Q&A - P4 English

[starlight1968sg]

elkniwt:

Hi,


Need advices on the following two questions :

Q1) The two of us can discuss the points with ________________
(My dd chose each other but the answer given is one another. I feel that the ans key is wrong. Shouldn't one another be for more than 2 people?? Advices pls.)

Q2) _______ is the cat ______ stole my fish. Let's get hold of it.
The ans is This .... that. Need help to understand why it couldn't be That ..... that.

Thanks.

I try to answer Q2.
\"This\" refers to something that is closer or nearer to the speaker.
\"That\" refers to something that is further away from the speaker.

I think there is really nothing wrong with That... That when a speaker is pointing a car further away and it stole my fish.

Due to the statement \"Let's get hold it\", it seems the cat is closer to the speaker and thus, maybe This... that seems a better choice.
:oops:

[The Alternative Story]

elkniwt:

Hi,


Need advices on the following two questions :

Q1) The two of us can discuss the points with ________________
(My dd chose each other but the answer given is one another. I feel that the ans key is wrong. Shouldn't one another be for more than 2 people?? Advices pls.)

Q2) _______ is the cat ______ stole my fish. Let's get hold of it.
The ans is This .... that. Need help to understand why it couldn't be That ..... that.

Thanks.

Hi elkniwt,

For qn 1, you are right, the answer should be 'each other' as
there are 2 people in the sentence. 'One another' should be
used when there are more than 2 people.

For qn 2, starlight was right, the answer can actually be both
'this cat' or 'that cat' as there is not enough information
provided to make a clear deduction if the cat was nearby or
further away. However, 'Let's get hold of it' seems to imply
that the cat is nearby and hence 'this' seems a better answer.

TAS

[elkniwt]

Dear TAS & starlight,


Thank you so much for your explanations!! Really appreciate your help.

:thankyou:

Regards.

[jeestan]

Hi,


I need some help here, does comprehension cloze (those without helping words) come out in primary 3? I saw that some schools have comprehension cloze even for primary 3. It is one of the most difficult sections to master, does anyone know how to teach this section? :?

[rains]

hi jeestan,


Some schools have compre cloze becos they feel that the children are able to handle it or they want to expose their children to it. Other schools leave out this section becos the children are generally weaker.

There isn’t an ideal way to teach this section becos it depends on the child’s exposure to vocabulary, which boils down to the amount of reading the child does on his own. At best, you guess the answers from the contextual clues in the sentences.

[jeestan]

Hi rains,


Thanks for your reply..sigh..looks like it is quite difficult to teach this part how about vocab, I also find it hard to teach.. how to remember all the words

[shirley.020816tamzil]

Will doing more of the comprehension cloze exercises help?


DS is really poor in this and I don't know of any other ways to 'drill' :?:

[livewith_vanilla]

shirley.tamzil:

Will doing more of the comprehension cloze exercises help?


DS is really poor in this and I don't know of any other ways to 'drill' :?:

Comprehension cloze is the passage or the \"fill in the blanks with no helping words\" one?

Sorry i very blur.If its the second one, then one way is to get him to read more books, expose him to a variety of books- classics, non-fiction etc.

[jeestan]

shirley.tamzil:

Will doing more of the comprehension cloze exercises help?


DS is really poor in this and I don't know of any other ways to 'drill' :?:

Ya, I tried doing lots of exercises but it does not seem to help much cos the
passages keep changing and the words are always different..thats why I find it so difficult to teach..dont know if there is any tuition centre that does specific teaching on this, in school, they just do it the same way I do..

[rains]

Doing more of comprehension cloze or comprehension open-ended will not help. The only thing ‘doing more’ can help is the way to start an answer eg. Which word tells you that …? 'The word is …" Other than that, ‘doing more’ does not help to comprehend the content (Open-ended) or grasp the contextual cues (cloze).


The only way is to tempt the child to read.

My child loves to read since end of her K2 and I find that I don’t have to worry a day about her comprehension open-ended, and now that she’s in P4, I find that I don’t worry about her comprehension cloze either. It’s really about your exposure to the range of vocabulary and structures. Some words simply go with some other eg. hit it to a pulp, and there is no other way to go about it. At other times, you need to infer from the clues given to you to get the word, but with little reading done on your own, you will not be able to even tell that a particular word is a clue.