* Nanyang JC (NYJC)

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NotEducatedMan\" post_id=\"2077657\" time=\"1659921812\" user_id=\"98110:

Unlike lower ranking ACJC which has a much higher successful rate, it seems NYJC just could not produced enough high CEP students to compete for top scholarships.

A fair comparison since both are non-IPJC.

What is CEP?

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bbbay\" post_id=\"2077658\" time=\"1659922254\" user_id=\"175278:

What is CEP?

For our public service, CEP stands for Current Estimated Potential.
https://www.psd.gov.sg/press-room/parliamentary-replies/written-reply-to-parliamentary-question-on-whether-the-ministry-intends-to-abolish-the-use-of-current-estimated-potential-cep-within-the-civil-service
https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/changes-civil-services-currently-estimated-potential-system-kick-progressively-2021-chan

As for the selection of defence scholars, those chosen one are deemed to have high CEP.

eg. In 2020, total 95 out of close to 2000 applicants were selected.
https://www.mindef.gov.sg/web/portal/mindef/news-and-events/latest-releases/article-detail/2020/July/29jul20_nr2

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phtthp\" post_id=\"2077510\" time=\"1659767935\" user_id=\"35251:

Anyway, to all the Nanyang JC students here,

don't be so up tight about which is the 3rd or 4th or 5th JC, in Singapore. Why ?
Because
every few years, the situation may change, so on & so forth ....

Also, once u step into the working world, nobody is going to ask you, \"so, which JC, you come from ? \" Perhaps, during your very 1st job interview, interviewers may ask, especially if u are a fresh graduate, from university. But subsequently next time, each time whenever u change job, change company 2x, 3x, 4x, 5x or change career, people won't ask u anymore.

They will only ask u one key question, \"From your current or from your previously resigned job, what relevant skill set, can u contribute to our organization ? \"

Or

\" Why should we hire u, out of so many job applicants, who have applied to our company ? We are in no lack of applicants ... \"

As u look back, all these not important anymore. Which (Secondary school or JC) u ever attended before, they merely become dim memories, in your past journey.

The reality is......which JCs or schools you graduated from may make a difference.

I am telling you this from my personal experience.

I once work in the civil service and the HR let slipped that priority consideration will be given to graduates from top JC.

This is despite the govt saying qualifications are not the only consideration.

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Parent\" post_id=\"2077988\" time=\"1660197316\" user_id=\"2348:

The reality is......

which JCs or schools you graduated from may make a difference.

I am telling you this from my personal experience.

I once work in the civil service and the HR let slipped that priority consideration will be given to graduates from top JC.

This is despite the govt saying qualifications are not the only consideration.

So, if you work in the
\" government \" sector,
(Secondary school + Junior College) are still important, whichever rank you are at, or whichever year you are in,

Because in the \"government\" sector, paper qualifications \"talk\" loudly .

But,
if you work in the \" private \" sector, only for the very first maiden job immediately right after your University graduation,
ie. When you are a fresh graduate,
then (Secondary school + JC) are important.

But subsequently,
after you have changed job to (2nd or 3rd or 4th job, etc), Secondary school / JC not important anymore because direct relevant working experience counts more, takes precedence.

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phtthp\" post_id=\"2077989\" time=\"1660198815\" user_id=\"35251:

So, if you work in the
\" government \" sector,
(Secondary school + Junior College) are still important, whichever rank you are at, or whichever year you are in,

Because in the \"government\" sector, paper qualifications \"talk\" loudly .

But,
if you work in the \" private \" sector, only for the very first maiden job immediately right after your University graduation,
ie. When you are a fresh graduate,
then (Secondary school + JC) are important.

But subsequently,
after you have changed job to (2nd or 3rd or 4th job, etc), Secondary school / JC not important anymore because direct relevant working experience counts more, takes precedence.

But the maiden job is extremely important to set you right on your career path ….,

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Imp75\" post_id=\"2078010\" time=\"1660211750\" user_id=\"2358:

But the maiden job is extremely important to set you right on your career path ….,

Even if some may think 🤔 maiden job is important, but if company is recruiting graduates, and it is applicant’s maiden job, during interview, company will focus on which U applicant is from or U results, and not which JC the applicant went to, correct ?

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bbbay\" post_id=\"2078037\" time=\"1660259751\" user_id=\"175278:

Even if some may think 🤔 maiden job is important, but if company is recruiting graduates, and it is applicant’s maiden job, during interview, company will focus on which U applicant is from or U results, and not which JC the applicant went to, correct ?

There’s some correlation. Who can go to Ivy League or top tier universities? How’s the screening criteria at the university admission process.

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Imp75\" post_id=\"2078040\" time=\"1660263670\" user_id=\"2358:

Who can go to Ivy League or top tier universities? How’s the screening criteria at the university admission process.

Students with good A level results + good cca/social service credentials. 👏

But top JCs != good A level results + good cca/social service credentials for sure

And not top JCs != not good A level results + not good cca/social service credentials for sure

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bbbay\" post_id=\"2078063\" time=\"1660274648\" user_id=\"175278:

Students with good A level results + good cca/social service credentials. 👏

But top JCs != good A level results + good cca/social service credentials for sure

And not top JCs != not good A level results + not good cca/social service credentials for sure

I am sorry If my post is misleading… I don’t mean it that way or to offend anyone.

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phtthp\" post_id=\"2077989\" time=\"1660198815\" user_id=\"35251:

So, if you work in the
\" government \" sector,
(Secondary school + Junior College) are still important, whichever rank you are at, or whichever year you are in,

Because in the \"government\" sector, paper qualifications \"talk\" loudly .

But,
if you work in the \" private \" sector, only for the very first maiden job immediately right after your University graduation,
ie. When you are a fresh graduate,
then (Secondary school + JC) are important.

But subsequently,
after you have changed job to (2nd or 3rd or 4th job, etc), Secondary school / JC not important anymore because direct relevant working experience counts more, takes precedence.

I disagree. I had a boss (private company) who told us that he'll only hire graduates from certain universities & he'll look at the candidates' secondary schools & JCs. Not sure abt primary schools though