2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)
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Veyron\" post_id=\"2049949\" time=\"1638262809\" user_id=\"30663:
Why is RGS so special?
I really think RGS should avoid conducting balloting for AL5 if it is just because of 1 or 2 extra applicants because that will really traumatize 2022 cohort parents who are hoping to get their girls to RGS. Perhaps RGS should make some provisions to increase the cohort size?? (if its possible)
How to traumatise the 2022 cohort parents? Only RGS parents will feel traumatized? All P6 parents are equally worried. We all know AL COP may fluctuate year from year. We will never know if it’s 1 or 2 or 20 applicants who were left out. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2049984\" time=\"1638269612\" user_id=\"17023:
When MOE announced indicative AL COP early this year, parents who wish their child to get admitted to top IP schools may have targeted AL6 to ensure a place in the top IP schools. But if RGS or NYGH get bumped up to AL5, then the 2022 cohort will have to up their expectation to AL5. AL5 is a tall order if you ask me because students will need a min of 3 AL1 subjects + 1 AL2. There are no other permutations such as AL 1 1 1 3 or AL 1 1 2 2
Why is RGS so special?
How to traumatise the 2022 cohort parents? Only RGS parents will feel traumatized? All P6 parents are equally worried. We all know AL COP may fluctuate year from year. We will never know if it’s 1 or 2 or 20 applicants who were left out. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2049792\" time=\"1638196962\" user_id=\"17023:
About the statement, ya.. In fact my friend, who is now a Singapore citizen, told me that it is commonly shared in the expatriate group chats to aim for AL 4 and 5 to secure top 4 schools so that they will not lose out in terms of priority over citizenship. They are already very good at their MT and math, just need to brush up eng and sci to secure the other two AL1. In fact, many do very well!
Thanks SG_KP, Deepblue and Zeal mum.
Yes, something that didn’t exist in the old system. Singaporean first.
That means all those with AL6 who put RGS as 1st choice, Singaporeans will be accepted first before PRs and foreigners.
But there is one way PRs/foreigners can walk straight into top schools, that is to score AL4 and AL5
Trying to calculate balloting risk does not quite work as no one knows the breakdown of Singaporeans/PRs/foreigners and their choices of school.
Try lah, no risk no gain, just make sure to have a safety net at the 5th and 6th choice to ‘catch’ you/your kid just in case. -
TryNotKiasu\" post_id=\"2049988\" time=\"1638270707\" user_id=\"189482:
When you referred them as \"THEY\", it does sound like everyone or every Chinese ex-pat in the chat group have smart children. I am sure that's not the case because I have seen PRC children who struggle with math and other subjects.
About the statement, ya.. In fact my friend, who is now a Singapore citizen, told me that it is commonly shared in the expatriate group chats to aim for AL 4 and 5 to secure top 4 schools so that they will not lose out in terms of priority over citizenship. They are already very good at their MT and math, just need to brush up eng and sci to secure the other two AL1. In fact, many do very well! -
RGS or NYGH is unlikely to get to COP 5. Statistics and maths say it so.
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floppy\" post_id=\"2049992\" time=\"1638271937\" user_id=\"97579:
Just because you said so that doesn't mean its maths or statistic.
RGS or NYGH is unlikely to get to COP 5. Statistics and maths say it so.
If it is statistically or mathematically impossible, then you won't use the word unlikely.
Perhaps you can share how you came to that conclusion. -
Veyron\" post_id=\"2049989\" time=\"1638271186\" user_id=\"30663:
'They' as in the kids of the few hundred parents in that group chat. The super on parents consolidated the AL reported by parents in that group chat. Their kids really did well.
When you referred them as \"THEY\", it does sound like everyone or every Chinese ex-pat in the chat group have smart children. I am sure that's not the case because I have seen PRC children who struggle with math and other subjects. -
TryNotKiasu\" post_id=\"2049995\" time=\"1638273791\" user_id=\"189482:
May I know which chat group? WeChat ? Thanks
'They' as in the kids of the few hundred parents in that group chat. The super on parents consolidated the AL reported by parents in that group chat. Their kids really did well. -
TryNotKiasu\" post_id=\"2049995\" time=\"1638273791\" user_id=\"189482:
Can you share the statistic? what is the percentage of AL4 and AL5 students this year?
'They' as in the kids of the few hundred parents in that group chat. The super on parents consolidated the AL reported by parents in that group chat. Their kids really did well. -
SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2049968\" time=\"1638266630\" user_id=\"188234:
Maybe an itchy hand MP can raise this question to education minister in parliament over how many % of ESIS was awarded for the past 5/10 years, and how many benefit from ESIS.. Then number will come out.. :evil: :evil:
IMO, MOE is unlikely to adjust any cohort sizes due to balloting issues. Doing it for one school would mean you need to potentially do it for every school, which means the allocation process will never end. And if they do it this year for one school do they keep doing it every year for just this one school (or a handful of schools)? I think they are simply going to push the \"run\" button and students will be posted wherever they may.
Also, it is worth nothing that while in the past ESIS was ~Top 3% (or whatever number it is) or ~1,200 students, there is nothing requiring the number of ESIS students in AL4-AL5 to be exactly this number going forward (even if there was a past relationship between 260-261 and AL5). T-score was a forced ranking / statistical distribution of the students' score; this is part of the reason why t-score distributions and t-score COPs were relatively stable. In contrast, AL scores are absolute and the number of students that hit AL4-AL5 could move up and down a fair amount depending on paper difficult and cohort performance. I'm not suggesting the number is going to be 0 or 4,000 in any year, but it could vary relatively more than it did (with regards to those above 260) in the past, especially with a new scoring system that incentives students to get a combination of scores that is AL4-AL5 (vs. a combination of unbalanced scores that was likely to produce 260+).
Given the relatively blunt slicing of the cohort into AL levels, it is possible ESIS (AL5) covers only something like 2.5% of the cohort or it could cover substantially more, like 3.5%. These two figures are entirely made up but the point is MOE does not have the ability to cut it off (ESIS threshold) as precisely as they did in the past when they could move by 1 t-score point at a time to find the % they were looking for. Obviously, 2.5% or 3.5% would result in pretty different outcomes for a handful of schools (or it could be pretty close to 3% again).
Which way will it go? I think there are actually a number of factors that are going in opposite directions here, and while it's likely we all have some guesses the only certainty is that we'll find out in late-December. Good luck to everyone that is waiting for results!
Gotta talk to MP on next MPS..
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