyone over 18 soon - I think they have reached 21yos already. Too late for my daughter - she will have to get her vaccination after she completes her SHN next month.

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                tankee\" post_id=\"2027411\" time=\"1623918203\" user_id=\"6927:

                https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/indonesia-covid-19-doctors-hospitalised-delta-variant-vaccinated-15033196
                Kudus' population is 92,000. Total 350 HCWs out of 5000 fully vaccinated with Sinovac, according to WaPo, USA Today, The Guardian, Nikkei, Reuters, BKK Post, NY Post. Only Xinhua News and The JKT Post do not mention ''Sinovac''. Actually it's only 0.07% HCWs. No need to worry.


                Also, sometimes it could be ''faint positive'' due to the inactivated virus 'spilling', as some Hubei experts have discovered? 😂

                https://udn.com/news/story/121707/5511336?utm_source=udnnews&utm_medium=fb&fbclid=IwAR0S8reyMnithjpKwoZuvXcBvHsnlIYmn0U_thXMaeg7IPiJxjfSSYLSmfg,專家研判是醫務人員為當事人接種疫苗時「外溢」所致,不具傳染性。
                所謂「外溢」即是「灑出來」,中國大陸目前提供的2019冠狀病毒疾病(COVID-19)疫苗都是滅活疫苗,疫苗本身帶有病毒,但經過特殊處理,毒性大減且沒有複製能力、傳染性。

                https://www.zaobao.com.sg/realtime/china/story20210605-1152236

                When a plant is under tremendous pressure to churn out millions and billions of https://www.hk01.com/%E7%A4%BE%E6%9C%83%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E/630424/%E6%B6%88%E6%81%AF-%E5%AE%98%E6%B6%8C%E6%8E%A5%E7%A8%AE%E4%B8%AD%E5%BF%83%E8%AD%B7%E5%A3%AB%E8%A6%86%E6%AA%A2%E7%B5%90%E6%9E%9C%E9%99%BD%E6%80%A7-%E6%96%99%E5%8F%97%E7%A7%91%E8%88%88%E7%96%AB%E8%8B%97%E6%BA%A2%E5%87%BA%E6%B1%A1%E6%9F%93%E7%92%B0%E5%A2%83, that was once live, its manufacturing SOP & QC might be compromised.

                Who manufactured those killed virus vaccines that Indonesia is now using? Was it fresh from the Beijing plant or the https://jakartaglobe.id/news/indonesia-administers-sinovac-vaccine-manufactured-by-bio-farma?

                https://kemlu.go.id/chicago/en/news/10690/fifteen-million-doses-of-covid-19-vaccine-raw-materials-arrived-in-indonesia, with raw materials (the killed virus & what nots) http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/asiapacific/2021-03/03/c_139779109.htm? Or directly from China?


                PS:
                https://postimg.cc/mh2zxLpx
                https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1723118587875968&id=100005335308340

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                • lee_ylL Offline
                  lee_yl
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                  slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2027441\" time=\"1623932165\" user_id=\"28674:

                  lee_yl\" post_id=\"2027409\" time=\"1623916826\" user_id=\"17023:

                  Next year, there could be a new African variant. There was this HIV patient carrying 32 types of mutated Covid-19 viruses. It’s a matter of time before a new variant lands on our shores.

                  We are hopeful but we can’t be 100% sure that vaccinated persons do not need hospitalization for next year’s new double/triple mutated variant, whatever you call it.

                  Europe and USA have yet to experience the Delta variant whereas UK having experienced the Delta variant is extending their lockdown.

                  Yes, there may well (almost certainly) be new variants, or new viruses, which may or may not be more deadly. But we can't be staying isolated while waiting for a risk-free period to start interacting etc. It's a judgement call when it will be \"low-risk\" enough. The authorities will have to find a suitable point in time without waiting for cases to go to 0 or vaccinations to reach 100%, and even either of those points are not risk-free. I guess since everyone has different risk appetites, no matter which point they choose, some/many will feel they've got it wrong!

                  The UK isn't in lockdown any more. They have just postponed their final lifting of restrictions by 4 weeks as cases are on the rise again (due to Delta), though much lower than earlier in the year. There has been a gradual lifting of restrictions since around March. Since 17 May, they have been able to dine in restaurants, have gatherings of up to 6 indoors and up to 30 outdoors, and no masks required outdoors. There are still a no. of restrictions in place, though, so many people are upset that the planned lifting of everything has been postponed. They plan to offer vaccinations to everyone over 18 soon - I think they have reached 21yos already. Too late for my daughter - she will have to get her vaccination after she completes her SHN next month.

                  https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/uk-britain-lockdown-extend-covid-19-virus-15014652

                  For lack of a better term, I conveniently used the common term used by mainstream media.

                  The Americans and Europeans still think that “Covid vaccine” really can stop transmission. Singapore is small, coupled with aggressive testing, we can see the picture very clearly by now that vaccinated folks can continue to get covid and pass on the virus. And we also experience the Delta variant as our predominant strain earlier than many other countries.

                  Perhaps, within the next 1 month or so, US and Europe will experience what we have gone through. And then they will realize that vaccine does not stop the transmission. Back to mask wearing, social distancing and the dreaded lockdowns.

                  No one is denying the need for S’pore to stay interconnected to the world. The challenge is how to stay open while still keeping safe.

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                    from June 21 :


                    dine-in for 2

                    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/dining-in-allowed-from-june-21-but-only-in-groups-of-2-as-spore-opts-for-calibrated-covid

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                      tankee
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                      SINGAPORE: Dining in at F&B outlets will resume from Jun 21 in groups of up to two people instead of five as previously planned.


                      The group size of two will also apply to indoor fitness activities with masks off.....

                      .....Groups of more than two people who are not from the same household will not be allowed to dine-in together at F&B outlets, even if they are split across multiple tables, said MOH in a separate media release. ...

                      .... Mr Wong said: “We allow people from the same household to have multiple tables, but they have to make very clear that they are from the same household, that is not new.... This means that a group of six family members, for instance, will not be able to sit together as a table of six, Mr Wong stressed....

                      https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-dining-in-resume-groups-of-2-people-jun-21-moh-15040520

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                      • sharonkhooS Offline
                        sharonkhoo
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                        lee_yl\" post_id=\"2027472\" time=\"1623996025\" user_id=\"17023:

                        No one is denying the need for S’pore to stay interconnected to the world. The challenge is how to stay open while still keeping safe.
                        I think we may have to change our definition of \"safe\". In earlier days, when we knew less, those who contracted Covid-19 got sicker, and fewer were vaccinated, \"safe\" meant not getting Covid-19 at all, and keeping the cases to as close to 0 as possible. Now, many cases are asymptomatic or with mild symptoms, and few end up seriously sick (this lower severity is attributed to more being vaccinated, even though the vaccines don't prevent transmission entirely). So a modified definition of \"safe\" may be needed, which allows for a certain level of transmission as long as the no. of seriously sick cases don't threaten to overwhelm our medical facilities. Perhaps short targeted lockdowns and testing (e.g. 1 mall or office building, a few residential blocks, etc.) will be carried out now and again when a cluster grows beyond a certain size, while the rest of the nation continues as per normal. I believe this is what we will get to once enough are vaccinated.

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