What happens to students that don't do well in IP schools?

[Faun]

jtoh:

CoffeeCat:

[quote=\"father_of_3\"]There was one RGS who took 'O' level - Quah Ting Wen. But she took it so that she enrol in US uni.


In papers, it mentioned that some IP students dropped out and switch to poly.

I believe most of them are doing very well and instead chose to go poly after knowing what their interests lie in.

That is why I am against going to specialty schools in secondary school, like SOTA and NUSH. At 12, a child may think that he loves Math and Science or that she could spend the rest of her life playing music or dancing and would want to pursue a career in those fields. But as they grow older, espcially during their teenage years, their interests may change and their
studies have already pointed them in one direction. A broad-based education is still best at secondary school.[/quote]
I beg to differ, don't know about NUSH, but specialized independent schools are exactly the place that provides broad based education. Many parents think that SOTA is a vocational institution but it's actually a place that provides a more holistic education. They do what all the other mainstream children do, learning the whole works and subjects but instead of CCA, they
just replaced that with focus on an art form.

At the end of the day, only a small percentage of SOTA kids will become professional dancer, musician or artist. Some will be like any mainstreamers, become teachers, doctors, engineers, etc.. However, these kids from SOTA will be different, other than having only the off-the-mill education, they have developed much creativity and many other thinking skills which the mainstreamers don't get a chance to develop.

Hence, a child at the age of 12, I agree, may not know for sure that she wants to be a dancer but at that present time, that's what she thinks she wants to slog for because she's so passionate about it. That doesn't mean her fate is sealed. She's still on the university track and she can turn anytime she wants.

Our government has realized that we cannot to have our education continue to be like a factory producing adults with the same old system for donkey years. We need people who can think out of the box. If our kids
only know how to do ten-years series and pass years papers and be exam
smart, how to survive in the new world?

I think parents with talented kids should let their kids try the specialized
independent schools. It's very very hard to get in by the way and these kids are a privileged lot with a lot of support by the government. Finding out ones talent and passion is also an education itself. The kids who go to such school are very special, they make a conscious choice and sacrifices to be where they want to be but I must say, they are a happy lot. That's why places like the Sports School and SOTA are so vibrant. As parents we
should help our children in self-discovery and not make them live our fears.

By the way, I don't have any kids in SOTA. I've attended their symposium, I've a kid in the Sports School. I think the 2 schools are doing a great job. Their mission is to help the kids realized their potential in their talent as they study their subjects. Both schools do International Baccalaureate
which is after all a program which the A levels is trying to model after some years ago.

For the Sports School, the kids are moving along as expected, some has commited more years into sports, some have gone poly, some go jC and some already in the local Us. See my point?


The reward is in the journey....

[Faun]

Just to add,


making conscious decision and taking the consequences, making mistakes and having to retry is also an education itself.

There’s no shame if a child make a decision and change her mind later. In fact we should be proud that she has the courage to do so.

The best years for self discovery is in their teens. How many adults have a chance to live their dream, if they have one at all…

[justsay]

Faun:

making conscious decision and taking the consequences, making mistakes and having to retry is also an education itself.

There's no shame if a child make a decision and change her mind later. In fact we should be proud that she has the courage to do so.

The best years for self discovery is in their teens. How many adults have a chance to live their dream, if they have one at all...

:goodpost:

[dasalo]

Faun:

I beg to differ,independent schools are exactly the place that provides broad based education. SOTA is actually a place that provides a more holistic education. They do what all the other mainstream children do, learning the whole works and subjects but instead of CCA, they
just replaced that with focus on an art form.

At the end of the day, only a small percentage of SOTA kids will become professional dancer, musician or artist. Some will be like any mainstreamers, become teachers, doctors, engineers, etc.. However, these kids from SOTA will be different, other than having only the off-the-mill education, they have developed much creativity and many other thinking skills which the mainstreamers don't get a chance to develop.

That doesn't mean her fate is sealed. She's still on the university track and she can turn anytime she wants.

Our government has realized that we cannot to have our education continue to be like a factory producing adults with the same old system for donkey years. We need people who can think out of the box. If our kids only know how to do ten-years series and pass years papers and be exam smart, how to survive in the new world?

The kids who go to such school are very special, they make a conscious choice and sacrifices to be where they want to be but I must say, they are a happy lot. That's why places like the Sports School and SOTA are so vibrant. As parents we
should help our children in self-discovery and not make them live our fears.

Both schools do International Baccalaureate which is after all a program which the A levels is trying to model after some years ago.

For the Sports School, the kids are moving along as expected, some has commited more years into sports, some have gone poly, some go jC and some already in the local Us. See my point?

The reward is in the journey....

Agree. OK, I'm bias cos I have kids in SOTA.

Has the Sport School gone IB? I thought they were IP? I don't remember hearing from my nephew?

update: IB syllabus starts beginning of this year

[Fairy]

24by7mum:

daisyt:

Different school adapt different ways. Some have a O level class. Some would retain students. Some would get the students to transfer out.


Which school in particular are you looking at?

Thanks! My sis in law is looking at either Nanyang Girls or RGS. Appreciate your input. Thanks

Hi,
at RI, if the student cannot meet the minimum expectation, they will be advised to transfer to another school more suited to their ability - this is the actual words from the school.

Heard that the school's going to revise the minimum grade for promotion to Year 5 upwards. Though the school achieved sterling results last year, there is a group of students who fell through the gap.

Not sure about NYGH or RGS. But RGS' system should be the similar to RI's.

[parentof3]

I know of a NS boy who is a IP dropout from HCI. He went on to take O level in HCI and still managed to stay in HCI for A level. He mentioned that every year about 20 students will form a O level class because they can’t cope with the programme. Some of his classmates went to other JCs after their O levels. However his A level result not so good.

[phtthp]

someone:

HCI principal said in this year's Open House that there is a class of (14-15, I can't remember the exact figure) O level students in HCI. I don't recall him mentioning what will happen to this class after O levels though.

Yes, is called SIP class, in Hwa Chong, where IP students take O-level exam, due to difficulty encountered, handling IP

[jtoh]

Why are we digging up dormant threads from 8 years ago?

[floppy]

jtoh:

Why are we digging up dormant threads from 8 years ago?

It’s “back to the future day”.

There’s even a thread from 9 years ago being raised from the dead :yikes:

[phtthp]

jtoh:

Why are we digging up dormant threads from 8 years ago?

reviving a dead thread today, because the subject matter is still relevant & valid, in today's context.

is IP still relevant today, or is IP dead, and all the IP schools shut down, completed closed ?

so, can we still talk about IP that is still kicking alive today ? IP was here in the past. IP is still alive today, IP still alive tomorrow, still alive in the future for our grand-children, plus further generation.

So, can one discuss IP ?
of course, can !