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    • starlight1968sgS
      starlight1968sg
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      Which Min doies HDB report to? Write to this Min via email or his/her FB? Write to ST Forum?

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        lee_yl\" post_id=\"2064030\" time=\"1649569975\" user_id=\"17023:

        Update:

        HDB has replied my earlier email which asked about the potential loophole of using termination of approval to rent out whole unit to evict tenants and the landlord’s contravention of HDB’s rules and regulations by renting to foreigners not of Malaysian origin for more than 2 years. To my utter surprise, HDB’s reply was totally off, it just stated that
        1).HDB was not responsible for any premature termination of a tenancy agreement. 2). Landlord had applied and obtained approval first before renting out the whole unit, so LL has not broken any terms and conditions. The replies were totally off my questions. In the first place, renting out a HDB unit for 3yrs to foreigners not of Malaysian origin is already a contravention.

        The killer statement was in the last sentence when HDB stated that it would not be responding to any of my subsequent emails on the matter.

        I scratched my head and wondered whether my English was poor that’s why HDB misunderstood my queries. I re-read my emails and I had been very clear about my concerns. Which then makes me feel sad that HDB had deliberately chosen to ignore real issues and decided to be defensive. What’s worse, even though a clear contravention of HDB’s own rules and regulations was reported, HDB had chosen not to exercise its power as a regulator to investigate the matter.

        For the next step, I am likely to write to Minister(National Development) to see what else could be done. Open for any suggestions that could help. I already running out of ideas.
        Thank you for pursuing this matter. I believe for the good of the society and HDB, the Ministry should take over this investigation.

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        • sembgalS
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          lee_yl\" post_id=\"2060415\" time=\"1646268802\" user_id=\"17023:

          Loophole in HDB Rental policy?

          Recently I came across an interesting case. This unscrupulous landlord confiscated tenant’s 3 month deposits (for a 3 year lease). The landlord went to HDB to terminate the approval to rent out the full unit, citing that she wanted to move back to the flat for her own stay, and then forcefully evicted the tenants on pretext of reclaiming the unit with the help of Police resources and a locksmith in tow. The landlord then withheld the deposit on various grounds.

          One week later, the very same unit was advertised on Property Guru asking for 40% more in rental.

          The tenant did write in to HDB to highlight landlord’s intention to cheat but HDB’s reply was factual but not helpful, basically HDB doesn’t care about tenancy dispute, tenant needs to find lawyer. Unfortunately, the tenant is a foreign healthcare worker and has no money to sue landlord in court.

          But to me, this is not just a tenancy dispute but a loophole in HDB’s rules, if a landlord can use it over and over again to prematurely terminate a tenancy agreement and cheat tenant’s of the deposit using different reasons. Plus, the landlord can then turn around to rent out the entire unit with HDB seemingly unaware that the approval to terminate was only a week ago and now the unit is back on the rental market.

          What was shocking, was that the tenancy agreement was signed for 3 years to a foreigner not of Malaysian origin which already breached the rental guidelines. Informed HDB, also no reply. If a regulator doesn’t enforce, it’s just a paper tiger.
          Hi lee_ly

          Thanks for sharing this interesting loophole.
          If one suspects that a landlord neighbour rented out the whole flat to a foreigner and not a Malaysian origin, where can one report this breach in rental guidelines? As there is no regulator, it is difficult to report to police or HDB.

          What about those landlord that rent out whole house to Malaysian for long term and the Malaysian rent out one of the rooms to other foreigner without the landlord’s knowledge. How would HDB know and how would neighbour know who to report such unscrupulous tenant if neighbour has never seen the landlord before ?

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          • lee_ylL
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            sembgal\" post_id=\"2066566\" time=\"1651878905\" user_id=\"5559:

            Hi lee_ly

            Thanks for sharing this interesting loophole.
            If one suspects that a landlord neighbour rented out the whole flat to a foreigner and not a Malaysian origin, where can one report this breach in rental guidelines? As there is no regulator, it is difficult to report to police or HDB.

            What about those landlord that rent out whole house to Malaysian for long term and the Malaysian rent out one of the rooms to other foreigner without the landlord’s knowledge. How would HDB know and how would neighbour know who to report such unscrupulous tenant if neighbour has never seen the landlord before ?
            Can rent whole HDB flat to foreigners of non-Malaysian origin (e.g. PRCs on EP) but only up to a maximum of 2 years.

            Yes, in theory, HDB is the regulator. For the case I shared, I reported to HDB that a LL signed a 3-year contract to tenants of non-Malaysian origin but HDB didn’t say will investigate.

            If the Malaysian rents the whole house and rent out a room to other foreigners without LL’s knowledge, it is already an offence. If you have any doubt and cannot get hold of the landlord, easiest is to report directly to HDB.

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            • phtthpP
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              If the Malaysian rents the whole house and rent out a room to other foreigners without LL’s knowledge, it is already an offence. If you have any doubt and cannot get hold of the landlord, easiest is to report directly to HDB.
              How do u find out that the tenants who rented the whole house, in turn rent out one room to other foreigner ? This is insight, personal info, unless you really know your tenant neighbours very well

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              • lee_ylL
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                phtthp\" post_id=\"2066616\" time=\"1651896061\" user_id=\"35251:

                How do u find out that the tenants who rented the whole house, in turn rent out one room to other foreigner ? This is insight, personal info, unless you really know your tenant neighbours very well
                True. As a neighbor, I probably won’t know whether the main tenant has sublet a bedroom to a foreigner. One possible tell tale sign is, the unit keeps having new faces coming to and fro.

                If you suspect/worry that your main tenant may be subletting a bedroom to others, then what you can do as a LL is to conduct surprise checks. But I am not sure how many LLs conduct regular surprise checks on the tenants. Usually nobody complains / makes noise, nobody cares.

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                • starlight1968sgS
                  starlight1968sg
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                  https://www.straitstimes.com/business/property/absd-of-35-to-be-levied-on-transfers-of-residential-property-to-living-trust


                  35%!

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                  • Zeal mummyZ
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                    starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2066820\" time=\"1652047295\" user_id=\"14025:

                    https://www.straitstimes.com/business/property/absd-of-35-to-be-levied-on-transfers-of-residential-property-to-living-trust

                    35%!
                    Wow I saw this too. Gap closed.

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                    • tinker_bellT
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                      starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2066820\" time=\"1652047295\" user_id=\"14025:

                      https://www.straitstimes.com/business/property/absd-of-35-to-be-levied-on-transfers-of-residential-property-to-living-trust

                      35%!
                      Loophole finally closed. More revenue for the government.

                      https://www.mof.gov.sg/news-publications/parliamentary-replies/annual-breakdown-amounts-of-additional-buyer-s-stamp-duty-collected-from-singaporeans-buying-second-third-and-subsequent-residential-properties-respectively-over-last-five-years

                      https://www.mof.gov.sg/images/default-source/default-album/news-publications/parliamentary-replies/pq1577_table1.jpeg?sfvrsn=6b4b35ac_2\">

                      https://www.mof.gov.sg/images/default-source/default-album/news-publications/parliamentary-replies/pq1577_table2.jpeg?sfvrsn=9c327bcb_2\">

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                      • doodbugD
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                        I am just waiting for inheritance tax to be re-introduced in Singapore some time in future…

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