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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • 00skyblue000 Offline
      00skyblue00
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      MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2120972\" time=\"1697676483\" user_id=\"2964:

      30 years ago, when we needed only 3 A-level subjects for university admission, many were taking 4 A-level subjects. Today, even though they only need 3H2+1H1, many are still taking 4H2. And also today, even though only 6 O-level subjects are needed for JC admission, many are taking 8.

      So I think come 2024 JC1, when only 3 H2 are needed for 2026 university admission, there will still be many who will take 4 H2.
      Is it true that if student only has one elective humanities (triple sci) eg. SS +Geo, student can only take H1 Geo in JC. To take H2 Geo, one must have pure Geo in O level? Does this affect JC selection?

      Where can I refer to on the above?

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        Does anyone have the computation formula? At which point eg ABB or ABC and below will the 4th subj scores be more significant? Or at which the 4th subj eg A or B would it be useful to improve the RP?

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        • doodbugD Offline
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          00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2120979\" time=\"1697683046\" user_id=\"143605:

          Is it true that if student only has one elective humanities (triple sci) eg. SS +Geo, student can only take H1 Geo in JC. To take H2 Geo, one must have pure Geo in O level? Does this affect JC selection?

          Where can I refer to on the above?
          As far as I am aware, there is no prerequisite requirement to have done upper Sec Literature or History, to read the corresponding subjects at H2 level. Subjects like China Studies in English, also do not have a prerequisite. Neither does Computing, though some schools administer an entry test. I am not sure about Geog - do check with the JC involved? I would be surprised if upper Secondary Geog is a prerequisite. To do Geog at NUS has no prerequisites at all, not even secondary school Geog.

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            00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2120980\" time=\"1697683412\" user_id=\"143605:

            Does anyone have the computation formula? At which point eg ABB or ABC and below will the 4th subj scores be more significant? Or at which the 4th subj eg A or B would it be useful to improve the RP?
            Done a back of the envelope calculation before , to gauge under what scenario the 4th subject can improve the RP score. It’s when the 4th subject grade is better than the averages of the 3 compulsory subjects. If it’s a BBB, an A in 4th subject will improve the RP. a B or less will not improve the RP. If ABB, a B in 4th subject will not improve RP. An A will improve RP.

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            • sharonkhooS Offline
              sharonkhoo
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              00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2120980\" time=\"1697683412\" user_id=\"143605:

              Does anyone have the computation formula? At which point eg ABB or ABC and below will the 4th subj scores be more significant? Or at which the 4th subj eg A or B would it be useful to improve the RP?
              It hasn't been released yet, as far as I know.

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              • sharonkhooS Offline
                sharonkhoo
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                00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2120967\" time=\"1697671139\" user_id=\"143605:

                From 2026 onwards, UAS computation will max at 70. So how does this change translate to 4th subj in A levels? Any adv to take it in H2 over H1?

                Students in top JCs will still be taking 4 H2?
                It depends on the student. Some will choose to take the minimum so they have more time for each subject (or to have time for other things besides studying). Some will choose to take more simply because they are enthusiastic about learning, and are fairly confident they can manage it. Some will prefer to have a 4th subject, just in case!

                There are students who take H3 as well, just because they want to, even if it doesn't really help them get into university.

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                • 00skyblue000 Offline
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                  Arigato, muchas gracias

                  bbbay\" post_id=\"2120983\" time=\"1697685130\" user_id=\"175278:
                  Done a back of the envelope calculation before , to gauge under what scenario the 4th subject can improve the RP score. It’s when the 4th subject grade is better than the averages of the 3 compulsory subjects. If it’s a BBB, an A in 4th subject will improve the RP. a B or less will not improve the RP. If ABB, a B in 4th subject will not improve RP. An A will improve RP.

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                  • 00skyblue000 Offline
                    00skyblue00
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                    doodbug\" post_id=\"2120981\" time=\"1697683508\" user_id=\"13281:

                    As far as I am aware, there is no prerequisite requirement to have done upper Sec Literature or History, to read the corresponding subjects at H2 level. Subjects like China Studies in English, also do not have a prerequisite. Neither does Computing, though some schools administer an entry test. I am not sure about Geog - do check with the JC involved? I would be surprised if upper Secondary Geog is a prerequisite. To do Geog at NUS has no prerequisites at all, not even secondary school Geog.
                    We thought so too. But come to think of it, there were discussions previously abt sch only offered combined sci as kid may not qualify pure sci, so the same may apply to pure humanities vs elective. Or it could be different for humanities?
                    Unlikely my kid will change her mind, still proceed with triple sci with only one SS+elect human.
                    For those kids who get 6 - 4, and get into RI or HCI, if sch only offer h2 subjects, don't think students have the choice? Not sure how it will work.

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                      00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2120979\" time=\"1697683046\" user_id=\"143605:

                      Is it true that if student only has one elective humanities (triple sci) eg. SS +Geo, student can only take H1 Geo in JC. To take H2 Geo, one must have pure Geo in O level? Does this affect JC selection?

                      Where can I refer to on the above?
                      The pre-requistes differ from.JC.
                      Just go into individual JC website, to check
                      Eg.

                      1)
                      To take H2 Literature, some strict JCs impose a minimum score of at least a \"B3\" in your English (O level. Otherwise, u can't take A level Literature.

                      2) not everyone can take 4 H2 subjects in JC1, just because they desire to. Depend on what is your original O level L1R5 raw score / nett score.

                      In some JCs, they are strict.
                      If your original L1R5 score did not meet a certain criteria,
                      then,
                      u are allowed to take only 3 H2 but not 4 H2 subjects, in your JC1 first year. Go read the pre-requistes, inside the individual Junior College website.

                      3) you asked, can u still do / continue with 4H2 subjects, in JC2 ?

                      That depends!

                      They will look at your end of year JC1 results. If they think u can't cope, some strict JCs will request that u drop to taking 3 H2 subjects in JC2, even though u did take 4H2 subjects in JC1, first year.

                      4) for certain subjects like Computer Science (JC1), for instance, JCs will ask u to take diagnostic tests first.
                      If u fail their entrance test,
                      then

                      cannot take Computer Science.

                      Another subject behaving like this include Further Maths (A-level) diagnostic test, in certain JCs.

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                      • bbbayB Offline
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                        00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2121055\" time=\"1697742338\" user_id=\"143605:


                        For those kids who get 6 - 4, and get into RI or HCI, if sch only offer h2 subjects, don't think students have the choice? Not sure how it will work.
                        I presume you mean have the choice not to do H2 and go for H1 instead. My understanding is the default arrangement come J2 is to chose 1 subject to drop to H1 from among the 4 H2 subjects from J1. So it is not all 4 subjects will be tested at H2 level during the end point A level exam. A teacher from 1 of these schools remarked, students joining the school should know what they are signing up for. The thinking could be if you chose these 2 schools, then be prepared to be stretched. Taking all at H2 level in J1 could be a way of stretching the students. But come the A exam that matter most, it will be reverted back to norm with 1 subject drop to H1. Unless students chose to continue all 4 at H2.

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