2023 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2011)
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00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2124054\" time=\"1701255002\" user_id=\"143605:
One, I'm not asking MOE to explain anything. Two, I think you usually have many good things to say, and should believe whatever you want to believe.
We know, not all awarded ESIS will choose independent schools. Are u asking why only AL4-5 are awarded ESIS but not AL6? Why do you think AL6 should get esis? Moe cannot have their discretion? Or are u asking MOE to explain their rationale. I doubt anyone can give a convincing reply here.
I do believe, these numbers have some rationale. Could be statistically AL-5 are those more likely to continue outshine others up till A levels. Many kids change once in sec, whether IP or O. Hence moe also award top 5% for those done well in O levels. Likely this second group has also proven historically.
The game has changed in new AL banding, moe can choose to be stingy for the pri sch top kids coz many practically their parents or tutors studying for psle, kids just comply. Could be. No one knows for sure, except MOE.
Frankly, I think the chance that at AL6 stops at 3% and AL9 stops at 10% is essentially zero. But it doesn't really matter, and now I remember why I left and have refrained from many of the discussions like this in recent times (in the past, problems were partly my own fault).
Anyways, have a good night and best of luck to anyone that is waiting for the posting results. -
May I know for esis AL5, what T Score does it corresponds to in the old days? And what about AL4 too?
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May I know for esis AL5, what T Score does it corresponds to in the old days? And what about AL4 too?
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enivi\" post_id=\"2124077\" time=\"1701330534\" user_id=\"40961:
For our intellectual entertainment: These are put together from my old data collections. I only pick a few sample points to show here, to provide some indication. These are T scores mapped to indicative AL score published prior the first AL graded PSLE exam. My opinion is we should not expect precise , clear cut and fixed T score boundaries in the AL bands. We should expect a little over lapping, and deviation too assuming it is done yearly, because of the natural of AL banding.
May I know for esis AL5, what T Score does it corresponds to in the old days? And what about AL4 too?
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enivi\" post_id=\"2124077\" time=\"1701330534\" user_id=\"40961:
Historical EESIS/ESIS COP
May I know for esis AL5, what T Score does it corresponds to in the old days? And what about AL4 too?
Year in P6
2022 - AL5
2021 - AL5
2020 - 261
2019 - 261
2018 - 260
2017 - 262
2016 - 262
2015 - 262
2014 - 258
2013 - 258
2012 - 262
2011 - 260
2010 - 260
2009 - 261
2008 - 263
2007 - 264
2006 - 262
In this context, AL 5 is roughly equivalent to a T-Score of 261±3. -
I recall (and some parents have also mentioned it too), one of the possible reasons for the inconsistency when mapping T score to AL score could be due to higher Chinese grades. In T score days, it was + 3, + 2 or + 1 for distinction, merit and pass in higher Chinese. For 2 students, 1 with a distinction in HCL would have gotten 260+ 3= 263, and other student without HCL will be 260. In current AL banding , both of them are in AL6 (or 5). So we are seeing AL6(or 5) mapped to 260 and 263.
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koudayao27\" post_id=\"2124084\" time=\"1701336354\" user_id=\"199369:
May I ask these are compiled from official source?
Historical EESIS/ESIS COP
Year in P6
2022 - AL5
2021 - AL5
2020 - 261
2019 - 261
2018 - 260
2017 - 262
2016 - 262
2015 - 262
2014 - 258
2013 - 258
2012 - 262
2011 - 260
2010 - 260
2009 - 261
2008 - 263
2007 - 264
2006 - 262
In this context, AL 5 is roughly equivalent to a T-Score of 261±3. -
bbbay\" post_id=\"2124086\" time=\"1701336910\" user_id=\"175278:
For ESIS, T score was not including HCL contribution, just 4 PSLE subjects.
I recall (and some parents have also mentioned it too), one of the possible reasons for the inconsistency when mapping T score to AL score could be due to higher Chinese grades. In T score days, it was + 3, + 2 or + 1 for distinction, merit and pass in higher Chinese. For 2 students, 1 with a distinction in HCL would have gotten 260+ 3= 263, and other student without HCL will be 260. In current AL banding , both of them are in AL6 (or 5). So we are seeing AL6(or 5) mapped to 260 and 263. -
Imp75\" post_id=\"2124090\" time=\"1701340838\" user_id=\"2358:
Noted. T score to AL score mapping exercise done by MOE back then should include HCL points too, as shown on school finder? I was pondering that exercise , not so much on ESIS matter
For ESIS, T score was not including HCL contribution, just 4 PSLE subjects. -
bbbay\" post_id=\"2124095\" time=\"1701342806\" user_id=\"175278:
Oh ok, got your point. Yes on Sch finder, it’s inclusive of HMT for SAP schools. Not sure how MOE mapped them to AL though.
Noted. T score to AL score mapping exercise done by MOE back then should include HCL points too, as shown on school finder? I was pondering that exercise , not so much on ESIS matter
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