2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

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sportyger\" post_id=\"2048185\" time=\"1637813950\" user_id=\"28161:

Thanks for the replies. It's really quite difficult to choose this year with hardly any past years records based on AL scoring except for 2020 translated results from t-score. So much uncertainty and even when we so call meet the COP, its still so risky.

Agree. Under AL, very hard to choose Secondary schools, because of the Order imposed, even if u do meet the COP for the school, headache

[MerlionInGermany]

Imp75\" post_id=\"2048044\" time=\"1637799869\" user_id=\"2358:

Apparently, some schools still do. In the past, they prob announced the number of students scoring above a certain tscore and now they continue with this practice, except now they announce the number of students scoring AL8 and better (or AL9 and better as seen below).

I also have photos of a few schools sharing their AL8 and better. And the number is different from below so there must be many more schools who still do it.

FantasyLandDreams\" post_id=\"2047813\" time=\"1637744014\" user_id=\"105816:[quote=FantasyLandDreams post_id=2047813 time=1637744014 user_id=105816]2 different schools I know reported the below and the numbers are consistent with their past year results for number of students who achieved above 250.

School A: 57 students achieved AL9 and above
School B: 50 students achieved AL8 and above

[Veyron]

sportyger\" post_id=\"2048185\" time=\"1637813950\" user_id=\"28161:

Thanks for the replies. It's really quite difficult to choose this year with hardly any past years records based on AL scoring except for 2020 translated results from t-score. So much uncertainty and even when we so call meet the COP, its still so risky.

there will be more clarity after 2021 because 2020 simulation doesn't take into account possible changes in applicants choice of school due to AL. This is why MOE keep emphasising to not put all eggs in 1 basket. If students have ALX, try to put a ALX + 1 school as 2nd choice or 3rd choice.

[SG_KP1]

putien\" post_id=\"2048174\" time=\"1637812136\" user_id=\"29927:

Hope this helps.

Note, AL8 for Third Language was fixed by MOE and it is not floating (as the eligibility was in the past). Hence, I would put forth that we don't know exactly where the Top 10% stops anymore and therefore there a bit more uncertainty for the AL8-AL9 IP/O level schools. In the past, if you got the HMT / Third language eligibility it was extremely unlikely you would miss all of these schools (low 250s t-score COP) as the simple comparison of spaces and students ahead of you made it tough (if not impossible).

Since AL is raw marks only, in any given year depending on the papers, cohort, and how students maximize the AL score the Top 10% could be a) somewhere in AL8 / AL8 extends beyond 10% or b) AL7 or AL9 (as an extreme). I don't think there has been a sea change in raw marks obtained and most likely it is still somewhere in AL8, but just saying we don't know for sure like we did in the past precisely how many people AL8 or better includes. For safety, it's something to keep in mind for the 6th choice.

[putien]

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2048195\" time=\"1637814578\" user_id=\"188234:

putien\" post_id=\"2048174\" time=\"1637812136\" user_id=\"29927:

Hope this helps.

Note, AL8 for Third Language was fixed by MOE and it is not floating (as the eligibility was in the past). Hence, I would put forth that we don't know exactly where the Top 10% stops anymore and therefore there a bit more uncertainty for the AL8-AL9 IP/O level schools. In the past, if you got the HMT / Third language eligibility it was extremely unlikely you would miss all of these schools (low 250s t-score COP) as the simple comparison of spaces and students ahead of you made it tough (if not impossible).

Since AL is raw marks only, in any given year depending on the papers, cohort, and how students maximize the AL score the Top 10% could be a) somewhere in AL8 / AL8 extends beyond 10% or b) AL7 or AL9 (as an extreme). I don't think there has been a sea change in raw marks obtained and most likely it is still somewhere in AL8, but just saying we don't know for sure like we did in the past precisely how many people AL8 or better includes. For safety, it's something to keep in mind for the 6th choice.

True, I have modified to ~ approximate, thanks.

[Timmy21]

Bleep\" post_id=\"2048172\" time=\"1637811478\" user_id=\"195257:

sportyger\" post_id=\"2048168\" time=\"1637811178\" user_id=\"28161:

Daughter got AL6(M), thinking of putting MGS IB as first choice and St Nicks IP as second choice. Do you all think it's OK?

MGS IB cop 5 then she can't make it. Cop 6 then she may end up ballot. Then the f don't get that 2nd choice risky if cop is 7 or 8 all those put first choice with 5/6 points in and full?

Not so likely that MGS IP will see AL5 as COP, therefore should still try as the 1st choice if it's really the child's dream school. Just have to make sure that there's a sensible safety placed in the 6th choice. (in fact, if you put SCGS IP as 3rd-5th choice, tat's probably quite a good safety, and if IP is the goal, put Temasek JC as 6th choice)

[zac's mum]

panimalara\" post_id=\"2048179\" time=\"1637812805\" user_id=\"196002:

My daughter scored AL 19 this year. Please help to suggest secondary schools nearby ang mo kio area.

18
Greendale Secondary School
Compassvale Secondary School
North Vista Secondary School
Beatty Secondary School

19
Seng Kang Secondary School
Christ Church Secondary School
Orchid Park Secondary School
Peirce Secondary School

20
Woodgrove Secondary School
Punggol Secondary School
Admiralty Secondary School
Naval Base Secondary School
Yishun Secondary School
Hougang Secondary School

21
Serangoon Secondary School
Yio Chu Kang Secondary School
Guangyang Secondary School

22
Canberra Secondary School
Bartley Secondary School
Northbrooks Secondary School
Northland Secondary School
Sembawang Secondary School
Serangoon Garden Secondary School
Woodlands Secondary School
Yuying Secondary School
Peicai Secondary School
Whitley Secondary School
Marsiling Secondary School

Find out from the website gothere.sg to see if you have direct bus or train from your home to the above secondary schools. Eliminate those that don't. Eliminate those that take too long to travel to.

You should be left with 6 or more choices. Go to school website with your child to see open-house or any other info like CCAs. All the best!

[putien]

putien\" post_id=\"2048174\" time=\"1637812136\" user_id=\"29927:

Hope this helps.

Updated after feedback.

[00skyblue00]

has anyone attended MGS open house or familiar with classes in MGS?

Are there still SBA classes for o level? How are the girls selected to SBA classes? By subject? What is the SBA COP for non-affiliated?

What is the chance for a score of AL8?

[jkorompis]

Luxedream\" post_id=\"2047985\" time=\"1637771077\" user_id=\"98340:

jkorompis\" post_id=\"2047887\" time=\"1637754265\" user_id=\"193874:

[quote=Judyshim01 post_id=2047868 time=1637750556 user_id=121564]

It seems that the criteria for ESIS has been changed from the previous years. Below os from moe website. I guess that students who got ESIS this time are those admitted to independent school through DSA.
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Awarded to the top one-third of students admitted to independent schools by PSLE score.

Students who meet the ESIS cut-off score and are admitted to independent schools under the Direct School Admission Exercise will also be offered the ESIS.

Actually AL5 may not be the cut off, cos ESIS letter may had been given to those who had been confirmed via DSA to an independent school. My rationale is that only those confirmed thru DSA going to Indep. schools got offered the scholarship first. need someone who's successful in dsa to an independent school and who scored AL6 to confirm if he/she got the scholarship too. other AL6s still need to go through posting to be placed in an indep. school. maybe by then , they will send out the eligibility letters. ESIS is meant for those attending indep schools only

If the child is eligible for ESIS, the child will be informed on PSLE results day, NOT upon posting to independent school. The part about DSA is just saying that regardless whether the child enters the independent school via S1 posting or DSA, the child will be eligible for ESIS as long as the results meet the ESIS cut off.[/quote]I see, so the eligibility for the scholarship is only offered on psle results day. I understand about the DSA part. i was just thinking if it could be due to the fact that it's being offered to DSA students posted to independent schools First cos they r confirmed going into indep schools. As for the cut off, do they merely look at AL5/6 or the raw scores?