All About GEP

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sakura_2009:

jtoh:

The numbers were revised recently. Prior to 2008, the number making it to Round 2 was 3,000. Which makes it about 7%, depending on the size of the cohort that year. Of that, about 500 make it through to GEP.

In the last couple of years they've increased the number making it to the second round to about 4000.

Just wondering why the numbers are increasing? Afterall only around 500 students will eventually make it for the GEP program right?

Am also wondering why the need for the screening test in the first place? Why not make the students take the 2nd test directly and eliminate the hassle of the screening test? Just my own thoughts coz it seems that every P3 kid I know seems to be qualified for the 2nd round :?

Do not know how true.
Apparently, MOE keep tab on those that qualified for 2nd round.
In GEP School, these group will be use to do \"twinning\" program with the GEP students.

[kiasuson]

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sakura_2009:

[quote=\"jtoh\"]
The numbers were revised recently. Prior to 2008, the number making it to Round 2 was 3,000. Which makes it about 7%, depending on the size of the cohort that year. Of that, about 500 make it through to GEP.

In the last couple of years they've increased the number making it to the second round to about 4000.

Just wondering why the numbers are increasing? Afterall only around 500 students will eventually make it for the GEP program right?

Am also wondering why the need for the screening test in the first place? Why not make the students take the 2nd test directly and eliminate the hassle of the screening test? Just my own thoughts coz it seems that every P3 kid I know seems to be qualified for the 2nd round :?

Do not know how true.
Apparently, MOE keep tab on those that qualified for 2nd round.
In GEP School, these group will be use to do \"twinning\" program with the GEP students.[/quote]What happen to those that are not in the GEP schools? I believe it is the GEP school who give priority to their students that have qualified for second round.

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kiasuson:

Trapwithin:

[quote=\"sakura_2009\"]
Just wondering why the numbers are increasing? Afterall only around 500 students will eventually make it for the GEP program right?

Am also wondering why the need for the screening test in the first place? Why not make the students take the 2nd test directly and eliminate the hassle of the screening test? Just my own thoughts coz it seems that every P3 kid I know seems to be qualified for the 2nd round :?

Do not know how true.
Apparently, MOE keep tab on those that qualified for 2nd round.
In GEP School, these group will be use to do \"twinning\" program with the GEP students.

What happen to those that are not in the GEP schools? I believe it is the GEP school who give priority to their students that have qualified for second round.[/quote]Not too sure again ...
Apparently, they will be place in the top few classes of their current school

[Powermum]

Just to clarify some issues:-


My DD is currently in GEP programme..


1) Not sure if 'giftedness' can be trained. My DD's primary 3 class (supposedly good class) had almost all children sent for 'GEP' training (my DD did not cos I have no $ and dont see the need to) but in the end only 6/42 made it.

2) First round think 8-10% of cohort, 2nd round - 1% 500+ children. More than half boys for specific reasons.

3) No comments for round 1 from her cos I didnt know when it was.. Round 2 went like this ' English very difficult (common feedback among peers who sat for it) Mathematics very easy (uncommon feedback from peers) GA very easy (uncommon feedback from peers)..

4) My DD love shapes, sudoku (difficulty level 5), chess and anything maths (you may think it's crazy, now she actually loves olympiad math- To be fair, I am nuts at math, i cant even handle P3 math)

Let's the children enjoy what they do.... shower them with love and concern :love:

[sakura_2009]

Trapwithin:

Not too sure again ...
Apparently, they will be place in the top few classes of their current school

As far as I'm aware, for students who qualify for the 2nd round, most of them would have already been in the top classes in their respective schools, isn't it?

[TwaTau]

Powermum:

Just to clarify some issues:-


My DD is currently in GEP programme..


1) Not sure if 'giftedness' can be trained. My DD's primary 3 class (supposedly good class) had almost all children sent for 'GEP' training (my DD did not cos I have no $ and dont see the need to) but in the end only 6/42 made it.

2) First round think 8-10% of cohort, 2nd round - 1% 500+ children. More than half boys for specific reasons.

3) No comments for round 1 from her cos I didnt know when it was.. Round 2 went like this ' English very difficult (common feedback among peers who sat for it) Mathematics very easy (uncommon feedback from peers) GA very easy (uncommon feedback from peers)..

4) My DD love shapes, sudoku (difficulty level 5), chess and anything maths (you may think it's crazy, now she actually loves olympiad math- To be fair, I am nuts at math, i cant even handle P3 math)

Let's the children enjoy what they do.... shower them with love and concern :love:

:goodpost: Gifted are born, can means can! You maybe able to squeeze your kids into the programme now, but you will need to maintain them there with more training and more tuitions, and less time for the kids to develop themselves in other aspect. :celebrate:

[INNOVATE]

With the introduction of IP, personally feel that gifted programme should be scrapped. Each year many PSLE top scorers were from main stream with a fair number from neighbourhood schools.


Anyway, top performers will have many opportunities to attend special trainings as they embark on their journey in high schools.

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There is no need to be disappointed if your kids could’t get into the gifted programme. Personally don’t understand why parents send a small fortune to have their kids enroll in special programme prior to GEP screening tests.


Is as if gifted can be trained!

[naggo-nitemare]

INNOVATE:

With the introduction of IP, personally feel that gifted programme should be scrapped. Each year many PSLE top scorers were from main stream with a fair number from neighbourhood schools.


Anyway, top performers will have many opportunities to attend special trainings as they embark on their journey in high schools.

This has been discussed before a few times. PSLE is NOT a gauge of giftedness. Take for eg this yr's maths paper. Many will hv high scores because of it is relatively easy but it does not mean the high scorers are gifted in maths. If my DS were to remain in the mainstream, he would hv been bored stiff with the mainstream curriculum as the aim is to prepare the mainstream to do well in such a PSLE maths exam. In GEP, he enjoys the depth and pace of the maths curriculum.

Many mainstreamers whether from neighbourhood sch or otherwise do well in psle because they hv been preparing for this psle grand finale since p4. GEP curriculum is much more than just aiming to be 'top scorer' in PSLE , w/c tests largely exam-smartness. If PSLE is designed to be a accurate reflection of giftedness, all the exam papers will be much harder, with many twists. Straightforward qns will be a rarity if this the case.

[jtoh]

naggo-nitemare:

INNOVATE:

With the introduction of IP, personally feel that gifted programme should be scrapped. Each year many PSLE top scorers were from main stream with a fair number from neighbourhood schools.


Anyway, top performers will have many opportunities to attend special trainings as they embark on their journey in high schools.

This has been discussed before a few times. PSLE is NOT a gauge of giftedness. Take for eg this yr's maths paper. Many will hv high scores because of it is relatively easy but it does not mean the high scorers are gifted in maths. If my DS were to remain in the mainstream, he would hv been bored stiff with the mainstream curriculum as the aim is to prepare the mainstream to do well in such a PSLE maths exam. In GEP, he enjoys the depth and pace of the maths curriculum.

Many mainstreamers whether from neighbourhood sch or otherwise do well in psle because they hv been preparing for this psle grand finale since p4. GEP curriculum is much more than just aiming to be 'top scorer' in PSLE , w/c tests largely exam-smartness. If PSLE is designed to be a accurate reflection of giftedness, all the exam papers will be much harder, with many twists. Straightforward qns will be a rarity if this the case.

I agree. Excelling in PSLE does not mean you're intellectually gifted. The GEP curriculum does not prepare one to excel at PSLE. The aim is a lot more long term than that. It aims to develop the thinker, to delve deeper and broader into subjects which are within and out of syllabus.