2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

[Veyron]

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2053263\" time=\"1640394752\" user_id=\"188234:

If everyone does this, the odds at NYGH and HCI won't be any worse than NJC. In fact, they may be better.

Also, if I am unlucky and get ballot out I can get any AL8 IP school I want. Not everyone is so concerned about going to the so called \"best\" or highest COP school available.

Lastly, SNGS IP is supposedly AL7(P) so AL7(M) ballot out/missed COP at NYGH didn't miss all of them this year.

I do agree that have #1 - #3 at AL7 isn't going to increase your chances a lot at getting an AL7 school. But since you have six choice you aren't harmed much by this strategy unless you only goal is to secured an AL7 school with your AL7 score.

This year S1 posting has confirmed that under AL the popularity order of IP schools did not change. With RGS and RI being at the top, followed closely by NYGH, HCI, ACSI SNG etc

Balloting risk for IP schools is not just determined by the pool of students balloting (A), but more importantly how many places are available for balloting (B).

For (A), its impossible to tell as no one can predict how other parents or students will rank their school choice,
But for (B), it's possible to gauge by using 2020 T-score COP as reference.

[SG_KP1]

Veyron\" post_id=\"2053266\" time=\"1640395978\" user_id=\"30663:

This year S1 posting has confirmed that under AL the popularity order of IP schools did not change. With RGS and RI being at the top, followed closely by NYGH, HCI, ACSI SNG etc

Balloting risk for IP schools is not just determined by the pool of students balloting (A), but more importantly how many places are available for balloting (B).

For (A), its impossible to tell as no one can predict how other parents or students will rank their school choice,
But for (B), it's possible to gauge by using 2020 T-score COP as reference.

All of that is true but if I don't want to go to ACS(I) or NJC, why should I put them there? That was the specific advice that I said I don't always agree with (pick school with highest chance as first choice).

Still, regardless of what we know about (B), if enough people move from School A (higher historical t-score COP) to School B (lower historical t-score COP) I am quite sure the odds will get closer together, not further apart. Any if everyone follows your advice, the one brave student that selects School A will be a lock because they have no competition while School B will still need to ballot.

Of course, this is an extreme example and unlikely to happen, but unless MOE publishes the actual ballot data (which they never will) if I have a strong preference I will still try for it. Preference could be academic offerings, curriculum track (A Level, IB), secular or religious school, or travel distance. I am 100% sure I won't put a school I don't want to go to as first choice just because it may have more spots available, especially when there are schools I like at the ALX+1 COP available.

[mystique_j]

I just heard of someone who scored AL10 but didn’t get into a school with COP of AL11. Put as first choice. Another classmate with AL11 got in the same school. Non SAP school.

Is this even possible?

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mystique_j\" post_id=\"2053277\" time=\"1640401141\" user_id=\"39431:

I just heard of someone who scored AL10 but didn’t get into a school with COP of AL11. Put as first choice. Another classmate with AL11 got in the same school. Non SAP school.
Is this even possible?

That is not possible as ALL AL10 students will get posted ahead of AL11 regardless of the order of choice.

[soloestoy]

COP compiled by Zaobao a bit different from KSP's, wonder which one is accurate?

E.g. RVHS is 9D or 9M?

https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/singapore/story20211223-1225684

[mystique_j]

Veyron\" post_id=\"2053279\" time=\"1640401407\" user_id=\"30663:

That is not possible as ALL AL10 students will get posted ahead of AL11 regardless of the order of choice.

Yup thought so too but the parents didn’t appeal.. not sure if it’s some glitch or not or some info missing in translation. But this seems odd.

[Veyron]

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2053269\" time=\"1640398881\" user_id=\"188234:

All of that is true but if I don't want to go to ACS(I) or NJC, why should I put them there? That was the specific advice that I said I don't always agree with (pick school with highest chance as first choice).

Still, regardless of what we know about (B), if enough people move from School A (higher historical t-score COP) to School B (lower historical t-score COP) I am quite sure the odds will get closer together, not further apart. Any if everyone follows your advice, the one brave student that selects School A will be a lock because they have no competition while School B will still need to ballot.

Of course, this is an extreme example and unlikely to happen, but unless MOE publishes the actual ballot data (which they never will) if I have a strong preference I will still try for it. Preference could be academic offerings, curriculum track (A Level, IB), secular or religious school, or travel distance. I am 100% sure I won't put a school I don't want to go to as first choice just because it may have more spots available, especially when there are schools I like at the ALX+1 COP available.

ACS(I) and NJC are there simply because they are AL7 COP schools to fit into the illustration of having the same AL COP schools placed in #1 #2 #3.

If the student's decision is to secure one of the 3 available AL7 IP schools, it will make sense to place one with the highest chance as #1 because #2 and #3 will most definitely not qualify for balloting.

Below is a good example. By placing ACS(I) as #1 choice, the odds may have been better because HCI has historically commanded equal or higher t-score COP than ACS(I). If #1 was NJC (assuming NJC being considered), I am sure that the odds will even be higher. Maybe even no balloting for those who place NJC as #1.

https://kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2052591#p2052591

[blur_mum]

RVHS 9D posted in. Singapore citizen.

[SG_KP1]

Veyron\" post_id=\"2053287\" time=\"1640403202\" user_id=\"30663:

ACS(I) and NJC are there simply because they are AL7 COP schools to fit into the illustration of having the same AL COP schools placed in #1 #2 #3.

If the student's decision is to secure one of the 3 available AL7 IP schools, it will make sense to place one with the highest chance as #1 because #2 and #3 will most definitely not qualify for balloting.

Below is a good example. By placing ACS(I) as #1 choice, the odds may have been better because HCI has historically commanded equal or higher t-score COP than ACS(I). If #1 was NJC (assuming NJC being considered), I am sure that the odds will even be higher. Maybe even no balloting for those who place NJC as #1.

https://kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2052591#p2052591

Key change in bold from the prior advice. Not everyone wants to do that, which is why simply putting \"highest chance\" as first choice doesn't always make sense for everyone (my original comment to the advice).

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mystique_j\" post_id=\"2053286\" time=\"1640403081\" user_id=\"39431:

Yup thought so too but the parents didn’t appeal.. not sure if it’s some glitch or not or some info missing in translation. But this seems odd.

Its impossible for such glitches or for parents not to appeal. Maybe the parents doesn't want others to know that the child result is AL12?