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    • P Offline
      pirate
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      ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2132394\" time=\"1712742403\" user_id=\"3:

      6 years... come on... you are still a toddler. You don't see toddlers speaking perfect English... right? 😂
      No lah. 6 years old toddler still better than me lah. Actually, I suspect native speaker 6 years old toddler better than H2 L3, at least in oral and listening comprehension. 🦆

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      • Coolkidsrock2C Offline
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        lee_yl\" post_id=\"2132401\" time=\"1712747234\" user_id=\"17023:

        Yes, when I signed up DD for L3, the thought of sending her to a non-English speaking country Uni did not cross my mind.

        It is the same as learning Home Econs lessons. not aiming to be a Michelin-starred chef, but rather it indirectly taught our kids not to be afraid to venture into the kitchen to cook something, it’s a life skill.

        In the ST article, Mr Hannan Hazlan shared that he wanted to go Germany but not sure how tough is learning German. Many of us know the Uni is free (or cheap) for Germany/Japan/France but had more students being exposed to L3, even for just a 1yr, maybe useful in encouraging more to explore a path less travelled
        With NTU and NUS ranked so high, there is little or no motivation for parents / kids to study overseas, even if there is scholarship and a job thereafter - this is what I gathered from conversations with friends and their kids.

        Even my DS also will not entertain me about studying overseas and quickly sealed his offer before I come home from work.

        https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/nus-and-ntu-top-asian-universities-in-subject-rankings-again

        https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/nri/study/course-correction-not-uk-us-but-more-indian-students-are-heading-to-these-off-beat-locations/amp_articleshow/107862129.cms

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        • zac's mumZ Offline
          zac's mum
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          In Korean, “kamsa hamnida” is also very similar to kam sia 😂

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          • 00skyblue000 Offline
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            Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2132405\" time=\"1712749537\" user_id=\"48901:

            With NTU and NUS ranked so high, there is little or no motivation for parents / kids to study overseas, even if there is scholarship and a job thereafter - this is what I gathered from conversations with friends and their kids.

            Even my DS also will not entertain me about studying overseas and quickly sealed his offer before I come home from work.

            https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/nus-and-ntu-top-asian-universities-in-subject-rankings-again

            https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/nri/study/course-correction-not-uk-us-but-more-indian-students-are-heading-to-these-off-beat-locations/amp_articleshow/107862129.cms
            Alternative opinion on ranking of universities,

            https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/why-university-rankings-are-pointless-exercises-for-students-in-singapore

            Quality of teaching vs research...

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            • lee_ylL Offline
              lee_yl
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              Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2132405\" time=\"1712749537\" user_id=\"48901:

              With NTU and NUS ranked so high, there is little or no motivation for parents / kids to study overseas, even if there is scholarship and a job thereafter - this is what I gathered from conversations with friends and their kids.

              Even my DS also will not entertain me about studying overseas and quickly sealed his offer before I come home from work.

              https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/nus-and-ntu-top-asian-universities-in-subject-rankings-again

              https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/nri/study/course-correction-not-uk-us-but-more-indian-students-are-heading-to-these-off-beat-locations/amp_articleshow/107862129.cms
              My children will tell me staying overseas because Singapore is soooo small, so stressful, it’s for the experience, for the exposure etc. lol.

              In the ST article, one shared that he was fascinated with cars so he would like to work for BMW or Volkswagen after graduating from Germany.

              Nowadays hardly hear anyone going overseas for Accountancy, unlike decades ago. Among my friends’ kids who studied overseas, mostly went overseas for studies in Law and Med.

              Oh btw, NTU ranking is rising fast and furious but when I look at the salary.com report, out of TOP 20 earners, 18 spots went to NUS and SMU grads, only 2 went to NTU grads. If given the chance to study in both, wonder which should one pick, SMU or NTU. Hmmmm..

              https://www.salary.sg/2024/graduate-employment-survey-2023-published-2024/

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              • Coolkidsrock2C Offline
                Coolkidsrock2
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                lee_yl\" post_id=\"2132410\" time=\"1712754133\" user_id=\"17023:

                My children will tell me staying overseas because Singapore is soooo small, so stressful, it’s for the experience, for the exposure etc. lol.

                In the ST article, one shared that he was fascinated with cars so he would like to work for BMW or Volkswagen after graduating from Germany.

                Nowadays hardly hear anyone going overseas for Accountancy, unlike decades ago. Among my friends’ kids who studied overseas, mostly went overseas for studies in Law and Med.

                Oh btw, NTU ranking is rising fast and furious but when I look at the salary.com report, out of TOP 20 earners, 18 spots went to NUS and SMU grads, only 2 went to NTU grads. If given the chance to study in both, wonder which should one pick, SMU or NTU. Hmmmm..

                https://www.salary.sg/2024/graduate-employment-survey-2023-published-2024/
                DS accepted NUS though I would prefer him to go to SMU. Reason for our preference is personality fit - he is more introverted, while I would like him to develop a wider comfort zone.

                Studying overseas is stressful too - highly competitive as everybody is aiming for First Class with Recommendation or to be the top student. Majority continued with post-graduate studies.

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                • doodbugD Offline
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                  Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2132405\" time=\"1712749537\" user_id=\"48901:

                  With NTU and NUS ranked so high, there is little or no motivation for parents / kids to study overseas, even if there is scholarship and a job thereafter - this is what I gathered from conversations with friends and their kids.

                  Even my DS also will not entertain me about studying overseas and quickly sealed his offer before I come home from work.

                  https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/nus-and-ntu-top-asian-universities-in-subject-rankings-again

                  https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/nri/study/course-correction-not-uk-us-but-more-indian-students-are-heading-to-these-off-beat-locations/amp_articleshow/107862129.cms
                  My elder child's experience - nearly none of his friends are keen to study overseas. Several reasons - many of the US and UK universities have or are in the midst of releasing admission results - many were surprised that they didn't receive the offers they had hoped for. Secondly, many are comfortable staying in local universities, and prefer the flexibility of not taking up a bonded scholarship for overseas studies. Thirdly, studying in Singapore is simply the path of least resistance, as in, least uncomfortable path. Studying overseas always entails some level of missing the comforts and convenience of home.

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                  • bbbayB Offline
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                    My ex colleague trying to sell me that studying in US has one thing not found (or not as entrenched) in local Unis , is that US Uni system more likely to produce original/independent thinkers. When student give an answer, the teaching staff will ask for the reasoning behind the answers. They value students’ reasoning too, not only solely “correct answers”. I am sold, so far only with this reason, to choose US over local Unis

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                    • Coolkidsrock2C Offline
                      Coolkidsrock2
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                      bbbay\" post_id=\"2132416\" time=\"1712758671\" user_id=\"175278:

                      My ex colleague trying to sell me that studying in US has one thing not found (or not as entrenched) in local Unis , is that US Uni system more likely to produce original/independent thinkers. When student give an answer, the teaching staff will ask for the reasoning behind the answers. They value students’ reasoning too, not only solely “correct answers”. I am sold, so far only with this reason, to choose US over local Unis
                      Am a little bit worried that my kids will come back and tell me that do not want to work till \"discover purpose in life\" - happened to people I know.

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                      • doodbugD Offline
                        doodbug
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                        Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2132417\" time=\"1712760124\" user_id=\"48901:

                        Am a little bit worried that my kids will come back and tell me that do not want to work till \"discover purpose in life\" - happened to people I know.
                        Err this one, regardless where one studies also there isnt guaranteed immunity against it.

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