* Nanyang JC (NYJC)
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iRabbit\" post_id=\"2098497\" time=\"1676965574\" user_id=\"51587:
Frankly,
MOE stopped the ranking of JC in 2004 and sec sch in 2012, due in part to unhealthy competitions between sch. A cursory glance at some of the threads here has given proof how competitive (or combative) some parents are in justifying the rankings of their kids' sch. Some of the posts imo are plain churlish.
I too support the idea that sch should stop the practice of publishing details of their A-Level performance, or at least gloss over it the way that NYJC does.
https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/infopedia/articles/SIP_512_2005-01-03.html
Sentiments
The school ranking exercise, which was meant to help parents and students make informed school choices, had raised concerns since the beginning that it would demoralise principals, teachers and students of low-ranking schools, and create unhealthy competition among schools. The media reported about pressure on schools from parents to improve examination results during the 1990s. Critics also felt that the overemphasis on academic performance was at the expense of other aspects of a well-rounded education, such as sports, the arts and character development.
Repeated calls had been made to MOE to discontinue the rankings by various parties, including principals, parents, members of parliament as well as the Remaking Singapore Committee formed in 2003.
The moves to scrap rankings of JCs in 2004 and subsequently secondary schools in 2012 were cheered by many educators. Some parents, on the other hand, were less positive: Without the availability of comparisons, the task of choosing schools for their children was made more difficult.
even if RI / Hwa Chong / National JC / Temasek JC / Dunman High, etc. don't advertise their A-level results on their own JC website or instalgram, these two group inside Nanyang JC will still continue to \"fight / argue\", like in past years. Is like that wan lah !
And more importantly is -
Precisely,
Because
Nanyang Junior College has NEVER openly published her A-level results today in 2023,
NOR
In any past year ever before.
Therefore,
NOBODY will ever know which are the Top 5 JCs. At the very most, people only know who are the Top 2 JCs, namely (RI + Hwa Chong), that's all.
How to rank ?
Cannot rank, right ?
So, that's good, isn't it ?
Isn't that what u wanted all along - NO ranking,
because
how to rank, without official data?
Everybody is happy now.
Because
NO ranking, mah ! -
Very ironic people who are arguing on rumors/hearsays on which JCs are top in this forum aren’t even students who sitting for A levels and prepping to enter universities. Go over to Reddit do you see petty JC students arguing which JCs should be ranked 1st/2nd/3rd like here? Don’t tell me parents who live up to nearly half a century are arguing on this subject? Gosh!? Back during my JC days, we students don’t spend time discussing if NJC or VJC is ranked 3rd in terms of A level results despite having the same JAE COP, because it’s plain silly! Just do your best for A level; why care if your school statistics are great if you can’t score an A and contribute to the school distinction statistics?
So what if NYJC isn’t 3rd or is placed 1st/2nd in terms of A level scores? Regardless of its current A level results, even it’s not placed 3rd but 4th/5th, the indisputable fact is most of its graduated students have done well enough to qualify for most local university courses; coming next year, excellent students will still choose to enrol into NYJC, regardless of whatever ranking arguments you people are having here, because of its current reputation of having a caring education environment. People should be more concerned which JCs are providing an excellent, supportive learning environment for their children. -
thirtyplusperson\" post_id=\"2098520\" time=\"1676971567\" user_id=\"200880:
When u read Reddit forum,
Very ironic people who are arguing on rumors/hearsays on which JCs are top in this forum aren't even students who sitting for A levels and prepping to enter universities. Go over to Reddit do you see petty JC students arguing which JCs should be ranked 1st/2nd/3rd like here? Don't tell me parents who live up to nearly half a century are arguing on this subject? Gosh!? Back during my JC days, we students don't spend time discussing if NJC or VJC is ranked 3rd in terms of A level results despite having the same JAE COP, because it's plain silly! Just do your best for A level; why care if your school statistics are great if you can't score an A and contribute to the school distinction statistics?
So what if NYJC isn't 3rd or is placed 1st/2nd in terms of A level scores? Regardless of its current A level results, even it's not placed 3rd but 4th/5th, the indisputable fact is most of its graduated students have done well enough to qualify for most local university courses; coming next year, excellent students will still choose to enrol into NYJC, regardless of whatever ranking arguments you people are having here, because of its current reputation of having a caring education environment. People should be more concerned which JCs are providing an excellent, supportive learning environment for their children.
many comments come from the students themselves, directly. Is better to read students comments over there, although sometimes, must discern whether info provided there is true or false.
Also, as IRabbit has rightfully pointed out, is far more important that your own A level daughter or son has done well, in whichever JC placed in.
Example
say, there have been cases where some students did not do well in RI (A-level), while majority of their fellow classmates / school mates scored 85 RP & above. These people will feel down, esp. When their fellow school mates inside RI, are doing so well, on the actual results' released Annoucement day. Then, what's the point of studying inside RI, yet one's own kid don't do well at the final exit point, right or not ? -
phtthp\" post_id=\"2098522\" time=\"1676972425\" user_id=\"35251:
Precisely, I think you get this important point.
Also, as IRabbit has rightfully pointed out, is far more important that your own A level daughter or son has done well, in whichever JC placed in. -
bbbay\" post_id=\"2098455\" time=\"1676938744\" user_id=\"175278:
Nah I disagree. Maybe when choosing primary and secondary school we will look at school philosophy plus culture whatever but at JC level the aim of students is to pick a jc that can help them get a decent result to qualify for courses in university.
NYJC and Chung Cheng High main/Yishun, are oversee by the same school committee. And their philosophy appear to be 中庸之道 (the mean doctrine). Can be loosely translated as: striking a balance in all things we do. Anyone that can relate to this, can consider joining NYJC
When considering nyjc or any jc, students should look at
1. whether they meet the cop
2. reasonable travel distance to school
Other things to look at are subject combination and subject distinction rate, which unfortunately nyjc does not reveal at all, let alone mean and median :?:
What we know about nyjc is
cop 5/6 for science/art
school at serangoon ave 3
nearest mrt lorong chuan
and a latest news report by Straits Times, a top school :rahrah: .
Imagine a newspaper who can't be honest about daily circulation figures reporting nyjc is a top school :rotflmao: -
Seriously, why the need to mock the school? Are you real parents or some kids from other JC? For parents who have children in NYJC, we already know the performance of 21xx. It is not a secret but we do not see the need to share publicly. I can only say, the students are in good hands. All the best to our 22xx and hope that they perform just as well as their seniors so that the juniors can have a day off on the last day of term 1.
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usaik881\" post_id=\"2098549\" time=\"1676989496\" user_id=\"199461:
There are so many other information to ask like how’s the school culture, what are their teachers like, start times, what subject combi that can be taken etc.
A school is a public institution. This means it has a basic duty to the public, not just to those who are associated with it. As a public institution, future potential students, their parents, have a rightful claim to information from it; even for the curious by-stander.
Re information, we say it is a mistake for NO information to be the case, as some are clamoring. NO information makes everyone stupider.
Information, including frivolous information and even harmful misinformation, adds value. The noisier, the better. Because nobody kicks at a dead dog, when a place is noisy, it means something is cooking at that place. For those with a stake in it, it is only of the essence to give it a careful lookover.
We see names raised in the discussion, kaypoh, gossip. This is rather unfortunate, since these are actually the naturally existing sieving mechanisms the information world needs for correct decision making. Kaypohs, gossips, provide the noise, very necessary noise, for sieving out frivolous information and/or harmful information. (Re kaypohs, gossips, in a pleasanter and better mannered world, the correct word to use is by-stander.)
Information makes everyone smarter.
Let us cite an example: buying online. When we buy online, especially of an unfamiliar product or from an unfamiliar vendor, we always look at their reviews first. We normally won't risk buying when there are no reviews.
Even with a product and/or a vendor we are familiar with, such as a car, we still take a look at their reviews, although these reviews carry less weight in our buying decision.
When we look at these reviews, we always look at the negative comments first. Always. Because the negative comments alert us to unseen things which the eye misses. Granted some reviews can be frivolous. But the higher the stake, the more time we will spend sieving through them before we decide whether to buy or not to buy.
But to specifically ask for their results and results only and then mention other top JCs revealing their results and kicking up a ruckus with all kinds of accusations about the school for not revealing their results, if this is not trying to compare which JC is better, then what is it?
There are so many other information about the school on their website. So why is there no transparency? Or only because they did not reveal their results for people to compare that they are being accused of hiding information and not being transparent? -
Kimkar\" post_id=\"2098541\" time=\"1676985458\" user_id=\"36967:
Kimkar,
I agree.
As a parent with my DD in NYJC J2, I can attest that the students are informed of the mean RP score on the 2022 A Level results. They are also informed of their CT or mid year or year-end score vs the rest of the classes and overall cohort. As long as they are happy with the current system, as long as they feel challenged by the super hard papers set by the school and yet they are willing to push themselvrs to work even harder, I don't see why parents with their DS in other JCs fighting over the JC ranking. I am quite disturbed as I feel that the school's conviction to keep the A results in check has created so much hoo-ha every year, after the release of the A level results.
I was once perplexed why my neighbour's DD has wanted badly to get into NYJC but did not meet the COP. But seeing is believing if you have a child there, and you can understand what the school has done for the students in terms of welfare. This is truly what has been reported in the ST and the school will continue to attract outstanding students from all sec schools to its campus.
Can share
why your 2023 JC2 daughter has chosen to come to Nanyang JC,
and not
Hwa Chong or RI, when her nett L1R5 (O-level) easily could have led her to enter into either Hwa Chong / RI admission ? How does your daughter find Nanyang JC, so far ? -
phtthp\" post_id=\"2098553\" time=\"1676991139\" user_id=\"35251:
My DD1 has been balloted out of RI. She chose RI as her 1st choice the as she reckoned that RI has better pool of resources where she can tap for her subjects combi.
Kimkar,
Can share
why your 2023 JC2 daughter has chosen to come to Nanyang JC,
and not
Hwa Chong or RI, when her nett L1R5 (O-level) easily could have led her to enter into either Hwa Chong / RI admission ? How does your daughter find Nanyang JC, so far ?
Nevertheless, NY ranked in 2nd in her choice as it is near our house, with direct bus or mrt access. The dress-down days and 8.30am reporting time are some of the other draws. She also heard that NYJC has well established Math and Chem.dept. She was won over after her first week orientation in NY. So it doesn't really matter even if NYJC is not her 1st choice.
Like many other JC students or NYcians, she has her struggles in her J1 as she has to juggle with her sport CCA practices, her leadership role, and to balance with the mini quizzes, weekly tests and getting used to the standard of papers in JC, etc. .But she told me the teachers are very helpelful. The consultations really help to clear doubts and she even dropped her Chem tuition at the beginning of J1 (till now). Despite the high standards of papers set, she is able to navigate thru and slowly gain better footing in most of her subjects, of course, with the help of her teachers besides her hard work. I think this part is very instrumental as to why NYJC is able to attract lower COP students to join them year after year.
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