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    Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

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    • sharonkhooS Offline
      sharonkhoo
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      lee_yl\" post_id=\"2027646\" time=\"1624239467\" user_id=\"17023:

      Shifting of policy to accept that there will be some transmission doesn’t mean we must follow the westerners blindly to go unmasked after we attained a certain vaccination rate. After all, we have firsthand experience with the delta variant, being the first country outside India to have the delta variant as the predominant strain, and the accumulated empirical data is useful to guide us.
      No need to follow the westerners blindly!!

      What we know is that with the delta variant, even fully vaccinated folks still get ‘breakthrough’ covid infection, these positive cases still need to be quarantined to avoid wider spread of the virus as it is highly transmissible and the vulnerable groups may still die.

      Before a cure is out, let’s just continue to wear masks. Next year’s new variant will be how fatal, nobody knows.
      I agree with you - unmasking too quickly is really a bad idea! Especially in Singapore where even outdoor spaces are rarely so empty that you can safely be 1-2m apart from everyone all the time. Mask-wearinng can still be mandated, but I do want offices to open, religious and arts events, life events and group size limits to be increased (or lifted) as soon as possible. I don't want to have to wait too long while we chase a \"no transmission\" ideal. It sounds callous, but no disease prevention policy aims to prevent all deaths - e.g. how dengue and regular flu are handled. I especially feel for the generation of young people who have to miss out on CCAs, limit their social life, start work on Zoom, etc., and for the families which cannot celebrate festivals and life events in traditional ways.

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      • lee_ylL Offline
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        slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2027649\" time=\"1624241586\" user_id=\"28674:

        lee_yl\" post_id=\"2027646\" time=\"1624239467\" user_id=\"17023:

        Shifting of policy to accept that there will be some transmission doesn’t mean we must follow the westerners blindly to go unmasked after we attained a certain vaccination rate. After all, we have firsthand experience with the delta variant, being the first country outside India to have the delta variant as the predominant strain, and the accumulated empirical data is useful to guide us.
        No need to follow the westerners blindly!!

        What we know is that with the delta variant, even fully vaccinated folks still get ‘breakthrough’ covid infection, these positive cases still need to be quarantined to avoid wider spread of the virus as it is highly transmissible and the vulnerable groups may still die.

        Before a cure is out, let’s just continue to wear masks. Next year’s new variant will be how fatal, nobody knows.

        I agree with you - unmasking too quickly is really a bad idea! Especially in Singapore where even outdoor spaces are rarely so empty that you can safely be 1-2m apart from everyone all the time. Mask-wearinng can still be mandated, but I do want offices to open, religious and arts events, life events and group size limits to be increased (or lifted) as soon as possible. I don't want to have to wait too long while we chase a \"no transmission\" ideal. It sounds callous, but no disease prevention policy aims to prevent all deaths - e.g. how dengue and regular flu are handled. I especially feel for the generation of young people who have to miss out on CCAs, limit their social life, start work on Zoom, etc., and for the families which cannot celebrate festivals and life events in traditional ways.

        I am not sure if our govt is chasing after “no transmission”. 1 block of flats found with covid viral fragments, whole block residents needs to be swabbed. I am worried as time goes by, we will all suffer from Covid fatigue. I wonder after we reopen up the borders and economy, cases will definitely shoot up and can ring fencing still work then.

        What the young generation missed out, hopefully it’s only for these two years. Scientists worldwide are researching anti-viral med and hopefully we don’t have to wait too long for that.

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        • sevensealsS Offline
          sevenseals
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          lee_yl\" post_id=\"2027741\" time=\"1624349363\" user_id=\"17023:

          Scientists worldwide are researching anti-viral med and hopefully we don’t have to wait too long for that.
          Pharma do not want us to use anti-viral med, as it will make their vaccine obsolete/unnecessary. When anti-viral is effective, very few people will die of covid. And there will be no fear factor and their hundreds of billion dollars vaccine revenue per year will be down the drain. They will try their very best to make every online platform censor any such news about anti-viral med from you the public. But keep searching, you can find it !!!!

          Let's see if this post will be deleted!

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          • R Offline
            raysusan
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            https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/uk-ministers-to-be-advised-against-mass-vaccination-for-children-15023280

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            • emohE Offline
              emoh
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              https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/15-new-cases-of-locally-transmitted-covid-19-infection_22_Jun2021

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                ankhlet.06013gmail.06013com
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                sevenseals\" post_id=\"2027750\" time=\"1624351156\" user_id=\"124401:

                lee_yl\" post_id=\"2027741\" time=\"1624349363\" user_id=\"17023:

                Scientists worldwide are researching anti-viral med and hopefully we don’t have to wait too long for that.

                Pharma do not want us to use anti-viral med, as it will make their vaccine obsolete/unnecessary. When anti-viral is effective, very few people will die of covid. And there will be no fear factor and their hundreds of billion dollars vaccine revenue per year will be down the drain. They will try their very best to make every online platform censor any such news about anti-viral med from you the public. But keep searching, you can find it !!!!

                Let's see if this post will be deleted!

                Must the vaccines and the antiviral meds contradict each other? There is both vaccine and antiviral med to deal with h1N1, our last pandemic. Last I read, the anti-viral meds for covid should arrive about 2024. But meanwhile, we can’t be exposing ourselves to the virus blatantly, hence the vaccines.

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                • MrsKiasuM Offline
                  MrsKiasu
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                  I wonder if there will be any change to the school opening dates 😓 it is not getting that much better right?

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                    ankhlet.06013gmail.06013com
                    last edited by

                    raysusan\" post_id=\"2027778\" time=\"1624369955\" user_id=\"1304:

                    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/uk-ministers-to-be-advised-against-mass-vaccination-for-children-15023280
                    Well, thanks to people who did not observe proper safety measures in dealing with covid, my teen just got vaccinated today I really wasn’t expecting the vaccination to come so soon. So really, thanks to those who do not believe proper mask wearing is for them, do not bother with proper hand washing/sanitizing to prevent fomite transmission, do not bother to think perhaps, just perhaps, their cold symptoms arose because of covid,

                    On one hand, we do not know the long term effects of the mRNA vaccinations, but at least the technology has been around for quite a while. On the other hand, we also do not know the long term effects of a Covid infection on a child. Remember polio, anyone?

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                    • sky minecrafterS Offline
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                      MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2027791\" time=\"1624378051\" user_id=\"43981:

                      (1) I wonder if there will be any change to the school opening dates... (2) it is not getting that much better right?...
                      Hi Mks!
                      (1) I doubt there are changes - my teens just received their schedules (after school trainings for some school event-stuff, etcetera) for Term 3 first week
                      (2) Most schoolmates are already vaccinated (the first Pfizer dose), so less worries bah

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                      • chenlaoshiC Offline
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                        emoh\" post_id=\"2027785\" time=\"1624374301\" user_id=\"10618:

                        https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/15-new-cases-of-locally-transmitted-covid-19-infection_22_Jun2021
                        :roll: Would be \"interesting\" to know if she did self-isolate as advised. Sigh!
                        [quote]Case 64374 is a 26 year-old female Singapore Permanent Resident who works as an analyst at Deutsche Bank, and is a household contact of Case 64373. She developed a fever and sore throat on 15 June, and subsequently a runny nose and cough on 17 June. She sought medical treatment at a General Practitioner (GP) clinic on 17 June but declined to be tested for COVID-19.She was given 5 days’ medical leave and advised to self-isolate. After Case 64373 tested positive for COVID-19 infection on 21 June, Case 64374 visited a GP clinic on the same day, where she underwent both an antigen rapid test (ART) and polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test. She was immediately isolated when her ART result came back positive for COVID-19. Her PCR test result also came positive for COVID-19 infection on 21 June. Her serology test result is pending.[/quote]

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