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    2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

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    • SG_KP1S Offline
      SG_KP1
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      soloestoy\" post_id=\"2051941\" time=\"1639579788\" user_id=\"56690:

      I thought only choice order is a new tie breaker? But it’s true that citizenship tie breaker is much more likely to be activated under AL system.

      For affiliated schools, I guess even the schools don’t know how their pool of eligible students will increase/decrease under the AL AMR vs the old T-score AMR.
      All things the same, I believe it is likely somewhat more students qualified under AL AMR than the old affiliated t-score COP. If so, this was not picked up in the simulation. I.e. if t-score COP was 200 and you got 199, there was no point to try the affiliated school. But if your 199 is still AL20, now you could have gone (in the simulation) but your 2020 PSLE S1 Option Form would not have included the affiliated school as first choice (since under t-score you didn't qualify). On the margin, this probably means fewer seats for the non-affiliated although exactly how many is :? :? :?

      If more affiliated kids \"stay home\" as a play safe strategy, that will amplify the impact further. Edit: I have not considered more affiliated kids staying home = slightly less pressure on other schools.

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        lassie girl\" post_id=\"2051929\" time=\"1639573778\" user_id=\"35383:[quote=\"lassie girl\" post_id=2051929 time=1639573778 user_id=35383]
        Not to forget the ones with HCL advantage. Would they prioritize the SAP schools over the non SAP ones? Interesting…[/quote]
        Arguably, the kids with high HCL grade relative to the indicative COP can be more aggressive and try their luck at the non-SAP schools first if they wish. I.e. take an AL7 non-SAP school and an AL7(M) SAP school, a kid with AL7(D) can try the non-SAP first and even though the SAP school is second choice the \"D\" will keep him/her ahead if unlucky and ballot out at non-SAP school. Of course there is some risk that there is a ballot at AL7(D) and choice order matters but this is starting to slice things really thin (citizenship will still be the first filter at AL7(D)).

        While you cannot \"jump over\" anyone with HCL anymore (no +3, +2, +1), given how many students are in each AL band and the flexibility it provides in the S1 option choices, I would say HCL has become more valuable if you like CL and can tolerate a SAP secondary school.
        lassie girl\" post_id=\"2051929\" time=\"1639573778\" user_id=\"35383:[quote=\"lassie girl\" post_id=2051929 time=1639573778 user_id=35383]And the play safe group who put eg 1st choice AL0 (their AL score), 2nd choice AL0+1, 3rd choice AL+2 etc… the scary thing is that if enough people rank their schools the same way, the final AL cut off might really throw out some interesting surprises…[/quote]
        I have wondered whether many people will take enough risk on their say 2nd - 4th (or maybe 5th) choices. If enough people adopt the +1 strategy, some of the schools may actually not fill up as fast as they did in the simulation. I think a lot will depend on whether the relative demand (vs. vacancy) at each ALX school is the same. If everyone at ALX puts just one ALX school in their choices and it is predominately the same school we could get some odd results.

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        • lassie girlL Offline
          lassie girl
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          SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2051944\" time=\"1639584013\" user_id=\"188234:

          Arguably, the kids with high HCL grade relative to the indicative COP can be more aggressive and try their luck at the non-SAP schools first if they wish. I.e. take an AL7 non-SAP school and an AL7(M) SAP school, a kid with AL7(D) can try the non-SAP first and even though the SAP school is second choice the \"D\" will keep him/her ahead if unlucky and ballot out at non-SAP school. Of course there is some risk that there is a ballot at AL7(D) and choice order matters but this is starting to slice things really thin (citizenship will still be the first filter at AL7(D)).

          While you cannot \"jump over\" anyone with HCL anymore (no +3, +2, +1), given how many students are in each AL band and the flexibility it provides in the S1 option choices, I would say HCL has become more valuable if you like CL and can tolerate a SAP secondary school.
          Yes hcl will be very valuable in this new system. Having a D for hcl will make one 3 steps ahead of the same AL pack (when trying for SAP schools). Singaporeans can take that chance to try non SAP schools first before using this as an advantage at SAP schools - which again means they need to be strategic about their choice ranking instead of being able to put as they wish under the old system. This also could be one way for non Singaporeans to avoid balloting. For example, if one is a AL7D, one may not want to take chance to choose an AL7 non SAP because of the chance to ballot with citizenship rules, and to be ahead of the pack as well with a D which may not be so commonplace for our English speaking Singaporeans… And like I said what if enough people think the same way? and would the SAP cohort mix then change? Interesting….

          SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2051944\" time=\"1639584013\" user_id=\"188234:

          I have wondered whether many people will take enough risk on their say 2nd - 4th (or maybe 5th) choices. If enough people adopt the +1 strategy, some of the schools may actually not fill up as fast as they did in the simulation. I think a lot will depend on whether the relative demand (vs. vacancy) at each ALX school is the same. If everyone at ALX puts just one ALX school in their choices and it is predominately the same school we could get some odd results.
          Exactly. Of course with no idea of the cohort’s performance we do not know how the AL scores will spread out or their relative chance in this posting. But what if enough people think the same way, the IP schools’ AL cut off will not be so nicely spread out like under the old system. Very interesting… we shall see how it pans out

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          • Liew Nga WingL Offline
            Liew Nga Wing
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            In the eve of the announcement of PSLE results, I hope to recommend a book for all parents here,


            "The Tyranny of Merit - What’s become of the common good?" - by Michael J. Sandal in 2020.

            This book is now available in our National Library, Amazon.sg, Kinokuniya and Kobo,etc.

            Hope you can enjoy the book.

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              soloestoy
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              Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2052209\" time=\"1639890089\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2052209 time=1639890089 user_id=195250]
              In the eve of the announcement of PSLE results, I hope to recommend a book for all parents here,

              \"The Tyranny of Merit - What's become of the common good?\" - by Michael J. Sandal in 2020.

              This book is now available in our National Library, Amazon.sg, Kinokuniya and Kobo,etc.

              Hope you can enjoy the book.[/quote]
              Good recommendation. Wonder our own elites read this book.

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              • ChiefKiasuC Offline
                ChiefKiasu
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                We have reopened this thread because MOE is supposed to be releasing the results of the P6 to S1 selection on 22 December (tomorrow), so that it can reach its natural conclusion.


                Godspeed to all P6 kids out there, and may you all get into the school that will mold you into a strong and resilient young citizen for our country.

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                • zac's mumZ Offline
                  zac's mum
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                  All the best for the posting results!!!


                  Wow tmr the SMS networks are gonna be busy…the 12 year olds’ parents waiting for posting SMS, while the 11 year olds’ parents waiting for the invitation SMS for vaccination lol!

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                  • Zeal mummyZ Offline
                    Zeal mummy
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                    Yes, all the best for the posting results! We’re all curious to know what’s the AL impact on the posting results.


                    Heard that most of the 11 year olds’ parents are keen to have the half dose vaccination… hope the sms network is not too jammed tmr.

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                    • D Offline
                      desnha
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                      Results are out! All the best to everyone

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                        apple8986
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                        Any idea what is cutoff point for catholic high?

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