2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

[snorlax]

SkYan\" post_id=\"2048802\" time=\"1637935270\" user_id=\"196053:

DD got AL7(D), thinking about following choices :

1) NYGH 7(M)
2) DHS 8(D)
3) Cedar IP 8
4) Cedar O 9
5) Crescent 11
6) PLMGS 11

Can I have some advice on whether choices 1 & 2 are reasonable and stand some chance?

Thanks alot

quite reasonable to me, worst case didn't get 1) NYGH, then almost 100% confirm can get into 2) 3), unless 2) and 3) balloting at AL7D, which is very very unlikely. AL7 to put NYGH at first is like nothing to lose at all.

[AHsDad]

ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2048837\" time=\"1637941150\" user_id=\"3:

Veyron\" post_id=\"2048818\" time=\"1637938291\" user_id=\"30663:

NYGH COP for 2020 was 261 AL7(M), which is why I have indicated its 259+2

Why 259 is not AL6? That is just that because AL7 score range can be as high as 275 if AL1 subject are in the high 90s.

Will that all change for 2021? That is highlight possible because a 257 AL6 is now rank ahead of 259+2

Seriously, Veyron, we all know how you believe AL scores are related to t-scores, but the fact is, t-scores are the past and people are all trying to get used to AL scores. Discussing the relationship between t-scores and AL-scores, well, that's really chim, but also really pointless. Will knowing the relationship bring some special insight to people trying to get their kids into the best secondary schools? So what if a \"257 AL6\" ranks ahead of \"259+2\"? How will knowing that help get my kid into his desired school? I fail to see the point of linking AL scores to t-scores.

Chief, Veyron’s approach has been the same since April, despite the opposing comments. There is no way to change his mind. Hope that parents who really need assistance don’t get further confused.

Maybe next year the “AL-TScore Correlation on Balloting Risk Theorem” will be finally retired after 2021 precedence 😓🙏🏽

[snorlax]

Squirrelly\" post_id=\"2048843\" time=\"1637943492\" user_id=\"196057:

My DD got AL7(M), thinking of
1) NYGH 7(M)
2) DHS 8(D)
3) Cedar 8
4) St Nic 7(M)
5) SCGS 8
6) Nan Chiau O 11

Is there a risk she can’t get IP?
Can I have some advice?
Thanks a lot

AL7 is relatively easy to make decision, several parent already made very similar decisions as you, which is put COP AL6 AL7 school as the first choice, then several AL8 schools as 2nd 3rd choice. nothing to lose, and very safe.

difficult decision belongs to AL6 and AL8, they are the one getting the headache.

[shaunee]

Hi, my girl has AL7 (no HCL) and we live in the west.


She is keen on IP and her first choice is MGS (IP). However, MGS (IP) has COP of 6.

What are the chances of getting in? Thanks in advance.

[00skyblue00]

Thanks Putien for creating this chart.

What do you think?
No. of psle candidates in 2020 was 39,995. (40,256 in 2019)
No. of psle candidates in 2021 was 39,119.
Lower in demand with same amount of supply, the chances of getting a place wld be higher? Provided the reduction is evenly distributed? Hard to know that too.

putien\" post_id=\"2047756\" time=\"1637735954\" user_id=\"29927:

68.4% of the cohort is AL 4-20 (express).
The poll results https://view.sparkchart.com/d/SFOIVIImMvt0sAHFod4uF3QVyt3kz2t1m0kLCHiO1/ currently is skewed, we need more participants.

Please share the poll link https://survey.sparkchart.com/start/ShystWtoXlOgUPbQ635qPtNL4emnCS5vAgpU65Kss/ outside of KSP (e.g. FB) to gain traction, thanks.

[optrex80]

shaunee\" post_id=\"2048852\" time=\"1637946283\" user_id=\"56538:

Hi, my girl has AL7 (no HCL) and we live in the west.

She is keen on IP and her first choice is MGS (IP). However, MGS (IP) has COP of 6.

What are the chances of getting in? Thanks in advance.

Depends on the quantity of AL 4,5,6 students choosing for the same school in MGS IP...Nobody really knows right now.

[SG_KP1]

00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2048858\" time=\"1637961900\" user_id=\"143605:

Thanks Putien for creating this chart.
What do you think?
No. of psle candidates in 2020 was 39,995. (40,256 in 2019)
No. of psle candidates in 2021 was 39,119.
Lower in demand with same amount of supply, the chances of getting a place wld be higher? Provided the reduction is evenly distributed? Hard to know that too.

putien\" post_id=\"2047756\" time=\"1637735954\" user_id=\"29927:

68.4% of the cohort is AL 4-20 (express).
The poll results https://view.sparkchart.com/d/SFOIVIImMvt0sAHFod4uF3QVyt3kz2t1m0kLCHiO1/ currently is skewed, we need more participants.

Please share the poll link https://survey.sparkchart.com/start/ShystWtoXlOgUPbQ635qPtNL4emnCS5vAgpU65Kss/ outside of KSP (e.g. FB) to gain traction, thanks.

One way to look at it is that the absolute number of students qualifying for Express is fairly constant.
2019 = 40,256 x 66.3% = 26,690
2020 = 39,995 x 66.3% = 26,517
2021 = 39,119 x 68.4% = 26,757

If you are looking at IP or the higher COP O level schools (AL8/AL9), what we don't know is whether the Top 10% is still AL8 or if AL8 extends much past 10%. In the past, we got ESIS and HMT/Third Language Eligibility cutoffs and this was a very strong guide as to where most IP schools/low 250s O Level schools would fall. But this year these two were fixed at AL8 so we don't know how many students are AL8 or better.

There is some speculation on a) what will happen in the AL4-6 range, b) how far down AL8 extends (in t-score terms), and c) schools with % of kids scoring AL8 or better (some of this may be fact). Regardless, I don't think anyone knows for sure the true distribution of AL scores this year and how this will impact COPs differently from the indicative levels. I think the best everyone can do is give the first two or so slots a try based on the past and what they want, and then have some safety nets after that. Good luck, hope your child gets allocated what he/she is looking for.

[lassie girl]

ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2048837\" time=\"1637941150\" user_id=\"3:

Veyron\" post_id=\"2048818\" time=\"1637938291\" user_id=\"30663:

NYGH COP for 2020 was 261 AL7(M), which is why I have indicated its 259+2

Why 259 is not AL6? That is just that because AL7 score range can be as high as 275 if AL1 subject are in the high 90s.

Will that all change for 2021? That is highlight possible because a 257 AL6 is now rank ahead of 259+2

Seriously, Veyron, we all know how you believe AL scores are related to t-scores, but the fact is, t-scores are the past and people are all trying to get used to AL scores. Discussing the relationship between t-scores and AL-scores, well, that's really chim, but also really pointless. Will knowing the relationship bring some special insight to people trying to get their kids into the best secondary schools? So what if a \"257 AL6\" ranks ahead of \"259+2\"? How will knowing that help get my kid into his desired school? I fail to see the point of linking AL scores to t-scores.

Thank you Chief, for maintaining the integrity of information shared on this site!

:lovesite:

[soloestoy]

Anyone has views on choosing between Bukit Panjang Govt High and Swiss Cottage?


The two schools are nearby and have the same indicative AL cut-off (11)

Swiss in the past was a 23x COP school but has gained popularity over the years and slowly rose to 24x COP. It seem very popular amongst the kids too as I hear a lot of them aiming for this school.

BP has a good reputation and used to be high 24x COP and seem to have dropped a bit in popularity.

Which one is a better choice?

[zac's mum]

soloestoy\" post_id=\"2048866\" time=\"1637972498\" user_id=\"56690:

Anyone has views on choosing between Bukit Panjang Govt High and Swiss Cottage?

The two schools are nearby and have the same indicative AL cut-off (11)

Swiss in the past was a 23x COP school but has gained popularity over the years and slowly rose to 24x COP. It seem very popular amongst the kids too as I hear a lot of them aiming for this school.

BP has a good reputation and used to be high 24x COP and seem to have dropped a bit in popularity.

Which one is a better choice?

I have asked this qn before in another thread, no answer.

Ask anyone living in the NW area, they will tell you both are very good schools. Couldnt get any more specific reviews.

Just pick the one which uniform your child orefers, or the one with direct bus, i suppose.